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The 555 is one that I will absolutely order again, it took about 6 weeks of steeping, but it is totally worth it. 555 with hazlenut & just a little peanut butter is a really great mix.

I believe it. I foresee some experimentation in my future... got plenty of time to plan while it steeps!

I was so looking forward to my vapemail from MBV today. Routing said out for delivery. Yay! Waited all day, but the mailman didn't show. Had to leave at 5:30 for a holiday party, still no mail. I just got home and checked the mailbox, thinking maybe he was just running late. No mail. Checked the tracking and it said Note Left at 4:59 pm. No they didn't! There was no note, and my vapemail is always put in the box at the end of the driveway. The USPS has never left a note before! And I was home! It wasn't a large package; only three 30ml bottles (blue moo, moo juice and rainbow sherbet). I've had larger packages just put in my mailbox with the rest of the mail. Plus my dogs go apesh$t whenever someone comes up the driveway. I wonder if he just didn't deliver all the mail today and marked it as left note to cover his ..... :mad:

Ugh, sorry about that, Kat. Hope you get it Monday.
 

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Not up to me what model she gets as of now. She just wants the ego. I'm hoping that I can get her swapped over using it and then if she gets to a place where she wants better gear I'll buy it no questions asked. Evod or protank mini? I guess I'm looking for something about the same diameter as the typical 650 battery.

Iclear 16's are my choice with an ego. They fit nicely without needing a beauty ring, are easy to fill, clean and replace coils, and give a fantastic vape. Plus I prefer top coils. ;)
 

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555 is one that I just never enjoyed. Got a bottle of 555 Menthol from June this year, still don't like it. Plus it's 24mg, I'm using 12mg currently but considering 6mg. Would be happy to trade it away if anyone wants it :)
Just can't handle the menthol, maybe someone will take it.
 

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Gotta love those Amazon freebies. I'll never be able to read all the ones I've downloaded. Makes you wonder how the authors make a living though

If it's only free for a limited time, it works like any other such promo - the authors are hoping that exposure will translate to sales down the road.

The ones that are permanently free though, the answer is much simpler - they're not making a living at all.

In the past 15 years or so, the internet has revolutionized publishing. Some of that is a good thing; great authors that otherwise wouldn't have had any exposure can skip the whole agent/publisher rigamarole and put their work out there almost immediately (anyone can list an e-book, takes about five minutes to do). There's a bad side too though - any eejit with a keyboard now thinks they can write, and they're *all* "writing"... and then self publishing. The signal to noise ratio has become immense. That makes it harder than ever to get an agent.

Not too long ago, if you didn't have an agent, you had to take the time and trouble to print copies of your manuscript and mail them to the carefully chosen agents (and maybe a few publishers) you'd researched at the library, and then wait your turn in the slush pile.

Nowadays, there is no more slush pile - the entire world has become a giant slushpile of every would-be author who thinks owning a computer makes him F. Scott Fitzgerald. Agents are bombarded from all sides with unsolicited manuscripts that would-be authors mass email with a few clicks, or print off on their home computer and then mail to every agent they can google up.

That situation leaves a lot of authors with no other route but self-publishing... which is also the same route that all those people clogging up the slush pile take.

That leaves a huge glut of e-books in the market, which means you'd better price competitively if you want anyone to bother downloading... and what's a more competitive price than free?

The lucky ones will get noticed by an agent or a publisher that way (but good luck trying to get noticed in a sea of self published e-books) and maybe get paid for future efforts. That's the hope of many, anyway.

In the meantime, the craft of writing gets further and further devalued, and those of us who are paid to write are continually asked to "justify" why we should be paid. After all, why should they pay a great writer when there's a ton of desperate writers (some of them equally great) so ready and willing to work for free?

I'm not against free e-books, by the way. I think they're great. It's just frustrating that self-publishing has led to so many writers not being able to make a living.
 

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If it's only free for a limited time, it works like any other such promo - the authors are hoping that exposure will translate to sales down the road.

The ones that are permanently free though, the answer is much simpler - they're not making a living at all.

In the past 15 years or so, the internet has revolutionized publishing. Some of that is a good thing; great authors that otherwise wouldn't have had any exposure can skip the whole agent/publisher rigamarole and put their work out there almost immediately (anyone can list an e-book, takes about five minutes to do). There's a bad side too though - any eejit with a keyboard now thinks they can write, and they're *all* "writing"... and then self publishing. The signal to noise ratio has become immense. That makes it harder than ever to get an agent.

Not too long ago, if you didn't have an agent, you had to take the time and trouble to print copies of your manuscript and mail them to the carefully chosen agents (and maybe a few publishers) you'd researched at the library, and then wait your turn in the slush pile.

Nowadays, there is no more slush pile - the entire world has become a giant slushpile of every would-be author who thinks owning a computer makes him F. Scott Fitzgerald. Agents are bombarded from all sides with unsolicited manuscripts that would-be authors mass email with a few clicks, or print off on their home computer and then mail to every agent they can google up.

That situation leaves a lot of authors with no other route but self-publishing... which is also the same route that all those people clogging up the slush pile take.

That leaves a huge glut of e-books in the market, which means you'd better price competitively if you want anyone to bother downloading... and what's a more competitive price than free?

The lucky ones will get noticed by an agent or a publisher that way (but good luck trying to get noticed in a sea of self published e-books) and maybe get paid for future efforts. That's the hope of many, anyway.

In the meantime, the craft of writing gets further and further devalued, and those of us who are paid to write are continually asked to "justify" why we should be paid. After all, why should they pay a great writer when there's a ton of desperate writers (some of them equally great) so ready and willing to work for free?

I'm not against free e-books, by the way. I think they're great. It's just frustrating that self-publishing has led to so many writers not being able to make a living.
That tells me a lot. There is a bunch of stuff in this brave new world that just leaves us old geezers bewildered. If it gets much beyond Owen Wister or Zane Grey it.s probably over my head anyway. Although the original Foundation Trilogy was something I did thoroughly enjoy.
 

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If it's only free for a limited time, it works like any other such promo - the authors are hoping that exposure will translate to sales down the road.

The ones that are permanently free though, the answer is much simpler - they're not making a living at all.

In the past 15 years or so, the internet has revolutionized publishing. Some of that is a good thing; great authors that otherwise wouldn't have had any exposure can skip the whole agent/publisher rigamarole and put their work out there almost immediately (anyone can list an e-book, takes about five minutes to do). There's a bad side too though - any eejit with a keyboard now thinks they can write, and they're *all* "writing"... and then self publishing. The signal to noise ratio has become immense. That makes it harder than ever to get an agent.

Not too long ago, if you didn't have an agent, you had to take the time and trouble to print copies of your manuscript and mail them to the carefully chosen agents (and maybe a few publishers) you'd researched at the library, and then wait your turn in the slush pile.

Nowadays, there is no more slush pile - the entire world has become a giant slushpile of every would-be author who thinks owning a computer makes him F. Scott Fitzgerald. Agents are bombarded from all sides with unsolicited manuscripts that would-be authors mass email with a few clicks, or print off on their home computer and then mail to every agent they can google up.

That situation leaves a lot of authors with no other route but self-publishing... which is also the same route that all those people clogging up the slush pile take.

That leaves a huge glut of e-books in the market, which means you'd better price competitively if you want anyone to bother downloading... and what's a more competitive price than free?

The lucky ones will get noticed by an agent or a publisher that way (but good luck trying to get noticed in a sea of self published e-books) and maybe get paid for future efforts. That's the hope of many, anyway.

In the meantime, the craft of writing gets further and further devalued, and those of us who are paid to write are continually asked to "justify" why we should be paid. After all, why should they pay a great writer when there's a ton of desperate writers (some of them equally great) so ready and willing to work for free?

I'm not against free e-books, by the way. I think they're great. It's just frustrating that self-publishing has led to so many writers not being able to make a living.

Very insightful, as usual :) In this case, the second book in the series is $3.99 lol
 

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Very insightful, as usual :) In this case, the second book in the series is $3.99 lol

Smart author. :) I have a friend who *did* finally find a publishing company that way, and she makes a decent living now in the e-book world.

The bad part? Took her ten years of self-publishing to see a dime, and she'll never see a penny from all the stuff she published in those ten years.

The worst part? Every single one of her e-books was pirated within 12 hours of release, and pirated copies of each one of her books outnumber sold copies (at the wallet crushing price of $2.99) by at *least* 20 to 1. But that's the reality of the e-book world right now... and it's why I refuse to publish any of my magnum opus in e-book form. Other stuff, sure... but my "baby" is going on dead trees or staying on my hard drive. ;)
 

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The lucky ones will get noticed by an agent or a publisher that way (but good luck trying to get noticed in a sea of self published e-books) and maybe get paid for future efforts. That's the hope of many, anyway.

That's similar to free music downloads.
Blue Moon Harem plays on WAAF sometimes but only the Local Artists radio show.
I made copies of their first CD when it was 95% mastered for them to promote to stations nationwide.
That was about 13 years ago and they're still local to New England, New York and basically The Northeast.
They did some National gigs but make their living around Beantown and The Apple for the most part.

They could have gained Classic Rock National recognition IMO with their first CD but...

Here's a proshot but crappy copy of one of the weaker songs from their 1st CD.
No synths, all guitar sounds. That's my buddy Demetri on guitar.

Vaping Blue Moo and playing Blue Moon Harem :)



Singer Biography

I took this pic and schkizzzed it in Photoshop lol I just found it in their gallery.

rs5.jpg
 
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Seanchai

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That's similar to free music downloads.
Blue Moon Harem plays on WAAF sometimes but only the Local Artists radio show.
I made copies of their first CD when it was 95% mastered for them to promote to stations nationwide.
That was about 8 years ago and they're still local to New England, New York and basically The Northeast.
They did some National gigs but make their living around Beantown and The Apple for the most part.

They could have gained Classic Rock National recognition IMO with their first CD but...

Here's a proshot but crappy copy of one of the weaker songs from their 1st CD.
No synths, all guitar sounds. That's my buddy Demetri on guitar.

Vaping Blue Moo and playing Blue Moon Harem :)



Singer Biography

I took this pic and schkizzzed it in Photoshop lol I just found it in their gallery.

rs5.jpg


Good stuff, thanks for posting it.

It's quite similiar to the music business in terms of trying to get noticed - the main difference is that the majority of people agree that being a musician is a *skill* that not everyone is blessed with, and that thus warrants some kind of payment. It's often crappy payment - you can't make a living on tips and free beer - but it's *something*. Busk a street corner for a few hours and you won't pay your rent, but you'll probably eat that day. There's no equivalent for writing... if I had a nickel for every time just in the past year someone asked me to work for free, I'd have the rent money - no joke. If I had a nickel for every time I've *actually* written/edited for free, for someone else, at the expense of my own stuff (and often at the expense of my sanity), I'd have enough for a substantial down payment on a house.

Needless to say, I don't work for free very often anymore. But charging *anything* makes me a bit of a social pariah in the writing world, because there are plenty of writers who *will* work for free. Till that batch burns out, makes the same choice I did, and the *next* batch decides to write for free.
 
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