mtbakervapor

[Bellerine]

I'm sorry but point of fact is that there is a support thread that your type of post would have been more appropriate in.

It's interesting on how someone can perceive those in a particular thread as being as you call it a "Fanboi" or a "fan with a reason" strange comment to say the least.

Do you still not understand the distinction? Not a strange comment at all, though perhaps confusing to you.

Again, the plain fact is that you make off handed comments that are and were better served in the support thread! And don't think that there is not a majority of us that were disappointed that some of their favorite juices were out of stock. However the fact of the matter is that in life and business "Crap Happens" if you wish to be a fair weather customer, that is your choice, but to make positive comments and then at the end of it make statements that you will take your business elsewhere in the same post doesn't show much rational, it's like a threat that if in 24 hours they better have what you want or your going elsewhere, just how do you think that looks. Again, those statements are better served in the support thread wherein the vendor can respond, or perhaps that was your intent! You can post in here all you want and make those comments however that is not going to accomplish anything other then to wonder what the heck your intent or motivation is!

Sorry! My intent was to voice an opinion regarding their stock of juices, which, despite your conflicting claim that it is allowed, is being treated with hostility. I stand by the fanboi designation.
They stated it would all be well by the end of August. Here we are well into September with huge stock issues; this is giving 24 hours in ADDITION to six weeks. Many have already given up and left, I am holding out a last strand of hope because I really do want them to come through.
Their not having half their juice for over a month is absolutely relevant in a thread title MBV in the e-liquid forum.
However, if I am going to address anything directly to the vendor I should do so in a thread in which they can respond. Point received.

And as a side not, everyone in here is well aware of the fact that this in a forum and not a fanboi site, there's that word again, however, did you perhaps take note of the Thread Section Name? We'll I'll be it's "mtbakervapor"!!!

The title of the thread is Mt. Baker Vapor ... so why are thoughts about their juice stock not relevant? Ohh, because you didn't agree with me.

And as you wanted to try and make some point of this being a forum, take into account that there are also other forum sections for both Positive and Negative reviews.

Your closing comments in your initial post just made the post seem more like a threat then anything constructive. We are all aware of the issues, do we like the fact they had issues with stock, NO, but you most certainly don't see a vast majority of us making hollow threats about going else where. Again, this is your choice, your entitled to your opinions as are each and every one of us.

Maybe you don't see similar comments because people are rather ruthlessly attacked if they voice something that isn't glowing here. If I am entitled to it, why then are you bashing me for it. Talk about a lack of rational thought.

You want to stated that those that don't agree with your one sided post have a blind fanaticism going, hmmm, that strange coming from someone who actually made a veiled threat about taking your business else where if this or that isn't in stock in 24 hours. Come on! That reminds me of a child in a store that is being told by their parents they can have this or that and having a hissy fit. I don't know what you expected to accomplish by that post or in fact this follow up post.

I'm sorry, how does blind fanaticism relate to being willing to walk away if bad business continues? Were a child, or anyone, denied promised stock for well over a month I'd think anyone but a fanboi (look, I did it again!) would agree that displaying displeasure and considering taking their business elsewhere would be appropriate.

If you have issues with stock or other issues with the business aspect of them, then by all means take it to where is belongs, in the support thread! How about contacting the vendor themselves, they have e-mail, a phone a support thread, etc.

I have, thanks. Once again, commenting here on their juice stock still seems completely relevant to me.

Again, everyone of us has had things we couldn't get or didn't like but you don't see the majority of people making comments or hollow threats about going somewhere else.

Hmm, I do believe if, after such an extended period of not having half their juices, one hasn't considered looking elsewhere that fanboi designation you love so much is well-earned.
The reception my comment is receiving from you in particular is likely why you don't see such comments more frequently. Most people aren't thick-skinned enough to endure such abuse for voicing their comment with facts on which it is based.

I highly suggest taking your own advise and go make a whiners cult or something. This topic has been beaten to death, it has been addressed by MBV and if you cannot handle what they have stated they were doing to correct the issue, well that's your problem!

I appreciate how welcoming you are of rational, but differing, opinions. It's been an absolute pleasure conversing with such an obviously even-tempered, reasoned individual. Surely nobody should bring up anything you think has been addressed and is no longer deserving of comment, despite its being an ongoing issue.

You mention that other post, not sure if you were referring to mine of another that was made but you know what, yet again, wrong thread. Last I checked the reason for support threads were, oh, lets see, oh yeah, for support, complaints, praise, wants, requests etc.

So before telling someone what a thread is or what they should post, check what you are posting and where, as you stated this is a forum. I ran one for over 10 years so I have some idea of what they are, and to say that others do not or to imply it is insulting!

Oh, how you did several times in this quote, and wrongly? I'm sorry, I was not aware I was in the presence of a forum god. I should be more deferential, shouldn't I? Once again, in an e-liquid forum, thread titled Mt. Baker Baker - I addressed my thoughts on their past and current juice stock problems ... how ridiculous of me!

Done with my RANT for now!

Rant indeed. I'm also done for now. Never let bullies in a crowd intimidate me,, won't start now.

 

[lisancentraltx]

A whole selection - Nicotine Juice - MBV Specialty Flavors - Sour Flavors - Mt Baker Vapor

The only ones I haven't gotten are the Zazzle Dazzle and the Surprise Grape. But, I am not really into the berries or grape flavors.

 

[kelli]

Rant indeed. I'm also done for now. Never let bullies in a crowd intimidate me,, won't start now.

happy now?

 

[Uno mas]

Damn I just realized I once again forgot to ask for a specific flavor for my sample, that's twice in a row CRS is gettin' worse...

 

[DustyZ]

Rant indeed. I'm also done for now. Never let bullies in a crowd intimidate me,, won't start now.

Let me point out you started the post, you posted a RANT yourself and when it was suggested to you that it would be better handled in a Support thread other then whining here, you still had to come back, make another negative comment. Again, if you are not happy with a service then contact them, use the appropriate threads for your concerns.

What you showed was nothing more then veilded threats that if you didn't get what you want you would be going elsewhere, that is really childish. Handle things like an adult and stop preaching to people of what a forum is versus what "fanbois" are, you opened yourself up this this, you started the issue, there was not one person trying to intimidate you, you seem to lack the comprehension that your comments were the ones that were an attempt to intimidate someone by the mention a few times about taking your business elsewhere if you didn't get your way in 24 hours.

Now you want to make a personal attack towards me making statements of being a forum god, no, has nothing to do with that, it's call tact, respect and having some class, but I call them like I see them. Again, it was your post that started the recommendation of that type of post being placed in a more appropriate thread, if that is too hard to understand, well, sorry to hear that you can't see that.

Again, all the issues you have with MBV should be addressed to them and not come off as you are the only one here that has had to deal with not getting what they want when they wanted. Once more, "things happen" either you except that or don't, that is your choice.

No one is trying to intimidate you, but there is a proper format and place for those types of issues. The fact is that this has all been addressed before and the reasons behind it as well, either you accept that or you don't, either you have looked in the right places or didn't, this is why it was stated that these issues would have been better served in the Support threads.

And the fact is, you began the RANT, and yes, I went on a rant myself, the reason being is that all of this has been beaten to death and it's time to move on, get a grip and handle things in the appropriate areas and in a logic manner without making ultimatums.

I'm sorry you can't seem to grasp this and honestly wasn't trying to insight a post war on this topic, but I have seen enough of this in the wrong sections, there is nothing that can be done here that would benefit you, MBV or us by bring up those issues that really need to be discussed with the Vendor!

 

[DustyZ]

happy now?

 

[kelli]

i came across a bottle of blue moo that i've had since march (65/35 24 mg nic). the throat hit is so pronounced that i can barely inhale it. even burns my nostrils if i blow it thru my nose. this is some potent stuff!

 

[DustyZ]

i came across a bottle of blue moo that i've had since march (65/35 24 mg nic). the throat hit is so pronounced that i can barely inhale it. even burns my nostrils if i blow it thru my nose. this is some potent stuff!

Ummm, then don't blow it thru your nose!

 

[vwkitty]

I love how people act as if MBV wants to be out of stock.

 

[kelli]

Ummm, then don't blow it thru your nose!

but...but...i have these cavernous nostrils that i can't let go to waste!

 

[Uno mas]

I am so mad at myself for blowin' the sample request, twice! Well maybe I'll be pleasantly surprised getting something I probably wouldn't have ordered

 

[Uno mas]

Bacon or Pooh maybe

 

[mcol]

I am so mad at myself for blowin' the sample request, twice! Well maybe I'll be pleasantly surprised getting something I probably wouldn't have ordered

The only sample I couldn't take was plum. OMG I would get sick vaping that cr-- ... I mean, juice. I wanted to test the nic theory of killing bugs and there were these ants..........and it works. The cucumber mint I also threw out. I like it and all, but everytime I vaped I got up very dizzy, and I had just switched flavors. Day two and the same results and I blamed the juice. I wanted to test the theory
of nic killing weeds, and ........ well it works. But the cucumber mint wasn't making me sick, I was getting sick already and didn't know it. Sniff.

 

[Bellerine]

Yes, yes, I open myself up to bashing for expressing a different opinion, or one you feel has already been discussed enough. The fact that it continues to be an issue is, apparently, irrelevant.

Mostly that was just repetitive so I'll refrain from responding to all the same points again.

However, I do find having been out of stock of many of their juices for six weeks plus a real issue, especially when an ETA is promised and not delivered. I've asked them why they couldn't get their flavor bases from another vendor, if even temporarily, in order to get customers a product but did not receive an answer to that particular query as yet.

While I enjoy a number of MBV juices (namely their fruity menthol mixes) and, before this enduring issue, good customer service I am nearly out of their flavors I'd relied on and must look for another source. If I knew they had put in place some kind of back up plan to ensure this wouldn't happen again, I may rely on them again. For many vapors, their juice is a serious issue. Running out can mean risking analog use. Reliability is thus an important factor when deciding to patronize a vendor, for me at least.

I believed them when they said all e-liquid would be stocked by the end of August. When it turned out my juices were not back in stock then, or a week later, or even still today, it was surely a cause for concern.

On the up side, I have received suggestions from many about other vendors with tasty juices who don't have such extreme issues keeping their flavors in stock. Thanks!

 

[Uno mas]

The only sample I couldn't take was plum. OMG I would get sick vaping that cr-- ... I mean, juice. I wanted to test the nic theory of killing bugs and there were these ants..........and it works. The cucumber mint I also threw out. I like it and all, but everytime I vaped I got up very dizzy, and I had just switched flavors. Day two and the same results and I blamed the juice. I wanted to test the theory
of nic killing weeds, and ........ well it works. But the cucumber mint wasn't making me sick, I was getting sick already and didn't know it. Sniff.

I got a pretty good wish list of flavors to try goin', which I could have had 2 knocked off as samples, if I get a tobacco or menthol freebie I might have to verify your conclusions, got both weeds and ants

 

[Joie]

question on MBV sweetener......is it really really sweet....I have some other stuff from another vendor that I use...it's ALT cig I think.....is this MBV going to be about the as e? And do I have to let something steep again when I boost with flavoring and sweetener?

about how many drops of sweetener do you use per 10 ml bottle....AND about how many drops of flavoring equals a shot of MVB ?

 

[Stoneface]

And here I thought that the fireworks set off over the Hudson River were the most interesting ones to see tonight. I guess I might have been wrong about that

 

[Joie]

4th of July in Sept. who would have thought

 

[DustyZ]

but...but...i have these cavernous nostrils that i can't let go to waste!

Oh, well in that case, blow away!

 

[Uno mas]

question on MBV sweetener......is it really really sweet....I have some other stuff from another vendor that I use...it's ALT cig I think.....is this MBV going to be about the as e? And do I have to let something steep again when I boost with flavoring and sweetener?

about how many drops of sweetener do you use per 10 ml bottle....AND about how many drops of flavoring equals a shot of MVB ?

I don't use a "sweetener" too often in my DIY, generally EM at 2% or less depending on how sweet the base flavorings are. Drops are relative to the bottle type or dripper tip, that said maybe start with 1 drop per 2 ml and go from there if needed. I would think you would not have to steep again simply adding a sweetener, however a flavoring in any real percentage I'd personally give it a day or so, hope this helps