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Personally, my biggest qualm with many members on this forum is the fact that so many people are dedicated to vaping and dedicated to the industry that many members just don't seem open minded at all to the fact that a lot of lesser grade products in the field do seem to have the tendency to not work properly, and refuse to educate new members as to why this really is, or stand behind the people in the industry who call for vendors not to sell these products or at least mark them down to a reasonable price that could allow even the poorest vaper to take a chance at getting a working vape.

I'm not just posting this as what I've experienced, but what I see on threads every day of the attitudes and quotes that some of these members post on many threads of newer users. I think a lot of people here forget that vaping is about the vaper, and not about if a business or company that makes faulty products continues to thrive. Not every vendor has to succeed in order for vaping to gain in popularity and success, and it's actually quite the opposite - any product that's known to not work right should have enough negative feedback to cause vendors to care about their customers and pull the products off the market or put them on clearance, with big banners that say "We're selling this clearomizer for $1 because 9 out of 10 heads seem to be faulty - take your chance."

It doesn't take much money for a vendor at least make back what they spent if a product line does fail, yet greediness can consume even the best of suppliers. If there are products out there that don't have good production qualities, I believe vendors should at least open those products and test them out with ohm checkers and all that before they sell them - this would benefit the vaper, the customer. I don't vape to keep vendors in business and I do feel sorry for anyone who's continuously wasted money, money that could have went to their kids or family or a good cause, simply because they feel they owe something to vendors who really are being dishonest that really do know the faults behind certain products out there, especially products that have been sitting on shelves for years.

What would really make me appreciate a member on this forum, is someone who, opposite from modding and just recommending the complexities that work better, would, a bit like me, still try and dig deep into the "cheap and easy" side of vaping, to simply review and try to find where the problems with some of these products source from, wether it's small dimensions in wicking slots that restrict wicking, or coils that are often coiled wrong or jump around in output, or lower end batteries that may develop voltage problems with wear and accidents, all those types of tests where we as users here can get a definate answer on which products really do work %75 of the time, and which ones only seem to work about %10 of the time. This is what I believe would benefit new members more than anything, as new members are still the ones who trust clearomizers and even are still buying old Ego-C cartridges from 2009 just because they are still selling at like $80 for a kit - something that tricks consumers into thinking they're getting a high quality product.

I mean, so far, the only things this forum as a whole seem to unilaterally "talk down on" are cigalike kits and maybe CE4's. I just think there's many more products than that out there that seem to have problems, and of coarse, anyone can try to make their own change to a product, but there's many who can't and don't want to, and I think the real reviews need to exist. Before I signed up on this forum, where do you guys think I went to check out reviews and experiences with the products I've reviewed? I went here. Saw a bunch of gibber-gabber about how Protanks and junk work right out the box, and then I spent money, when that was never the truth, not by a mile. I just think this forum needs a lot more honesty, and I think we still need to search for a product out there that never seems to have issues - I have a gut feeling it exists, and if someone here were to find that type of product, they'd be a savior to newer members and even people like me who truly would rather have an easier experience in vaping.

So far, I do have to say that, at least if this is the experience most people have had, that it's a good thing that iClears are really catching on and getting good reviews, as everyone seems to have a great vape with them. If that's really true, then I'm glad to see this forum starting to recommend that device like crazy. However, I had the worst vaping experience ever with an iClear head, maybe I was just that unlucky %10 chance that any device in the world will have of not working correctly, but if there are issues with the iClear system, I think people need to be more up front about it. Depends on what the truth really is around here. I know that back in the day, the Protank was promoted as the "perfect easy system" and look where a year of cooling down has gotten us - now everyone says the Protank, if you don't rebuild it, is junk. Who knows if the iClear will have the same honesty in feedback a year down the road.

I'm not trying to start any arguement, but the reality is that many of us here don't have vaping buddies who do mods and have every device under the sun to test out, many of us here don't have dedicated vendors in the area who are honest and dedicated to simply getting the customer a vaping device that works for them in the end, many of us here just don't have the knowledge to rebuild atomizers straight away, and most of all, many of us here aren't rich as crap and can't be spending thousands of dollars going through devices at the whims of people who aren't telling it like it is and allowing newer users to be aware of problems that exist and the rate that the experienced user has had a problem out of a particular device.

That's why I do my reviews here; if a member doesn't have the money to waste on products, then I sure hope my reviews at least encourage them to, in any way possible, try out a Protank or Aspire or iClear before they put down the big bucks - or at least search out those crazy holiday deals where the tank is being sold for $4 or something. I'd tell anyone here not to put down $20 on a Protank of any form. And I'd hope that would at least help users to think for themselves and don't believe that costlier products really work better in the end. Under the rebuildable level, I don't believe any product out there is easy to get to work right, and I guess my biggest statement is that if you decide to start at a level under RDA vaping, DO NOT pay full price for some of these products. Snatch up the holiday deals, look for the discounts. Don't waste money. If you end up finding the vape that works for you, then sure, throw the cash at vendors. But without knowing what your vape is, don't make the same mistake I did, don't throw $20 out the window every day on stuff that simply will not begin to work right.

I say that I'll never be the most helpful member here simply because I don't yet have Good News to offer people, I don't have a product recommendation yet and that will always make me look like a debbie downer, someone that people can't trust, someone that must not know what they're doing, but really, I feel that it's simply the grade of products out there. No one wants to be stuck on the road I've went through, and I don't think anyone here deserves that. Vaping isn't some hobby where people should goad others into buying faulty gear just to get them to "learn something" and "get experience". Vaping isn't supposed to be some technical hobby where someone just has to learn that Chevrolet is better than Ford. We're a community here and I believe that people need to do more in ensuring that the people who simply want to vape can do so with trustworthy products.

Imagine if every NFL Linebacker who first played football with his dad at 6 years old always had a football that deflated the first time they threw it. Doubt very much anyone would be into football. It doesn't first take a rocket scientist for someone to become one, the positives and the interests have to already be there to spark the enjoyment and get people into the hobby. If we all know that CE4's hardly ever work for anyone, we need to put our feet down and not shop at vendors that claim they are perfect devices. If we know that old Ego-C cartilages that have the parts that drip juice onto the atomizer don't work often, we need to stop shopping at vendors that sell those kits for $80, when an MVP/iClear kit is CHEAPER and BETTER. We need to make sure that PEOPLE vape and not VENDORS. It broke my heart to see everyone and their mother come into one of the local dishonest shops, complaining that their 5th CE4 in a row tasted burnt, or that an $80 cigalike didn't last but an hour and died two days later. That's what breaks my heart and that's why I do reviews.

Sorry... But that Wall-o-Text just had to be Quoted.

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Myrany

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GoodNews

No one on this forum tried to help you? No one tried to solve your issues?

This thread isn't about your issues with the industry or any of that. If your answer to my above 2 questions is no then simply not posting in this thread is answer enough to the question posed in the OP. Heck even a simple sentence saying "No I do not believe there is anyone worthy of my recommendation" is enough. Dissertation not required.
 

Shadav

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Goodnews, not sure where you lurk around in the forums but obviously not in or around the parts that I do or any of the people I named.... Now that said....this thread is in appreciation of the members, not a product or vendor. Glad that you feel to nominate yourself and your reviews....btw you aren't the only one to do that just an FYI.....
Now can we return to the topic at hand and congrats to those that have gone out of there way to help others to learn more about vaping and encouragement on quitting/limiting smoking.
Btw I'd like to also say thanks to cat mom, dusty, classy, e-pipe man and jj2 thanks for the laughs :)
 

six

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People come and go from this forum and other forums. The most helpful? That sure is subjective. I appreciate everyone's posts because we are all in it together.

Seriously. Even the people I've added to my blocked users list and even those who get on my nerves or alternately those whom I think really see the world the way I do and those I've had many conversations with via PM, facebook, and telephone or those who are from where I'm from or those who are from as far away from here as you could get... We are all in it together. Every word posted here - every bit of knowledge - every question asked - every opinion freely given ... All of it benefits all of us.
 

RedNBlack

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As a follow up,
Baditude,
Bills Majic Vapor,
Thrasher,
Katya,
Ocelot,
Vapoor eyes er,
AttyPops,
Ryedan,
Caridwen,

D***, the list goes on.......
Do not know if I can list all the dedicated ECF neighbors.....

Sorry guys,
Moon lit Waters,
Warhawk,
D*** the list could go on....

Have not ever had a question that someone here did not have the info I needed, or a direction
to go to find it.

Without you all, this would have been more than a "Long Strange Trip Its Been"

Thanks to one and all,

.....Still on the Vape Ride, with no plans to get off......
 
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Racehorse

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I nominate Good News for...........comic relief. :)

There is a grain of truth in what he says, nothing works *perfectly* but most of us don't expect that anyway......do we?

I remember smoking, sometimes a cig would stick to my lips and practically pull skin off, or i would drop one while driving and have to pull over to avoid a fire, or sometimes a hot ash would fly off my cigarette and go directly into my eyeball! I have a burn mark in my kitchen floor, and I just found an old courduroy coat with a cigarette burn in it that I used to wear before I took up vaping. Sometimes I'd put my cigarette down in ashtray and it would burn down and then fall off the edge of the ashtray and almost burn a hole in the table with the smoking filter. Other times I'd put a cigarette down in the ashtray, go back to it a few seconds later and it would have gone out! Then remember losing your lighter???

So happy new year, Good News. Thank goodness, life is quirky and unpredicatable, as is vaping and all things vaping sometimes. Living is challenging sometimes, isn't it? :lol:
 
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The Ocelot

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I would put the ocelot at the top IF she had completed the "kitty explains ohm's law". ..LOL..Everyone has been so helpfull. Thanks to each and everyone.

"If you believe you can hear the bell. I hear the bell. Do YOU hear the bell?"

It's coming! One cannot rush art or science.

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sawlight

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Personally, my biggest qualm with many members on this forum is the fact that so many people are dedicated to vaping and dedicated to the industry that many members just don't seem open minded at all to the fact that a lot of lesser grade products in the field do seem to have the tendency to not work properly, and refuse to educate new members as to why this really is, or stand behind the people in the industry who call for vendors not to sell these products or at least mark them down to a reasonable price that could allow even the poorest vaper to take a chance at getting a working vape.

I'm not just posting this as what I've experienced, but what I see on threads every day of the attitudes and quotes that some of these members post on many threads of newer users. I think a lot of people here forget that vaping is about the vaper, and not about if a business or company that makes faulty products continues to thrive. Not every vendor has to succeed in order for vaping to gain in popularity and success, and it's actually quite the opposite - any product that's known to not work right should have enough negative feedback to cause vendors to care about their customers and pull the products off the market or put them on clearance, with big banners that say "We're selling this clearomizer for $1 because 9 out of 10 heads seem to be faulty - take your chance."

It doesn't take much money for a vendor at least make back what they spent if a product line does fail, yet greediness can consume even the best of suppliers. If there are products out there that don't have good production qualities, I believe vendors should at least open those products and test them out with ohm checkers and all that before they sell them - this would benefit the vaper, the customer. I don't vape to keep vendors in business and I do feel sorry for anyone who's continuously wasted money, money that could have went to their kids or family or a good cause, simply because they feel they owe something to vendors who really are being dishonest that really do know the faults behind certain products out there, especially products that have been sitting on shelves for years.

What would really make me appreciate a member on this forum, is someone who, opposite from modding and just recommending the complexities that work better, would, a bit like me, still try and dig deep into the "cheap and easy" side of vaping, to simply review and try to find where the problems with some of these products source from, wether it's small dimensions in wicking slots that restrict wicking, or coils that are often coiled wrong or jump around in output, or lower end batteries that may develop voltage problems with wear and accidents, all those types of tests where we as users here can get a definate answer on which products really do work %75 of the time, and which ones only seem to work about %10 of the time. This is what I believe would benefit new members more than anything, as new members are still the ones who trust clearomizers and even are still buying old Ego-C cartridges from 2009 just because they are still selling at like $80 for a kit - something that tricks consumers into thinking they're getting a high quality product.

I mean, so far, the only things this forum as a whole seem to unilaterally "talk down on" are cigalike kits and maybe CE4's. I just think there's many more products than that out there that seem to have problems, and of coarse, anyone can try to make their own change to a product, but there's many who can't and don't want to, and I think the real reviews need to exist. Before I signed up on this forum, where do you guys think I went to check out reviews and experiences with the products I've reviewed? I went here. Saw a bunch of gibber-gabber about how Protanks and junk work right out the box, and then I spent money, when that was never the truth, not by a mile. I just think this forum needs a lot more honesty, and I think we still need to search for a product out there that never seems to have issues - I have a gut feeling it exists, and if someone here were to find that type of product, they'd be a savior to newer members and even people like me who truly would rather have an easier experience in vaping.

So far, I do have to say that, at least if this is the experience most people have had, that it's a good thing that iClears are really catching on and getting good reviews, as everyone seems to have a great vape with them. If that's really true, then I'm glad to see this forum starting to recommend that device like crazy. However, I had the worst vaping experience ever with an iClear head, maybe I was just that unlucky %10 chance that any device in the world will have of not working correctly, but if there are issues with the iClear system, I think people need to be more up front about it. Depends on what the truth really is around here. I know that back in the day, the Protank was promoted as the "perfect easy system" and look where a year of cooling down has gotten us - now everyone says the Protank, if you don't rebuild it, is junk. Who knows if the iClear will have the same honesty in feedback a year down the road.

I'm not trying to start any arguement, but the reality is that many of us here don't have vaping buddies who do mods and have every device under the sun to test out, many of us here don't have dedicated vendors in the area who are honest and dedicated to simply getting the customer a vaping device that works for them in the end, many of us here just don't have the knowledge to rebuild atomizers straight away, and most of all, many of us here aren't rich as crap and can't be spending thousands of dollars going through devices at the whims of people who aren't telling it like it is and allowing newer users to be aware of problems that exist and the rate that the experienced user has had a problem out of a particular device.

That's why I do my reviews here; if a member doesn't have the money to waste on products, then I sure hope my reviews at least encourage them to, in any way possible, try out a Protank or Aspire or iClear before they put down the big bucks - or at least search out those crazy holiday deals where the tank is being sold for $4 or something. I'd tell anyone here not to put down $20 on a Protank of any form. And I'd hope that would at least help users to think for themselves and don't believe that costlier products really work better in the end. Under the rebuildable level, I don't believe any product out there is easy to get to work right, and I guess my biggest statement is that if you decide to start at a level under RDA vaping, DO NOT pay full price for some of these products. Snatch up the holiday deals, look for the discounts. Don't waste money. If you end up finding the vape that works for you, then sure, throw the cash at vendors. But without knowing what your vape is, don't make the same mistake I did, don't throw $20 out the window every day on stuff that simply will not begin to work right.

I say that I'll never be the most helpful member here simply because I don't yet have Good News to offer people, I don't have a product recommendation yet and that will always make me look like a debbie downer, someone that people can't trust, someone that must not know what they're doing, but really, I feel that it's simply the grade of products out there. No one wants to be stuck on the road I've went through, and I don't think anyone here deserves that. Vaping isn't some hobby where people should goad others into buying faulty gear just to get them to "learn something" and "get experience". Vaping isn't supposed to be some technical hobby where someone just has to learn that Chevrolet is better than Ford. We're a community here and I believe that people need to do more in ensuring that the people who simply want to vape can do so with trustworthy products.

Imagine if every NFL Linebacker who first played football with his dad at 6 years old always had a football that deflated the first time they threw it. Doubt very much anyone would be into football. It doesn't first take a rocket scientist for someone to become one, the positives and the interests have to already be there to spark the enjoyment and get people into the hobby. If we all know that CE4's hardly ever work for anyone, we need to put our feet down and not shop at vendors that claim they are perfect devices. If we know that old Ego-C cartilages that have the parts that drip juice onto the atomizer don't work often, we need to stop shopping at vendors that sell those kits for $80, when an MVP/iClear kit is CHEAPER and BETTER. We need to make sure that PEOPLE vape and not VENDORS. It broke my heart to see everyone and their mother come into one of the local dishonest shops, complaining that their 5th CE4 in a row tasted burnt, or that an $80 cigalike didn't last but an hour and died two days later. That's what breaks my heart and that's why I do reviews.

And this adds what to the spirit of the thread? You've been here six? months and have it all figured out? I've read this post three times and still have no idea what you are on about!
Please. if you don't have anything constructive to add to this thread, please don't! This is about some of the helpful people on this site, that go above and beyond, to help others out, not about a rant!
 

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Personally, my biggest qualm with many members on this forum is the fact that so many people are dedicated to vaping and dedicated to the industry that many members just don't seem open minded at all to the fact that a lot of lesser grade products in the field do seem to have the tendency to not work properly, and refuse to educate new members as to why this really is, or stand behind the people in the industry who call for vendors not to sell these products or at least mark them down to a reasonable price that could allow even the poorest vaper to take a chance at getting a working vape.

I'm not just posting this as what I've experienced, but what I see on threads every day of the attitudes and quotes that some of these members post on many threads of newer users. I think a lot of people here forget that vaping is about the vaper, and not about if a business or company that makes faulty products continues to thrive. Not every vendor has to succeed in order for vaping to gain in popularity and success, and it's actually quite the opposite - any product that's known to not work right should have enough negative feedback to cause vendors to care about their customers and pull the products off the market or put them on clearance, with big banners that say "We're selling this clearomizer for $1 because 9 out of 10 heads seem to be faulty - take your chance."

It doesn't take much money for a vendor at least make back what they spent if a product line does fail, yet greediness can consume even the best of suppliers. If there are products out there that don't have good production qualities, I believe vendors should at least open those products and test them out with ohm checkers and all that before they sell them - this would benefit the vaper, the customer. I don't vape to keep vendors in business and I do feel sorry for anyone who's continuously wasted money, money that could have went to their kids or family or a good cause, simply because they feel they owe something to vendors who really are being dishonest that really do know the faults behind certain products out there, especially products that have been sitting on shelves for years.

What would really make me appreciate a member on this forum, is someone who, opposite from modding and just recommending the complexities that work better, would, a bit like me, still try and dig deep into the "cheap and easy" side of vaping, to simply review and try to find where the problems with some of these products source from, wether it's small dimensions in wicking slots that restrict wicking, or coils that are often coiled wrong or jump around in output, or lower end batteries that may develop voltage problems with wear and accidents, all those types of tests where we as users here can get a definate answer on which products really do work %75 of the time, and which ones only seem to work about %10 of the time. This is what I believe would benefit new members more than anything, as new members are still the ones who trust clearomizers and even are still buying old Ego-C cartridges from 2009 just because they are still selling at like $80 for a kit - something that tricks consumers into thinking they're getting a high quality product.

I mean, so far, the only things this forum as a whole seem to unilaterally "talk down on" are cigalike kits and maybe CE4's. I just think there's many more products than that out there that seem to have problems, and of coarse, anyone can try to make their own change to a product, but there's many who can't and don't want to, and I think the real reviews need to exist. Before I signed up on this forum, where do you guys think I went to check out reviews and experiences with the products I've reviewed? I went here. Saw a bunch of gibber-gabber about how Protanks and junk work right out the box, and then I spent money, when that was never the truth, not by a mile. I just think this forum needs a lot more honesty, and I think we still need to search for a product out there that never seems to have issues - I have a gut feeling it exists, and if someone here were to find that type of product, they'd be a savior to newer members and even people like me who truly would rather have an easier experience in vaping.

So far, I do have to say that, at least if this is the experience most people have had, that it's a good thing that iClears are really catching on and getting good reviews, as everyone seems to have a great vape with them. If that's really true, then I'm glad to see this forum starting to recommend that device like crazy. However, I had the worst vaping experience ever with an iClear head, maybe I was just that unlucky %10 chance that any device in the world will have of not working correctly, but if there are issues with the iClear system, I think people need to be more up front about it. Depends on what the truth really is around here. I know that back in the day, the Protank was promoted as the "perfect easy system" and look where a year of cooling down has gotten us - now everyone says the Protank, if you don't rebuild it, is junk. Who knows if the iClear will have the same honesty in feedback a year down the road.

I'm not trying to start any arguement, but the reality is that many of us here don't have vaping buddies who do mods and have every device under the sun to test out, many of us here don't have dedicated vendors in the area who are honest and dedicated to simply getting the customer a vaping device that works for them in the end, many of us here just don't have the knowledge to rebuild atomizers straight away, and most of all, many of us here aren't rich as crap and can't be spending thousands of dollars going through devices at the whims of people who aren't telling it like it is and allowing newer users to be aware of problems that exist and the rate that the experienced user has had a problem out of a particular device.

That's why I do my reviews here; if a member doesn't have the money to waste on products, then I sure hope my reviews at least encourage them to, in any way possible, try out a Protank or Aspire or iClear before they put down the big bucks - or at least search out those crazy holiday deals where the tank is being sold for $4 or something. I'd tell anyone here not to put down $20 on a Protank of any form. And I'd hope that would at least help users to think for themselves and don't believe that costlier products really work better in the end. Under the rebuildable level, I don't believe any product out there is easy to get to work right, and I guess my biggest statement is that if you decide to start at a level under RDA vaping, DO NOT pay full price for some of these products. Snatch up the holiday deals, look for the discounts. Don't waste money. If you end up finding the vape that works for you, then sure, throw the cash at vendors. But without knowing what your vape is, don't make the same mistake I did, don't throw $20 out the window every day on stuff that simply will not begin to work right.

I say that I'll never be the most helpful member here simply because I don't yet have Good News to offer people, I don't have a product recommendation yet and that will always make me look like a debbie downer, someone that people can't trust, someone that must not know what they're doing, but really, I feel that it's simply the grade of products out there. No one wants to be stuck on the road I've went through, and I don't think anyone here deserves that. Vaping isn't some hobby where people should goad others into buying faulty gear just to get them to "learn something" and "get experience". Vaping isn't supposed to be some technical hobby where someone just has to learn that Chevrolet is better than Ford. We're a community here and I believe that people need to do more in ensuring that the people who simply want to vape can do so with trustworthy products.

Imagine if every NFL Linebacker who first played football with his dad at 6 years old always had a football that deflated the first time they threw it. Doubt very much anyone would be into football. It doesn't first take a rocket scientist for someone to become one, the positives and the interests have to already be there to spark the enjoyment and get people into the hobby. If we all know that CE4's hardly ever work for anyone, we need to put our feet down and not shop at vendors that claim they are perfect devices. If we know that old Ego-C cartilages that have the parts that drip juice onto the atomizer don't work often, we need to stop shopping at vendors that sell those kits for $80, when an MVP/iClear kit is CHEAPER and BETTER. We need to make sure that PEOPLE vape and not VENDORS. It broke my heart to see everyone and their mother come into one of the local dishonest shops, complaining that their 5th CE4 in a row tasted burnt, or that an $80 cigalike didn't last but an hour and died two days later. That's what breaks my heart and that's why I do reviews.

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