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Yup Yup there's something to be said for the ability to work for yourself, that's for damn sure.
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Yup Yup there's something to be said for the ability to work for yourself, that's for damn sure.
Do it! I don't know more about them than to check my email and mess around here but they have all the in between classes to get ya to where ya need to be ya know? Heck that's what I'm banking on lolol
I don't know more about them than to check my email and mess around here but they have all the in between classes to get ya to where ya need to be ya know? Heck that's what I'm banking on lolol
Everyone keeps saying this, yet I have 10 acres and tons of work that needs to be done, as well as "honey-do's" (install my new kitchen faucet, smoke alarm, build shelves in my pantry etc. ) and I can't find anyone who WANTS to work.
Until recently, I designed computer related curriculum for junior colleges and tech schools, so I hope you don't mind me saying this.
The work-at-home designer is competing w/studios who have entire legal, financial, and marketing teams at their disposal. Big corps have inhouse staff to keep theirs updated and/or are going to use studios as mentioned.
Designing for the littler guys is practically non existent now, as someone with minimal computer skills can pretty much design their own web site nowadays with the software available, some of which is even free.
Forensics is a better field, IMHO but you need a very good foundation in mathematics or engineering to get a job.
Anything that can be automated will be. They are even getting rid of stockbrokers, they have computer robots who can press buttons now which if you knew what an entry level stockmarket kid does in his first job, is pretty much just a sales job.....make phone calls and press buttons.
you want to find something that 1) can't be oursourced and 2) needs an actual thinking human being with critical thinking skills to accomplish. Do not forget that the robotics of today are pretty "smart". They can follow logic due to flowchart programming, and thus almost appear to be able to problem-solve.
There are people with very high level mathematical and engineering skills who can come here on work visas for any job that companies can't find somebody local to do. I know people don't like that, but truth is, india and asia etc. figured this out a long time ago and educate their people rather strongly in these fields, and I've worked with some on work visas in network operations centers and they are VERY BRIGHT. They have the skills to do the job even if their command of the english language is sometimes not the best.
I've also worked in the telecom field with young people coming out of the military who were in communications.....these are people who can string a network out at even the most primitive desert outposts, so these are some rather savvy telecom people.
It worries me somewhat that both some Americans as well as young college kids may not realize the level of people they will be forced to "compete" with out there in the global marketplace. My suggestion is if looking into the computer field, find the most high-tech oriented education available, and proceed in that direction.
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Best advice: I have a 21 year old friend who does nothing but computer repair for locals who get viruses from surfing Facebook and motherboards that get struck by lightning, etc. Hang out a shingle and do that. This is, by far, the most bang-for-the-buck for a fledgling computer guy with general skills. Learn all the ins and outs of the most recent operating system, and some basic hardware installation, and how to solder parts on a motherboard, and you're gonna make $$.
Most people who go to "computer school" now, if they don't get high level skills I spoke of are going to end up in a call center in a cubicle making a little over $10 an hour, IF they can even find a call center that is not in India. I taught high school grads and was surprised that most did not even have the math skills to understand the IP adressessing system and Subnet masks, so they could not troubleshoot router problems in a call center for customers. LAN and WAN knowledge is absolutely necessary in this setting.
Sorry for the novel, this is "chat it up" so I thought I'd try to save somebody some $$ and give some direction. My Microsoft Certified System Engineer certifications have lapsed since i retired, so I'm pretty sure I couldn't even get a job these days.
Most people who go to "computer school" now, if they don't get high level skills I spoke of are going to end up in a call center in a cubicle making a little over $10 an hour, IF they can even find a call center that is not in India.
I taught high school grads and was surprised that most did not even have the math skills to understand the IP adressessing system and Subnet masks, so they could not troubleshoot router problems in a call center for customers. LAN and WAN knowledge is absolutely necessary in this setting.Sorry for the novel, this is "chat it up" so I thought I'd try to save somebody some $$ and give some direction. My Microsoft Certified System Engineer certifications have lapsed since i retired, so I'm pretty sure I couldn't even get a job these days.
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I used to own my own design and development company. I also worked for Anheuser-Busch doing Web Design and front end programming. As well as for the DOD here at Scott Air Force Base. I can tell you he is 100% correct. There is no real future for independent Web Design companies now.
Good Morning MOV'ers Racehorse, glad you posted that. Definitely food for thought. At the very least has led me to realize I should do some actual research, thanks I haven't had quite the proper coffee for a more thorough reply, apologies, but I do appreciate the post
Damimal, you're pretty close to bedtime, no?
Racehorse, glad you posted that. Definitely food for thought. At the very least has led me to realize I should do some actual research, thanks I haven't had quite the proper coffee for a more thorough reply, apologies, but I do appreciate the post Damimal, you're pretty close to bedtime, no?
Tossing in something random to be in the contest: I'm hurt that the Bears lost to the Texans last night. Good game, the better team won. Unfortunately it wasn't my team.
I am still ...... that the Cardinals blew it, yet happy that SF swept the World Series. Shows they were the better team in my eyes. Seven in a row is no joke in the playoffs and World Series.
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