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See, that depends on what they intend to do to "find out"....

Option 1: Ask a scientist to read that study, listen to said scientist, and calm the :censored: down.
If they choose this, it'll be back in days.

Option 2: Source new ingredients and/or send them out for quick and dirty testing.
Months (and expensive, and likely won't give us any valuable information that we don't already have, resulting in a "vape with caution because we don't know anything about this" disclaimer).

Option 3: Reformulate.
Months.

Option 4: Commission another study and wait for hard data.
Years and years and YEARS. And VERY expensive.

I love MBV, I truly do, but the vibe they're putting out of "we're going to do.... further things.... (like what?) and bring them back unless we find something wrong (how are you planning to test to see if you find anything?)" again proves that they hit the panic button on this one, and they're not really sure what's *next*.

Hard to say. I asked them for an ETA. We'll see what they say. If it were motor oil I could tell ya. lol Blackstone Labs takes a couple weeks or so to get the results back. I've already had my freak-out about it... I've decided if they don't have either of those in stock when I can order again then I will try some of the Pumpkin Spice that you like... If that's out of stock then I have no clue. I really do not want to spend time and money experimenting with other vendors again considering I just barely found MBV and Nicoticket, but I guess I will if I have to.

UPDATE: The only thing they will say is that they are in discussions with management and to remain optimistic..... They are looking at several options. No ETA given.
 
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if stick buns isn't back for black Friday, butterscotch is a good choice, Bavarian cream might do it for ya too - the Bav cream goes REALLY well half and half with caramel coffee if you're into the coffee juices.
What do you have in stock for combining stuff?

Ooh, I forgot about bavarian cream. Still have about 3/4 of a 30ml bottle of that left. I went through a 30ml bottle waiting to have the cash to put in my first order for Sticky Bun, so I burned out on it for a while, but it's been long enough now that I could vape it again. What I've got now has been steeping for a month, too, so it should be just right. Don't have any caramel coffee, but I've got some cafe coffee around, plus a couple of coffee vapes from other vendors, so I'll experiment a little with those + bavarian cream and see what happens :) Thanks!

and after a day out without my stick buns and cinnamon roll.. I'm all set to sign a waver.. yes.. I am aware of the so called dangers being investigated and yes.. I feel competent enough to make my own health choices

I hear you. I'd be a lot more calm about this if I had more time to contingency plan. I plan my orders to the nth degree all month, so having this happen *now* is making me nuts. In 24 hours, I've had to get a cart ready to go at another vendor (for an emergency backup plan if sticky bun is still gone *and* pumpkin spice is still oos), and my cart at MBV is now distressingly empty by comparison, without pumpkin spice *or* sticky bun to build around. I know it sounds ridiculous, but I've learned to do "luxuries" at exactly midnight on payday, because if I wait, my tiny "luxuries" budget gets *eaten* toward the end of the month when we're all waiting for payday (usually literally - groceries).... so if I budget out what I have to spare to the *penny* and get that order in the second the money is there... which requires knowing what I want *well* ahead of time. Having it happen in November is even worse because some of my "luxuries" budget is already shifted to groceries (Thanksgiving). If this had happened a week ago, I'd be disappointed, but I'd've had time to re-figure everything. As it is.... ack.

I'll figure it out, it's just more stress than I was planning on.


I love your kind of one track mind, Doug. I think I saw that Indian HIV study back when I was taking a refresher's course on HIV/AIDS. If it's the one I'm thinking of, it's..... ahem.... interesting. By which I mean "oh dear god peer-review, peer-review!!" and "This is why studies should not be so easily accessible!" :)
 

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Dudes got bot software running... I just went back and now all of the posts have been liked by me.

Well, isn't that odd. Me too. Buts it in a separate bar below the other likes which is somewhat odd by itself. I hadn't even noticed until y'all mentioned it. I just very attentive that way.

I like being liked :)

just an image though, no sourcery here lol
 

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Sean.. ya might think about either sugar cookie or Johnny chimpo in lieu of SB. I haven't tried the sugar cookie but Johnny Chimpo is sweet like SB and it's the only juice so far that has a fruit in it that I like

Thanks Opal, will add those to the possibilities list.
 

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Been vaping Sticky Bun like a boss all day :vapor:

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