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kelli

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what happens if you are unique and odd like me????

that is an unknown, so it kinda frightens me. scary-smiley.gif
 

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that is an unknown, so it kinda frightens me. View attachment 271588

another one to add to the list of people I frighten....and i promised myself I would stop

Really dying to try a root beer flavor lemme know if you jangle gets any more jingle from the root beer float:facepalm:
 

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another one to add to the list of people I frighten....and i promised myself I would stop

Really dying to try a root beer flavor lemme know if you jangle gets any more jingle from the root beer float:facepalm:

well, i like the root beer sans the float. but that doesn't mean you will. especially if you are scary. ;)
 

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so what's a vibrator? :confused:
:angel: Uh huh :)
I can think of a WHOLE BUNCH of replies to that post. But I'm just sitting here thinking
I hope he washed it first.
:lol: :lol: :lol:
electric: :banana:

non-electric: :pervy:


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ROFLMAO!!! :thumbs:
another one to add to the list of people I frighten....and i promised myself I would stop

Really dying to try a root beer flavor lemme know if you jangle gets any more jingle from the root beer float:facepalm:
Root Beer is really good (it's a root beer hard candy flavor) :thumb: I don't know about Root Beer Float, haven't tried it yet.
 

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pretty sure it's not a passing fad. thankfully, it's not a character defect. :)


it used to be that you were either in a biker gang, in prison, or in the service to have a tattoo. now i seldom see anybody without one. i often wonder if it's here to stay or a passing fad like most other things.
 

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Good evening MBV. :) I still don't have any tats nor have I gone on a cruise :glare: But I do have some juice :D I've mixed White Wine with Spring Break and made myself some Sangria :thumb:


Cytotoxins, hmmm :?: I guess I'm glad that I'm not much of a cinnamon vaper. Ceylon Cinnamon is true bakery cinnamon the best that I can tell...Cassius Cinnamon is what we usually get in the grocery store (yeah, I've watched too much Food Network). Cinnamaldehyde naturally occurs in the cinnamon bark, so that could be in "hot" cinnamon or "bakery" cinnamon.

The weird thing for me is this: Cinnamon has been touted as "healthy" and supposedly helps keep blood sugar levels stable. So now cinnamon is toxic? Or is that just when inhaled??? I'm a bit suspicious of the article, but of course we can't read the whole thing :glare:

The article scares the holy bejeegers out of me, but it was like reading Greek to me also. I've been vaping a lot more Cinnamon Roll the last few days. Cinnamon has many benefits....when ingested....it's probably not meant for lungs....makes sense. Kind of makes me feel a little sick right now just thinking about it. Watching The Walking Dead is not helping....:(
 

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The article scares the holy bejeegers out of me, but it was like reading Greek to me also. I've been vaping a lot more Cinnamon Roll the last few days. Cinnamon has many benefits....when ingested....it's probably not meant for lungs....makes sense. Kind of makes me feel a little sick right now just thinking about it. Watching The Walking Dead is not helping....:(
Don't let it scare you too much. I've read so many reviews/suggestions for cinnamon vapes I don't think I could count them. If cinnamon vapes were highly toxic, we'd all know about it by now since it seems to be a highly popular vape flavor. That's not to say that a measure of caution would hurt anything, and I fully expect you to wake up tomorrow :)

Of course, it might also help to remember that The Walking Dead isn't a documentary :D

You'll be okay, I promise :)
 

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The article scares the holy bejeegers out of me, but it was like reading Greek to me also. I've been vaping a lot more Cinnamon Roll the last few days. Cinnamon has many benefits....when ingested....it's probably not meant for lungs....makes sense. Kind of makes me feel a little sick right now just thinking about it. Watching The Walking Dead is not helping....:(

It's late and I've only skimmed the abstract, but here's what I got from it based on that quick read. First, "cytotoxic" and "toxic" aren't the same thing. If something is cytotoxic, it kills individual cells... that's it. Sounds bad, but cells aren't the same as organs. Oxygen is cytotoxic if it's administered carelessly (that's why infants in incubators used to have very high rates of blindness - we didn't know too much oxygen killed retinal cells till well into the 80s.) Many many drugs are cytotoxic, including all antibiotics. Chemo, of course, is cytotoxic. So just because something is cytotoxic doesn't mean it's going to kill you. Context, amount, and environment are all crucial... if that weren't true, I'd be dead, since small weekly doses of chemo are the gold-standard treatment for rheumatoid arthritis.

Secondly and more importantly, from what I can tell, this study was done in a petri dish... which is not at all analogous to the human body. If I were to list the number of drugs that worked great in a petri dish and didn't work at all in the human body, I'd be here all night. Ditto for the drugs deemed "safe" in petri dish studies that were later found to have horrific effects when introduced to the human body (my disability is a direct result of one such drug, and that drug was administered to my *grandmother* in 1953 - that's how long these effects can stick around and how dangerous it is to hang your hat on a lab study!). Lab studies are a great and necessary *start*, but they're really only useful to the scientists who run them, so that those people can get permission for studies that will provide more useful and relevant information.

So is it safe? Between that study and a magic 8 ball, I'd take the magic 8 ball. I have no idea if it's safe or not, mind you... what I'm saying is, that particular study puts us no closer to answering that question (except for potentially making the ground more fertile for studies in living, breathing humans).

All that abstract says is "in petri dishes, some cinnamon liquids have chemicals in them that kill cells (which cells used for the study isn't stated in the abstract, so we don't know what they used other than "adult cells" and "embryonic stem cells"... but "adult cells" covers a lot of ground. Lung cells? Skin cells? Buccal cells(from the mouth)?)

I'm not going to seek out cinnamon vapes, but I won't go out of my way to avoid them either. Other people might make other decisions, but for me, we don't know much of the nitty gritty about what's in *any* liquid, so I'm not going to panic just yet.
 
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