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To let go is easy when it's in the past. When it's the present and you've reached a point where it is always bad, "letting go" sets yourself up for getting hurt again. So you find a balance. You find a way not to let it poison all the other wonderful parts of your life but you stay on guard when you cannot avoid an encounter with the poison's source. It's as close as I can get to letting go.

I moved out of state. That said, I will be calling them this weekend and I dread it as things have degenerated a great deal as many here know.

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Happy to report I'm not noticing the flower-y taste in the rainbow sherbet anymore. I think that may have just been a perceptual issue caused by simply changing flavors from the peach/pineapple which is all I've had so far. I really love it, will probably order some sweet cream to keep on hand as a mixer. And to think, had it not been for this thread, I probably wouldn't have noticed it at MBV for a very long time.

I think more people prefer whipped cream over sweet cream as a mixer. Sweet cream I believe has a buttery taste to it
 

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What's the mudslide taste like? Haven't tried it. What flavor do you get?
I'm not sure I'd like mocha - some I do and some I don't.

Yes, inquiring minds want to know. I am collecting information on chocolate/cocoa/mocha flavors.

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Yeah wondering if it would be something I'd enjoy in higher nic for those morning
wake me ups when ya'all are picking on me for not using my Alt keys.

Awww :(

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I moved out of state. That said, I will be calling them this weekend and I dread it as things have degenerated a great deal as many here know.

Sent from my Astromech in a galaxy far, far away. The force is with me. so is Mr. chicken.

Are things going any better? I haven't seen an update (but not in here all the time) since your
mom was in jail.
 

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Whew, step away to take care of some stuff and get a quick nap and the thread explodes again... consider everything "liked," guys, I'd be here all night clicking like buttons otherwise, and I've got other stuff to do! :)

Can I spend Christmas with your family instead of mine? I've spent the last 36 hours being verbally assaulted by my mother. It's how she shows her excitement over my coming visit.

You are absolutely *welcome* to (and I know you're kidding, but I'm serious - if anyone ever does need somewhere to stay for christmas and you can get yourselves here, we have a couch and good food and we're nice people to hang out with. We do have a dark sense of humor and we're far from perfect and what we've got is nothing fancy and rarely spotlessly kept... but we welcome all comers.

It's a cultural thing. In ancient Ireland, the domiciles each had a long bench outside for passing travelers. The *second* greatest insult one person could visit upon another was to not invite a passing traveler inside for food and shelter... the *greatest* insult was to be a passing traveler, and sit upon their bench but refuse the offer of food or shelter and starve/freeze oneself to death outside.

That's where the Irish version of hunger-striking as political protest comes from, and it's why most Irish hunger-strikers went on hunger-strike to the death... they were housed in British prisons, so culturally, they were starving themselves to death on Britain's "bench" so as to curse the British government for what they saw as the unfair treatment of the Irish in general and Irish political prisoners in particular. (That's not to say the Irish invented hunger-striking. Just that for them, hunger-striking to the death has a certain special significance.)

Re: How your mother shows her excitement - I come from a family of rampant alcoholics (no one who lives in this house anymore, thank god), all of whom are "mean drunks". Same goes for my mother, who raised her younger siblings because her parents were both incapacitated by noon... and for some reason, I appear to be a magnet for people with various forms of mental illness who are in no way interested in treatment. Long story made shorter, I've been there and lived with those kinds of people full time, and the worst part for me was the wondering if maybe *I* was the one who was irrational, because people who are that manipulative are great at making you think *you're* the problem!

I hate cutting people out of my life, because it feels like giving up on them and I don't like giving up on anyone... but I've had to cut all ties with three different people who fit that description in one way or another, because all associating with them was doing for me was making *me* unable to function. I still miss those people, but I think I probably miss the relationship I *wished* we could've had, because the relationship we *actually* had wasn't healthy for anyone.

You'll be in my thoughts. Hang in there.


I'd suggest peanut butter and also suggest root beer.

Keep in mind root beer is a tank cracker, so probably not the best choice for a new vaper unless they have a glass/pyrex/metal tank and are willing to remember to use it! Shame, cause it's a great flavor.

Are things going any better?

Seconding this... how are you keeping, Doug?
 

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Are things going any better? I haven't seen an update (but not in here all the time) since your
mom was in jail.

She is trying to use going to the doctor as leverage to force me into her delusion and I have refused. We haven't spoken in weeks.

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A friend of mine wants a coffee vape but I haven't tried any so I need some good recommendations. Her birthday is in March so I figure if I get it now it'll have enough steep time.


Edit: Just realized I'm 6 month stinky free!

Congrats! What kind of coffee does she prefer? Cafe coffee is a good black coffee vape. Caramel coffee is good if she prefers hers a little sweeter. I haven't tried mocha yet, but a few people have said that one's really nice given enough steep time. Hazelnut coffee also has quite a few fans iirc. (I'm falling behind on my coffe vape sampling, have to keep the parental unit in Sticky Bun. ;) )
 

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A friend of mine wants a coffee vape but I haven't tried any so I need some good recommendations. Her birthday is in March so I figure if I get it now it'll have enough steep time.


Edit: Just realized I'm 6 month stinky free!

Congratulations, that is great. Keep going.
Sorry, can't help on a coffee. Just tried my BF cafe coffee today, jury still out. That is 3 weeks, gonna sit it back & try again in 2 more.
 

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A friend of mine wants a coffee vape but I haven't tried any so I need some good recommendations. Her birthday is in March so I figure if I get it now it'll have enough steep time.


Edit: Just realized I'm 6 month stinky free!


Congrats! I haven't tried it yet, but have some caramel coffee steeping and it smells
devine. If it vapes anything like it smells I will be one happy girl.
 

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I'm so sorry and i can so relate. Everything Seanchai just said was so true also. My relationship with my own mother had gotten to be so *toxic*, which is the best and only word I could use to describe it, that I had to cut her out of my life. We hadn't spoken for 6 months when she called me to tell me she had pancreatic cancer. For the next 3 years she used that terrible disease to manipulate the whole family into rallying around her. When she lived longer than anyone thought she would, the drugs she had to take and her own sick personality drove everyone away. I tried so hard to be there for her and to be the good daughter but never quite achieved that in her eyes....as no one ever could. Things came to a head one visit and I had to release myself from her once again. It was a year ago this last Thanksgiving that I finally saw her again, after not talking to her for a whole year. For some reason I saw the frailty of her and how close she was to really being gone from my life forever. I was able to somehow open up my heart to her and forgive her for never being the mother I deserved and wanted. I was able to make it home to KC a week before she passed and see her awake and alert one more time in the hospice house. Her eyes filled with tears and she held me like she never had. That was the last time she was awake. She passed a week later. I share this story because I believe there truly are *toxic* relationships, and oftentimes with the people we are the most bonded to because of their being family members or best friends. Sometimes it is in our best interest to step away from those relationships to preserve our own peace and sanity. And sometimes, at the end, forgiveness happens. My mother was not a great mother. The harm she caused me is something I will be working through for a long time. Maybe what I'm missing now is the idea of the mother I wish she would have been. All I know is that I'm not angry anymore and I'm free. All I feel for her at the end of it all is love, and that is a gift. There are no mistakes, only life experiences. Mine have made me what I am today. I don't quite know why I just shared all of that....maybe it's the holidays....and how close to the surface feelings are right now. I'm stone cold sober, I swear. Thanks for letting me vent. And to Doug, and any of you who are struggling with these kinds of relationships, I wish you peace and freedom from any guilt you may feel, and the strength to do exactly what is right for you! Big hugs!!

She is trying to use going to the doctor as leverage to force me into her delusion and I have refused. We haven't spoken in weeks.

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Congrats on your 6 monthiversary!! Half a year!! woot woot!!! I have always like Morning Vape. It's great with whipped cream or sweet cream. It's coffee with kind of a cherry note to it....very tasty.

A friend of mine wants a coffee vape but I haven't tried any so I need some good recommendations. Her birthday is in March so I figure if I get it now it'll have enough steep time.


Edit: Just realized I'm 6 month stinky free!
 

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Keep in mind root beer is a tank cracker, so probably not the best choice for a new vaper unless they have a glass/pyrex/metal tank and are willing to remember to use it! Shame, cause it's a great flavor.

Thank you for the reminder that root beer can be a tank cracker. I have no idea what equipment she has (other than 'a beginner kit') but better safe than sorry.
 
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