Mr Puffer official MP-1 tips and tricks

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sanjosse

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I just posted this concerning protected 14500 3.7V batteries;

Battery 1: DealExtreme: $5.40 TrustFire Protected 14500 3.7V 900mAh Rechargeable Lithium Batteries (2-Pack)

Battery 2: DealExtreme: $4.73 TrustFire Protected 14500 3.7V 900mAh Lithium Batteries (2-Pack Blue)

Battery 3: DealExtreme: $5.37 TrustFire Protected 3.7V 900mAh 14500 Lithium Battery (2-Pack)

Battery 4: DealExtreme: $3.99 TrustFire 14500 3.7V 900mAh Rechargeable Lithium Batteries (2-Pack)

I have a question. What is the difference in the batteries above? All Trustfire, all the same specs, all on one site, all near the same price. What the hell? I ordered 4 of the Battery 1 type for my MrPuffer. From the reviews it seems they are a bit better, but I have no idea why.
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My reply;

I recently purchased a MrPuffer MP1 and bought 4 batteries from an online vendor. Once I received them, (one was DOA) I noticed that they read 3.6V on the side, worried I contacted MrPuff, he said that the voltage would work fine.

IMOA, the batteries are too long. They caused the box to distort, and now I've noticed a stress fracture on the side of the box where the battery sits. I have since removed the battery spring all together. This seems to have helped.

So, if you ask me, buy either Battery 3 or Battery 4 for your MP1. Their dimensions are shorter.
Dimensions: 1.97 in x 0.51 in x 0.51 in
Dimensions: 1.97 in x 0.59 in x 0.59 in​

Compared to Battery 1 & 2 which are longer.
Dimensions: 2.01 in x 0.55 in x 0.55 in
Dimensions: 2.05 in x 0.57 in x 0.57 in​

Hope this helps you other Puffheads out there get the right batteries!
 
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goochkc

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I just posted this concerning protected 14500 3.7V batteries

I gather that cloudsofvapor.com is going to have some IMR 14500 high drain batteries available by the end of the week. I gather he is selling them for $8, but I think they are the only lithium manganese oxide chemistry 14500 batteries anywhere.
 

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I gather that cloudsofvapor.com is going to have some IMR 14500 high drain batteries available by the end of the week. I gather he is selling them for $8, but I think they are the only lithium manganese oxide chemistry 14500 batteries anywhere.

Last I'd checked the expected arrival date for those was having to be moved from week to week due to delays, so I hope they score this time. Nice little store. I gather AW is also supposed to be bringing out an IMR 14500 within several weeks or so.
 

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Hi folks, I was thinking, if any of you end up in a position to perform any of the home fixes on a MrP that have been mentioned in various threads, e.g. ones involving soldering or fixing the epoxy, it would be great if you'd seize the opportunity to simultaneously do a video or photo shoot! :D

That kind of stuff probably seems like a no-brainer to many, but there are surely plenty of others like me who would find it extremely helpful, even if only for that final confidence push (i.e 'Ah ok I see I DO in fact get it') needed to opt for attempting repair at home rather than sending in. MrPuff is of course very good about performing repairs, but doing it at home when feasible would in many cases also seem preferable and more convenient to the customer. And would increase a sense of confidence and control in buying types of mods that carry unique pitfalls.

Ooooh MrPuff, if you're reading... if convenient it would be great if you could shoot some of your own repair sessions sometime!! :)
 

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I gather that cloudsofvapor.com is going to have some IMR 14500 high drain batteries available by the end of the week. I gather he is selling them for $8, but I think they are the only lithium manganese oxide chemistry 14500 batteries anywhere.

They're in but note, BB just posted --

Advice for you Wetbox and Mr. Puffer fans:
Even though the battery has a button top, it requires a magnetic spacer on the top for these mods. I sell them 2 for $1.
 

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I received my Mr Puffer late last week. I've been using it every day since with NHaler LR Attys(1.5-2Ω). I'm using protected 14500s from MadVapes. Just the other day I started noticing that my atty was only firing for a second or two then it would cut off. I switched batteries - no luck. I switched to an older atty that I knew worked well - no luck. Then I put on a brand new atty and it worked well again. I noticed that the attys I was having the issue with(one I've been using for days) were ~1.5Ω and the brand new atty was ~2Ω.

The only thing I can think of that may be occurring is that with an atty < xΩ my battery is cutting the current with the protection circuit. Now these same attys work fine with a 510 USB PT w/inline batter and the XSHaler(16340).

I'm not very familiar with how the mAh values, discharge rates, and protection circuits affect a batteries performance. Could the problem I'm having have something to do with how the 14500 has 900mAh and the 16340 has 880mAh? They seem like very similar batteries in that respect.

CloudsOfVapor sells a High Drain 14500, would that solve the problem?
 

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I received my Mr Puffer late last week. I've been using it every day since with NHaler LR Attys(1.5-2Ω). I'm using protected 14500s from MadVapes. Just the other day I started noticing that my atty was only firing for a second or two then it would cut off. I switched batteries - no luck. I switched to an older atty that I knew worked well - no luck. Then I put on a brand new atty and it worked well again. I noticed that the attys I was having the issue with(one I've been using for days) were ~1.5Ω and the brand new atty was ~2Ω.

The only thing I can think of that may be occurring is that with an atty < xΩ my battery is cutting the current with the protection circuit. Now these same attys work fine with a 510 USB PT w/inline batter and the XSHaler(16340).

I'm not very familiar with how the mAh values, discharge rates, and protection circuits affect a batteries performance. Could the problem I'm having have something to do with how the 14500 has 900mAh and the 16340 has 880mAh? They seem like very similar batteries in that respect.

CloudsOfVapor sells a High Drain 14500, would that solve the problem?

I can't say anything in regards to the technical specs of the batteries or the attys, but I have a LR atty from madvapes and gray UltraFire 14500s, I received my Puffer on April 30th and have had no problems at all. I use it heavily all day every day and would definitely notice if it cut out after anything like 2 seconds. You could try the IMR 14500s that CloudsOfVapor just got in, they do not use a protection circuit, so it would confirm if that is causing your issues. I can't imagine that the mAh rating would cause the symptoms you are experiencing though. People have had mods that use these same batteries in this kind of configuration successfully for a while now. I would get the high drain batteries in any case (mine have already shipped). I think that they're a good idea if only because their chemistry is suppose to be safer. Your problem sounds strange, let us know when you find a solution.

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I received my Mr Puffer late last week. I've been using it every day since with NHaler LR Attys(1.5-2Ω). I'm using protected 14500s from MadVapes. Just the other day I started noticing that my atty was only firing for a second or two then it would cut off. I switched batteries - no luck. I switched to an older atty that I knew worked well - no luck. Then I put on a brand new atty and it worked well again. I noticed that the attys I was having the issue with(one I've been using for days) were ~1.5Ω and the brand new atty was ~2Ω.

The only thing I can think of that may be occurring is that with an atty < xΩ my battery is cutting the current with the protection circuit. Now these same attys work fine with a 510 USB PT w/inline batter and the XSHaler(16340).

I'm not very familiar with how the mAh values, discharge rates, and protection circuits affect a batteries performance. Could the problem I'm having have something to do with how the 14500 has 900mAh and the 16340 has 880mAh? They seem like very similar batteries in that respect.

CloudsOfVapor sells a High Drain 14500, would that solve the problem?
My guess is one atty center post is making better contact than the other one.
 

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My guess is one atty center post is making better contact than the other one.

That reminds me, another tip to add here (tho not sure if many would want to use it as a perm workaround): Someone mentioned on another thread that the 'staple mod' has facilitated contact and enabled a couple MrPuffers to fire up. Did you end up trying that Krythis? To shed light on the issue, anyway.
 

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That reminds me, another tip to add here (tho not sure if many would want to use it as a perm workaround): Someone mentioned on another thread that the 'staple mod' has facilitated contact and enabled a couple MrPuffers to fire up. Did you end up trying that Krythis? To shed light on the issue, anyway.

I'm not familiar with the staple mod can you explain or post a link to a thread that does?
 

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I'm not familiar with the staple mod can you explain or post a link to a thread that does?

Yup, here ya go -- it's very useful not only for when more airflow is needed between a batt/connector or adapter and the atty or carto you want to use, but also for helping the metals of each end make contact when manufacturing variances or defects are keeping them from meeting (the latter being what chuckie and someone on another thread suggested may be what's needed for Krythis' MrPuffer).

Staple Mod - Filling The Center Conductor Gap
 

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Yup, here ya go -- it's very useful not only for when more airflow is needed between a batt/connector or adapter and the atty or carto you want to use, but also for helping the metals of each end make contact when manufacturing variances or defects are keeping them from meeting (the latter being what chuckie and someone on another thread suggested may be what's needed for Krythis' MrPuffer).

Staple Mod - Filling The Center Conductor Gap

The amount of info on ECF never ceases to impress me. For every problem I have or could have someone has already posted a solution and if I haven't seen it somebody will gladly point me to it. :)
 

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Yup, here ya go -- it's very useful not only for when more airflow is needed between a batt/connector or adapter and the atty or carto you want to use, but also for helping the metals of each end make contact when manufacturing variances or defects are keeping them from meeting (the latter being what chuckie and someone on another thread suggested may be what's needed for Krythis' MrPuffer).

Staple Mod - Filling The Center Conductor Gap

Hm never tried that mod, I'll give it a shot. The one atty I have that was working has continued to work well so I haven't changed anything. Don't want to rock the boat :)
 

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I got my high drain IMR 14500s today from Clouds of Vapor and thought I should post my initial observations. I don't have the precision tools that a lot of folks on ECF have, but by my measurements they are a full quarter inch shorter than the gray UltraFires that I have been using. The button is so shallow that they will not work in the MrPuffer that I have without some kind of spacer, luckily I already had some tiny rare earth magnets that do the job. They charge just fine in the charger I have been using to charge my 14500s (I use a Shekor model SK-450T). My crummy postal scale shows that the TrustFires weigh 21 grams and the IMR 14500s weigh 19 grams. It may just be me, but the Puffer loaded up with one of the IMR 14500s weighs noticeably less. They definitely do not stress the box like the TrustFires do, they go in easy and make me glad I didn't remove the spring. I'm not prepared to comment on performance yet, I just haven't used them long enough. I will say that I like them however they preform because they are suppose to be less likely to blow a hole in may face. :thumbs:

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