East Coast Tobacco is a flavor from MBV, bud. And I contacted MBV. They wanted me to pay to send the juices back so they could "test" them. No thanks.
On the subject of their top sellers being CONSTANTLY out. I just went to ECB and made a large order. Nothing... Absolutely nothing was out of stock. And with the %20 off code prices were actually cheaper than MBV. By pennies, but yeah. They also had Protank coils which are also constantly out at MBV. And for $2 cheaper.
Everyone is entitled to an opinion. I believe MBV is WAY over rated and can't handle the business surge they have received. So they have inexperienced mixers sending out crappy juice and they can't get their most popular flavors in to meet demand. It's pretty obvious.
But I will leave it at that.
Well, the fact of the matter is that I happen to agree with you on the shipping back, if there is an issue with a juice that should be handled and not come out of your pocket.
As for MBV being out of stock of flavors, that was brought up and they have been working on it. Again, taste is very subjective as is everything else consumable or not. As for the East Coast Tobacco, I don't do a lot of tobacco other then 555 menthol, Chocolate Tobacco and Vanilla Tobacco.
And I did state everyone is entitle to their opinion, however there are better ways to handle these things. You have every right to believe that MBV is as you say Way over rated, however I believe the are way under rated in many areas, again being redundant, no one is going too like everything from every vendor, they are numerous vendor's out there that are touted as being the best around etc, etc, I have tried the so called Designer Juices, the ones that you have to wait for etc, etc. and honestly very few impressed me and it's not like I don't have a clue to flavor, how mixing is done etc, I have a small lab in my home where I actually steam distill essential oils that I like and have been dealing with Pure Essential oils for many years and sold on eBay, so I know a few things about supply and demand, quality etc. As the old say goes toned down a bit "S**t Happens" you do the best you can and if you have a loyal and understanding following and keep them updated that is the best you can do. I have no idea of how you determined if they have inexperienced mixers, however from what I understand and the way I did my lotion, massage and skin care essential oil blends were from trial and error and the ones that worked were all put in a recipe type of format, had not to be able to follow directions., I know they have had some bumps in the road and I have no problem with them as they have stated openly they are aware of it and taking steps to correct the issues, so I comment them on this fact and cut them slack as they have always done right by me!
I still believe there is a better way to handle any issues someone may have with a particular vendor other then to go around making off the cuff remarks without any real true merit and the know fact that the issues are ones that are on going instead of a slip up here and there. My experience with them has be exemplary and I have no complaints, if I don't like one of their juices well guess what, that's my problems as others due, again taste is subjective, I don't fault anyone for their mistakes but I do expect them to take responsibility for them and from all I have seen is MBV is and has been trying to do that,
If you are not in there and don't actually have a hand on knowledge of the business model and what is actually going on behind the scenes then you don't in reality know what is happening and any statements of it would be misguided and out of place. But again, if there is an issue with an item, yes by all means bring it to the vendors attention, I know I should as hell would. There are proper ways to handle problematic issues.
You mention they are sending out crappy juice, well, for all the ones I got, they have not been crappy and I have order a large number of various juices, so I am not sure where that actually holds true or how many you actually know or crappy, if they are crappy to you, well again, that's your opinion, mine is that they have been sending out crappy juices and again I have many of them, if you are just speaking for yourself, you know your taste and you have the right to think the way you wish, however if that is a global statement then it's without merit as that would mean that you know all the juices they send to everyone is crappy, which in itself is impossible for you to know.
So yes, I will also leave it at that bud.
you're braver than I 
