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Nailz

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    I would suggest signing up to every company's newsletter so you get notices when there's sales. I just got a coupon in my email from Hope e-liquids for 25% off (never ordered from them but considered it for the 4th.)

    I did my 1st order on the 4th with hopes because of there sale, got 60mls for $15, got there toffee and vanilla custard, toffee not bad, but love the vanilla custard, and seems like they have good sales quite often.
     

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    You really can't compare DIY to a vendor.
    That's the same as cooking at home vs a restaurant.
    I can make a mean steak, but I still enjoy going to Ruth Chris and getting a truly fantastic steak.
    Cigarettes cost about 10cents each to make and sell for $8+.
    $300 designer jeans cost about $8 to make.
    There's an old saying "you get what you pay for" if they found a way to cut costs you should be asking yourself what inferior ingredients are they using?

    Also most of your "Lamborghini" juices do not sell direct to the public, which means they actually probably make less per bottle than a MBV.
    So now you ask, well why don't they just sell direct to the public then?
    They have choosen to focus their time and resorses to develop high end liquid, if they had to also ship individual orders, maintain a commerce website, deal with CS, and 100 other little deals then surely that juice quality would take a backseat.

    Just my 2cents. Take it for what it's worth.

    So if they charge a lot, it must be good?
     

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    We all know it's fairly cheap to make flavored juices even when purchasing the quality flavoring. That's why so many people are making their own with success. MBV has figured out how to keep operating costs low and still have speedy service. That's worth something. And I'm not seeing any difference coffee e-juice I got for $12.50/15ml and any of the coffee flavors I've tried from MBV. Let us know what places sell the "Lamborghini" juices as I've yet to find them. I'm not saying that the $12.50/15ml juice is bad, it's just not better.

    Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like...your opinion man:D

    I like what some of the vendors are doing and I personally dont find it hard on my pockets at all to pay someone else to make my juice for me. If you feel what youre mixing up at home is as good as 5pawns, or AiV or HHV or what have you, then that makes sense for you I guess. Im not interested in trying to mix up juice, and even the "expensive" juices are cheap soooo...Ill keep buying them from vendors, thx tho

    The most expensive juice Ive found so far is 5 pawns, and its 27 bux for 30ml. It takes me around 2 months to vape 30 ml. thats around 14 bux a month. 3 bux a week. Im not homeless or jobless or anything, why would I be worried about spending 3 bux a week? I spent around $60 a week on cigarettes, ejuice is nothing, seriously, I dont get the DIY cheerleading.
     

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    I don't DIY either. And yeah, it's my opinion and tastes. I've tried all of 5 Pawns and some AiV and don't see the difference between them and MBV as a whole. I can't speak for every flavor each vendor makes as with MBV that does have quite a selection, there's going to be some duds. The cute packaging that some do is nice but it's only going to end up in a landfill. I'm not dissing higher priced juice. Just saying that compared to MBV flavor-wise, I'm not seeing a big difference.

    Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like...your opinion man:D

    I like what some of the vendors are doing and I personally dont find it hard on my pockets at all to pay someone else to make my juice for me. If you feel what youre mixing up at home is as good as 5pawns, or AiV or HHV or what have you, then that makes sense for you I guess. Im not interested in trying to mix up juice, and even the "expensive" juices are cheap soooo...Ill keep buying them from vendors, thx tho

    The most expensive juice Ive found so far is 5 pawns, and its 27 bux for 30ml. It takes me around 2 months to vape 30 ml. thats around 14 bux a month. 3 bux a week. Im not homeless or jobless or anything, why would I be worried about spending 3 bux a week? I spent around $60 a week on cigarettes, ejuice is nothing, seriously, I dont get the DIY cheerleading.
     

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    I don't DIY either. And yeah, it's my opinion and tastes. I've tried all of 5 Pawns and some AiV and don't see the difference between them and MBV as a whole. I can't speak for every flavor each vendor makes as with MBV that does have quite a selection, there's going to be some duds. The cute packaging that some do is nice but it's only going to end up in a landfill. I'm not dissing higher priced juice. Just saying that compared to MBV flavor-wise, I'm not seeing a big difference.

    I agree with you, tried 8 new vendors over the last few weeks, out of about 13 bottles, there is only 2 juices from 2 vendors I would re-order from, and I will probably just try them 2 flavors from MBV to see if like them from there too, thought the more expensive would be better, but if anything, most was horrible compared to MBV.
     

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    I did my 1st order on the 4th with hopes because of there sale, got 60mls for $15, got there toffee and vanilla custard, toffee not bad, but love the vanilla custard, and seems like they have good sales quite often.



    yeah, high dessert and Hope's were both doing 40% (or one was 50% and one 40%) but I wound up picking MBV. I do plan on acquiring some DIY from High Dessert though. Keeping an eye out for some sale that affects their DIY products (the fourth of july sale was only for ready-made mixes.)
     

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    Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like...your opinion man:D

    I like what some of the vendors are doing and I personally dont find it hard on my pockets at all to pay someone else to make my juice for me. If you feel what youre mixing up at home is as good as 5pawns, or AiV or HHV or what have you, then that makes sense for you I guess. Im not interested in trying to mix up juice, and even the "expensive" juices are cheap soooo...Ill keep buying them from vendors, thx tho

    The most expensive juice Ive found so far is 5 pawns, and its 27 bux for 30ml. It takes me around 2 months to vape 30 ml. thats around 14 bux a month. 3 bux a week. Im not homeless or jobless or anything, why would I be worried about spending 3 bux a week? I spent around $60 a week on cigarettes, ejuice is nothing, seriously, I dont get the DIY cheerleading.


    It takes my boyfriend a little less than 10 days to do 30mL, and strangely, he would buy a pack of cigs a week, so maybe four or five packs of cigs a month. It actually costs him more to vape than it does to smoke, however there's a lot less nagging when he vapes than when he smokes-- plus he does genuinely want to quit. He's just crap at willpower/combatting the addiction (and yes, I know it's an addiction, but when he smokes he doesn't even try to slowly tailor off-- he wants to do cold turkey or nothing and then of course and doesn't work and it's a vicious cycle.)

    back to the topic, 5pawns is pretty complex, as is the standard, and maybe some of MBV is complex too-- DIY is good for people who like a basic flavor, say blueberry. An 8oz bottle of VG is $8, an 8 oz bottle of PG probably goes for the same-- so that right there is just shy of 480mL. If someone wants to do 10+% of flavoring, they'd get 60mL of straight flavoring from High Desert Vapes for $12. $10 for some Nic Base to mix in and that's 16+12+10=$38 for over 500mL when all is said and done.

    Now I haven't done this before so my math might be off but it shouldn't be too off--
    If a person likes 1-2 flavor eJuice, then it makes sense. Especially if they're ramping down the nicotine every couple of months and don't want to have to figure out how to make use of their higher-nic juices.

    Then again, there's people who like modding the hell out of their e-cigs, and doing all sorts of crazy stuff. My boyfriend likes to call this an addiction, but I've seen him fussing over researching variable wattage/variable voltage-- this is a hobby for most people, and allowing manueverability via DIY is a lot of the reason why people do it.

    It's actually more up-front costs because you're getting a bunch of different flavorings from different companies seeing what you like, but over time it's cheaper.

    I liken it to me being my own hair-colorist-- I would rather buy all my stuff to do my hair and *chance* screwing it up myself after I've gone to so many hairdressers and have them butcher my hair. With research, I've made very few mistakes with my hair-- and there's so much out there for DIY that I think it would be the same way. At the moment, I don't mind buying ready made eJuice, but I think we've been lucky to find a few good juices and be able to depend on those without too much expenditure on crappy juices (except probably $50+ on a local company that I would consider consistently un-vapeable past the first 5-10mL.)
     

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    I liken it to me being my own hair-colorist-- I would rather buy all my stuff to do my hair and *chance* screwing it up myself after I've gone to so many hairdressers and have them butcher my hair. With research, I've made very few mistakes with my hair-- and there's so much out there for DIY that I think it would be the same way. At the moment, I don't mind buying ready made eJuice, but I think we've been lucky to find a few good juices and be able to depend on those without too much expenditure on crappy juices (except probably $50+ on a local company that I would consider consistently un-vapeable past the first 5-10mL.

    I wouldn't consider doing my own hair, but I do DIY some liquids.

    Most of the long term suppliers starting out DIY, they just got really good at it. For some of them it's a little side business or they're retired and don't charge a lot. That's why they have the following that they do.
     

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    Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like...your opinion man:D

    I like what some of the vendors are doing and I personally dont find it hard on my pockets at all to pay someone else to make my juice for me. If you feel what youre mixing up at home is as good as 5pawns, or AiV or HHV or what have you, then that makes sense for you I guess. Im not interested in trying to mix up juice, and even the "expensive" juices are cheap soooo...Ill keep buying them from vendors, thx tho

    The most expensive juice Ive found so far is 5 pawns, and its 27 bux for 30ml. It takes me around 2 months to vape 30 ml. thats around 14 bux a month. 3 bux a week. Im not homeless or jobless or anything, why would I be worried about spending 3 bux a week? I spent around $60 a week on cigarettes, ejuice is nothing, seriously, I dont get the DIY cheerleading.

    You don't go through a lot of juice, but you might change your mind the longer you vape.

    I don't necessarily do it for the price, although that's nice. It's just really convenient to whip up 60 mls or so when you get low. Takes about 5 minutes.

    I don't DIY every juice but I do a few. I got a little tired of the few I ordered from being down or on vacation or whatnot. Now I always have 'something'. Plus, I have about 2 years of nic stored just in case! :laugh:

    I had not so great results the first attempt at DIY and bought all my liquid for a couple years. The past year I got back into DIY when I got tired of constantly ordering one thing or another.
     
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    Let me start by saying pretty much all juices are reasonably priced compared to analogs. I buy from several vendors, some more expensive than others, but MBV is one of them. I don't have a problem with MBV, they have good juices at very good prices. I vape what I like and don't pay too much attention to price within reason. I have several favorites from several vendors, MBV is among this group. Taste is subjective, find what you like.
     

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    I don't DIY either. And yeah, it's my opinion and tastes. I've tried all of 5 Pawns and some AiV and don't see the difference between them and MBV as a whole. I can't speak for every flavor each vendor makes as with MBV that does have quite a selection, there's going to be some duds. The cute packaging that some do is nice but it's only going to end up in a landfill. I'm not dissing higher priced juice. Just saying that compared to MBV flavor-wise, I'm not seeing a big difference.

    If you cant tell a difference in quality between MBV and 5 pawns, then you're right, there is no reason to not buy MBV. I personally can't vape any of the horrid juices I bought from them and have been trying to get rid of them, albeit unsuccessfully.
     

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    You don't go through a lot of juice, but you might change your mind the longer you vape.

    I don't necessarily do it for the price, although that's nice. It's just really convenient to whip up 60 mls or so when you get low. Takes about 5 minutes.

    I don't DIY every juice but I do a few. I got a little tired of the few I ordered from being down or on vacation or whatnot. Now I always have 'something'. Plus, I have about 2 years of nic stored just in case! :laugh:

    I had not so great results the first attempt at DIY and bought all my liquid for a couple years. The past year I got back into DIY when I got tired of constantly ordering one thing or another.

    eh, doubt Id change my mind about it, there wouldnt be a reason to...I buy way more juice than I vape, I probably have a good 40-50 bottles, and of that I have about 5-10 of them in the rotation. I always have surplus, Im actually trying to give away juices I dont care for and just dump some because I have ones I really like and vape those and never vape the average ok juices, or the unvapeable stuff like MBV...compared to alot of people here I dont vape alot. Vaping kind of gives me a headache and makes me feel nervous and on edge if I do too much. If I fill a 3ml vivinova and that'll last me about a week or more. The money I spend on vaping is pocket change. And I dont know how to DIY and dont want to learn or be bothered with it, there are people that are good at it that I can buy from for cheap and so I have no reason to start doing that, know what I mean jelly bean?
     

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    Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like...your opinion man:D

    I like what some of the vendors are doing and I personally dont find it hard on my pockets at all to pay someone else to make my juice for me. If you feel what youre mixing up at home is as good as 5pawns, or AiV or HHV or what have you, then that makes sense for you I guess. Im not interested in trying to mix up juice, and even the "expensive" juices are cheap soooo...Ill keep buying them from vendors, thx tho

    The most expensive juice Ive found so far is 5 pawns, and its 27 bux for 30ml. It takes me around 2 months to vape 30 ml. thats around 14 bux a month. 3 bux a week. Im not homeless or jobless or anything, why would I be worried about spending 3 bux a week? I spent around $60 a week on cigarettes, ejuice is nothing, seriously, I dont get the DIY cheerleading.

    I go through 8 to 10 ml a day, so ummm... I'd rather drive a focus all day than stare at the lambo in the garage. My opinion. :D

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    Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like...your opinion man:D

    I like what some of the vendors are doing and I personally dont find it hard on my pockets at all to pay someone else to make my juice for me. If you feel what youre mixing up at home is as good as 5pawns, or AiV or HHV or what have you, then that makes sense for you I guess. Im not interested in trying to mix up juice, and even the "expensive" juices are cheap soooo...Ill keep buying them from vendors, thx tho

    The most expensive juice Ive found so far is 5 pawns, and its 27 bux for 30ml. It takes me around 2 months to vape 30 ml. thats around 14 bux a month. 3 bux a week. Im not homeless or jobless or anything, why would I be worried about spending 3 bux a week? I spent around $60 a week on cigarettes, ejuice is nothing, seriously, I dont get the DIY cheerleading.

    You don't vape much volume. I'm vaping about 3-4ml a day. That's 90-120 ml/month at that price it's $81-108/month which is more than I spent on RYO smoking. Though $100/month is still much cheaper than buying packs of analogues, I as spending $50 while smoking 1.5 packs a day.

    My girlfriend is starting this vaping adventure with me, so that's juice for her as well. Add 40-60 ml/month. I'm trying to get my 65 y/o mother off the analogues, I'll be making her juice for her as well... add another 60+ mil/month... this .... adds up quick!
     

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    Well, the DIY crowd just appealed strongly to my miserly wallet. $75 from flavor-shack for enough DIY supplies to make 120 ml in any combo of 10 flavors, including bottles, syringes, sweetner and such.
    Damn! One week off the sticks and I'm diving in head first, right to the deep-end!!! :vapor:
    I never did finish that order... I went to RTS instead and got 360 ml and the same accessories for the same price. I think this may be my DIY store!
     

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    I will say that one should be careful not to fall into the trap of "if it is inexpensive, it must be low quality." I like wine. I know my wines. I have had some very, very expensive wines. I also am honest with my tastebuds. There are some *absolutely fabulous* wines out there at very reasonable prices. Just because a bottle clocks in at $60 a bottle, it does not necessarily follow it is a *great* wine. I have had many wines for under $20 a bottle that are very good.

    It would be fun to do some blind taste tastes with e-juices. I think the results might be a bit surprising.
     
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