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Seanchai

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There is a lot of confusion surrounding batteries. For example, I'm sure it's bad, but I never let my 18650's go below 3.9V, so they never get a full discharge cycle. I have tried in the past to study up on what best practices are, but between conflicting info, and just plain wrong info found in various locations, I just gave up. If I have to buy a new ~$8 18650 every few months, so be it.

Generally, with the size batteries we use for vaping, any less-than-ideal battery practices will have a negligible effect on the overall lifespan of your battery. I honed my practices back when giant li-ions were the standard for power wheelchairs (we're slowly moving away from those now), and ideal battery maintenance meant the difference between getting six months out of your power chair's batteries and having to ship the whole 300lb monster back to the manufacturer (local guys won't touch *any* component on the chair if it's under manufacturer warranty) vs. getting a year and a half out of it and being able to call the local guys... and it also meant the difference between being able to nurse your dying chair home, or having it die unceremoniously on the sidewalk. ;)

(edited to add): By "less than ideal" I'm referring to the present discussion re: the nitty gritty of how and when and how much to charge... which is not the same as *bad* battery practices, like charging naked li-ions unattended or the like. Obviously, being *careless* with li-ions is dangerous... but not being sure exactly how much to charge them or exactly when is the best time is not likely to have an *appreciable* effect on your overall battery lifespan, given the relatively small size of the batteries we're talking about. Probably an unnecessary clarification for this thread, but there it is anyway. :)
 
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There is a lot of confusion surrounding batteries. For example, I'm sure it's bad, but I never let my 18650's go below 3.9V, so they never get a full discharge cycle. I have tried in the past to study up on what best practices are, but between conflicting info, and just plain wrong info found in various locations, I just gave up. If I have to buy a new ~$8 18650 every few months, so be it.

I only have cheapo batteries atm but I do not let them get down past 3.5. I too am unsure of best practice so I figured out that around 8-10 hours gets me to 3.5 so I recharge.
 

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and I'm back.. minus the problem tooth.. big ole hunk of gauze in the mouth.. numb but not drooling (top numb) - small ice pack for my face.. good to go.

vaping is a little challenging right now.. closed teeth and all... but I'm managing ;)

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I didn't try the garlic soup. i havent' really even been hungry :/ gotta make something today. i make a good veggie soup, but my bf hates it LOl

so.. ya call it medicine soup.. tell him he can't have any and he won't like it and he'll probably rebel and decide to try it and like it.
 

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so.. ya call it medicine soup.. tell him he can't have any and he won't like it and he'll probably rebel and decide to try it and like it.

Typical guy........tell him he can't have or do something, and guess what !!!! That's what he wants the most. :)
 

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Generally, with the size batteries we use for vaping, any less-than-ideal battery practices will have a negligible effect on the overall lifespan of your battery. I honed my practices back when giant li-ions were the standard for power wheelchairs (we're slowly moving away from those now), and ideal battery maintenance meant the difference between getting six months out of your power chair's batteries and having to ship the whole 300lb monster back to the manufacturer (local guys won't touch *any* component on the chair if it's under manufacturer warranty) vs. getting a year and a half out of it and being able to call the local guys... and it also meant the difference between being able to nurse your dying chair home, or having it die unceremoniously on the sidewalk. ;)

(edited to add): By "less than ideal" I'm referring to the present discussion re: the nitty gritty of how and when and how much to charge... which is not the same as *bad* battery practices, like charging naked li-ions unattended or the like. Obviously, being *careless* with li-ions is dangerous... but not being sure exactly how much to charge them or exactly when is the best time is not likely to have an *appreciable* effect on your overall battery lifespan, given the relatively small size of the batteries we're talking about. Probably an unnecessary clarification for this thread, but there it is anyway. :)

Absolutely :) Battery safety is not something to skimp on. Of course, If I had a need for a large expensive battery like a power chairs, I would learn a lot more about the intricacies of it :)
 

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for any other MVPers too, do you charge the battery until the light goes out, or do you just charge it until it hits 4.4volts???? (and of course, by 4.4 volts i meant 4.2 :facepalm:)

Yes.

Meaning I charge it until either the light goes out or I get tired of dealing with the cord. lol.
 

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I only have cheapo batteries atm but I do not let them get down past 3.5. I too am unsure of best practice so I figured out that around 8-10 hours gets me to 3.5 so I recharge.

The only reason I won't let mine get below 3.9V is because I use them strictly on a mechanical mod. When I was using a Vamo, I just used it until the Vamo said I couldn't anymore :)
 

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you are a big puffer, obviously. mine go over 1000 and reset

<minipuffer

i think so too, but i'm using large tanks and near zero nic. i'd be thrilled with 1000 puffs! i think i'm going to get some 100% nic juice and put a few drops in each tanks. maybe i'll stop hitting them so hard and maybe even slow down the chain vaping.

the aspires vivi nova bdc suck the batteries as much as protank 2s, but their performance and flavor is so much better that i'm happy with them. the coils are good to go after a soak.

and apparently, i ordered 4 more yesterday! :?:

they are worth it, though. all the taste of a doulbe carto with the ease of a bcc! just 2 drops in the top and they are primed. anyvape makes a new davide that is bdc, but you can also take out the middle sleeve and use bcc coils in them. that IS a nice take, but the aluminum cover over the glass vivi novas helps them get warm and stay warm. so...i give the edge to those.
 

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Anybody else get movie theater fish as a sample? Thoughts?

Also I in ally watched SOA season finale. I really have no clue what's coming next at this point.

i get movie theater popcorn, you know, when i go to the movies! :p

sorry, no i haven't.

i just forget to mention that discount vapers is having another contest in their thread. i get my coils and some other stuff from them. they are a close second to MBV for customer service, imo.
 

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hmmm...i was under the impression that lithium ion batteries last longer if you keep the charge between 40 and 90%.

i don't mind charging them all the way, i'm just curious as to whether or not that effects battery life.

your post implies the opposite of what i read. but it's not like i'm a stranger to confusion! ;)

Lithium ion chemistry prefers partial discharge to deep discharge, so it's best to avoid taking the battery all the way down to zero. Since lithium-ion chemistry does not have a "memory", you do not harm the battery pack with a partial discharge. If the voltage of a lithium-ion cell drops below a certain level, it's ruined.

Lithium-ion batteries age. They only last two to three years, even if they are sitting on a shelf unused. So do not "avoid using" the battery with the thought that the battery pack will last five years. It won't. Also, if you are buying a new battery pack, you want to make sure it really is new. If it has been sitting on a shelf in the store for a year, it won't last very long. Manufacturing dates are important.

Avoid heat, which degrades the batteries.

Some information about these batteries.
 

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Anybody else get movie theater fish as a sample? Thoughts?

Also I in ally watched SOA season finale. I really have no clue what's coming next at this point.

I didn't get it as a sample - I bought it because GF has a thing for Swedish Fish.

I think it's pretty awesome. Didn't need to steep, imo.
 

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the aspires vivi nova bdc suck the batteries as much as protank 2s, but their performance and flavor is so much better that i'm happy with them. the coils are good to go after a soak.

and apparently, i ordered 4 more yesterday! :?:

they are worth it, though. all the taste of a doulbe carto with the ease of a bcc! just 2 drops in the top and they are primed. anyvape makes a new davide that is bdc, but you can also take out the middle sleeve and use bcc coils in them. that IS a nice take, but the aluminum cover over the glass vivi novas helps them get warm and stay warm. so...i give the edge to those.

Pleased to see you like the Aspire BDC. I was going to try those, but after checking my budget.......I am way way way way
waaay over for vaping supplies for December,January and prolly February. :(

maybe a xmas sale will make me pull the trigger ??
 

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Pleased to see you like the Aspire BDC. I was going to try those, but after checking my budget.......I am way way way way
waaay over for vaping supplies for December,January and prolly February. :(

maybe a xmas sale will make me pull the trigger ??

stormy vapors has 'em cheap:

Aspire Vivi Nova-S BDC Glassomizer

10OFF coupon.

i just need the green one now! :ohmy:
 

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battery story.....

i accidentally pulled the top off one of my ego's and the wires came loose. took it to work to see if any of the geeks there could fix it. well, this guy had it for like 2 weeks and i had almost forgotten about it when he sprung the "fixed" battery on me. he was so proud, puffing his chest out and stuff.

i pushed the button but no light, so i figured it must just be dead and i would charge it when i got home. a few hours later i took it out of my purse at home and OH MY GOD it burned my fingers! the entire thing was like a hot coal. i immediately took it outside, put it in a metal garbage can and closed the lid. not sure if it would have blown up in my purse, but made me a little more careful of battery care and handling from now on.

oh, and i never told the guy. it would have shattered his fragile ego. ;)
 
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