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Yeah, the Big Bang episodes were pretty good.

Formula continues to be all over the place, lol... I don't think he's using Joss' formula or anyone else's, because the only eps that actually *deal* with the Big Plot are the finales... and that's my problem with it. If DW had a season like US shows - 22 eps, one every week - then it might work okay (although the whole "episodes full of hints but the actual big plot doesn't get dealt with, but nor does any individual ep have plot, because it's all just a vehicle for hinting around and misdirection" thing would still be annoying), but 13 eps spread out over 12-15 months with a 3-5 month break in the *middle* of the season just means I'm ready to put my hands around Moffat's *neck* by the time he does his "big reveal".

He annoyed me all over again with Matt's regen ep because he dredged up every idea he's ever had and reran them *again* (hardly for the first time), so it felt like the "isn't Moffat clever" episode instead of Matt's last hurrah. I know RTD did that too, but RTD was *also* leaving, for starters, so he needed to tie everything up and leave Moffat with a clean slate... and secondly, The End of Time *did* have a plot of its own, whereas Matt's last ep suffered from the usual problem of "oh my god, now I have an entire season's worth of hinting to explain, ack, not enough time, oh god, and a plot, where's a plot, that'll do, not much time for plot anyway so no one will notice." It's a real shame, because he could easily have just built on the previous ep and the anniversary ep and had something really good... but that wouldn't have left room to cram in every idea that's ever passed through his brain, and god forbid he not have time for his usual vanity exercise.

Oddly enough, Matt's best overall season was probably the one where Moffat decided that every episode had to be "An American Hollywood Blockbuster!!" (a direct quote from his now defunct Twitter feed)... the plots didn't always work, and the "everything is an action movie!!" concept got tedious, but at least almost every episode *had* a plot that made some kind of logical sense.

I quite like overarching plots, done well. Moffat's just one of those writers who can't do them well because he can't self-edit... entire seasons to work with gives him far too much rope, which he promptly uses to hang himself.

I'm hoping and praying that having something fresh to put Capaldi into (per the end of the anniversary ep) puts an end to all of this "I have a plot, but it's a secret, you see my secret plot that's a secret? Here's a clue that no one is going to explain or make reference to for the next 12 months, but I'm going to wave it in your face from now till then..." stuff. But it's Moffat, so I'm sure he'll find a way to irritate me.

Russell T Davies was far from perfect, but his stuff is always enjoyable to watch, from the original QaF to Who to his newer projects.

You just gave me a way to explain to my family why I stopped caring about the Matt Doctor episodes. Thank you.

Best "I'm running an overarching plot and keeping you glued to the show" writer/story ever: Babylon 5. Thank you, JMS. I wish they hadn't made you squish the ending around into season 4 instead of trusting that the fan base was rabid enough to make season 5 worth it.


I'm toward the end of Series 6...it feels like they've been trying way too hard. I think I liked 5 better, and I haven't heard much good about 7. Eccleston is still my favorite. ;)

I like Smith, but I'm looking forward to Capaldi and (hopefully) losing the forced sexual tensions between the last few Doctors/companions.

I loved Ecceston's Doctor. I'm also pretty sick of the mandatory "we have to be attracted to each other but we can't actually do anything about it" stuff - particularly with the River Song story threaded through the story line now.



On another note, good morning, MBV!

Coffee in hand, vaping a mix of yellow cake and bavarian cream prior to rinsing out tanks and pulling out some older juices to see how they are doing today.

On another note, I resurrected the ego-c atty I thought was dead - it was still firing, but had been subjected to almost a week's worth of really gunky juices. So I'm now chasing week 6 on it... :)
 

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Good morning all :)

@Ozwald and @Amiaji, you should look into a DNA20 board for your wooden pipe mods, that would be amazing and probably very resalable :)

As to the discussion about the Kayfun and Russian's, I may be incorrect as I admittedly have not done a lot of research, but I think I read somewhere that the Russian creator was actually a co-creator of the original Kayfun?

That's what I heard as well. I never really looked into that part of it though.
 

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Good morning all :)

@Ozwald and @Amiaji, you should look into a DNA20 board for your wooden pipe mods, that would be amazing and probably very resalable :)

As to the discussion about the Kayfun and Russian's, I may be incorrect as I admittedly have not done a lot of research, but I think I read somewhere that the Russian creator was actually a co-creator of the original Kayfun?
A wood DNA mod sounds awesome (but no thanks to a pipe mod for me) :thumb:
 

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I vape a lot of sweet/dark juices, so I have to dryburn my coils about once a day (two days max, but that second day is a pretty lousy vape by about halfway through). My concern with using cotton as the through-wick is trying to rewick the coil with fresh cotton after the dryburn... I don't think I'd have enough room to thread it through without first disassembling the coil head so that I can slide the coil up out of the head enough to get the cotton threaded through.

I'll definitely experiment with it a little before I get a genny, but I'm not sure if I'm up for all that palaver every time I dry burn.
IMHO gennies are a PITA, they don't wick really well without all the tipping, priming with the auto drip etc. so far I like the Kayftun clones, still need to muck about with them a bit but vapour and taste are there, minimal screwing around and pretty light on the fine motor skills level of things, I would recommend doing a bit of research on those before jumping into the genny thing, again this is just an opinion.
 

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You just gave me a way to explain to my family why I stopped caring about the Matt Doctor episodes. Thank you.

You're welcome. It took me a long time to put a finger on it. For a long time I thought I was just pining for Tennant (whom I've loved since his brilliant turn in Casanova) and RTD (whom I've loved since QaF) and thus not being fair to Smith or Moffat... but after a season or so, I came to realize it was the writing - it's clunky, self-absorbed writing with moments of brilliance... which almost irritates me *more* because those moments of brilliance are proof that Moffat does have the skills, he's just writing in an echo chamber where no one dares mention when he's careening off track. From David's regen till this November, I was just watching so that I'd know any potential background for the anniversary ep... and I was half-dreading what he might do to that. then he turned out another masterpiece - confirming that his problem isn't that he's forgotten how to write, just that he's one of those writers that does better within a set limit. If he wrote books, he'd be the brilliant short story writer who has a string of failed novels. :)

Now, I'm watching cause I want to see what happens with the drastic new direction the show is (allegedly, anyway) about to take... but I'm fully expecting it to be not half as good as it could be, because Moffat's still doing the writing.

On the off chance that anyone cares, here's how writing for Who works... the show-runner (Moffat) holds a pitch meeting where he discloses what the rough arc of the season is going to be, and then all of the writers throw out ideas for specific episodes, and the showrunner decides which writer gets to write which idea. (This is where the various writing credits come from, e.g. "by Mark Gatiss" means Mark Gatiss wrote the original script.) Then all the other writers turn their work in to the showrunner, and the showrunner *rewrites* everything to maintain a consistent voice for the Doctor and Companion(s). This is also where the showrunner has the chance to slip any "overarching plot" hints into the dialogue or stage directions.

What RTD would do is pick a few phrases that sounded good ("Bad Wolf," "Harold Saxon," "the bees are disappearing,") and then work out where he was going as they went. What Moffat does is work all that stuff out *beforehand* and then pound them all into the script with a sledgehammer of doom, thereby splintering any individual plot into oblivion. ;)

Best "I'm running an overarching plot and keeping you glued to the show" writer/story ever: Babylon 5. Thank you, JMS. I wish they hadn't made you squish the ending around into season 4 instead of trusting that the fan base was rabid enough to make season 5 worth it.

Agreed. West Wing and Battlestar Galactica also did a nice job.

I loved Ecceston's Doctor. I'm also pretty sick of the mandatory "we have to be attracted to each other but we can't actually do anything about it" stuff - particularly with the River Song story threaded through the story line now.

Don't even get me started on River, cause that leads me directly to "Moffat is a misogynistic homophobic ablist :censored: and he thinks that's funny".... and I try not to think about that too much. He's hardly the only person around who thinks "just" writing that kind of stuff makes it okay.

On another note, I resurrected the ego-c atty I thought was dead - it was still firing, but had been subjected to almost a week's worth of really gunky juices. So I'm now chasing week 6 on it... :)

Awesome. I was just thinking about that record-setting atty yesterday, glad it's still alive!
 

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mornin, everyone. gettin ready to head off to work. bleh.

perused the overnight and morning posts. totally lost. you guys talk geek speak. :?:

Morning Kelli, looking fantastic as always. :)

We have to talk geek speak to make sure Butch doesn't catch on to what we're talking about. ;) That way we can talk about him while he's busy over there drawing in the dirt with sticks :D

As for whatever Sean et al are talking about, I read the first part of it, my eyes glassed over & haven't followed since. It's either a TV show or a plot to take over the world from what I gather.
 

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IMHO gennies are a PITA, they don't wick really well without all the tipping, priming with the auto drip etc. so far I like the Kayftun clones, still need to muck about with them a bit but vapour and taste are there, minimal screwing around and pretty light on the fine motor skills level of things, I would recommend doing a bit of research on those before jumping into the genny thing, again this is just an opinion.

Thanks, will do. It'll be a good month before I can afford anything anyway, so I've got time to poke around.
 

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We've had a little Doctor Who fest goin' off 'n on this past week since my youngest has been home :)

I try not to over analyze these shows to much and just go with what's given as long as they're entertainin' and not feel like I just wasted an hour of my life... Though yes there were a few things that got annoyin' ;)

I really wished Babylon 5 or the spin-off (Crusade ?) could have lasted longer, still one of my favorite series...
 

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IMHO gennies are a PITA, they don't wick really well without all the tipping, priming with the auto drip etc. so far I like the Kayftun clones, still need to muck about with them a bit but vapour and taste are there, minimal screwing around and pretty light on the fine motor skills level of things, I would recommend doing a bit of research on those before jumping into the genny thing, again this is just an opinion.

For the price and vape...

it would be tough to beat an RSST, have had nothin' but a positive experience with them, just sayin' ;)
 

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Hope ya all have a great day !!!
 

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Morning Kelli, looking fantastic as always. :)

We have to talk geek speak to make sure Butch doesn't catch on to what we're talking about. ;) That way we can talk about him while he's busy over there drawing in the dirt with sticks :D

As for whatever Sean et al are talking about, I read the first part of it, my eyes glassed over & haven't followed since. It's either a TV show or a plot to take over the world from what I gather.
You just jealous 'cause I' m usin' cocobolo sticks.:p
 

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Good morning all :)

@Ozwald and @Amiaji, you should look into a DNA20 board for your wooden pipe mods, that would be amazing and probably very resalable :)

As to the discussion about the Kayfun and Russian's, I may be incorrect as I admittedly have not done a lot of research, but I think I read somewhere that the Russian creator was actually a co-creator of the original Kayfun?

I have thought about that but so far I haven't found anywhere that had DNA20 boards in stock.

After being inspired by this thread this morning I ran down to the shop and turned this out. Made out of cedar simply because I have lots of it laying around.

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Nothing fancy just a proof of concept. A 9/16ths forstner bit is almost the perfect size for my ego batteries. Now back to the shop to see if I can make one worth taking a good pic of.
 
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As for whatever Sean et al are talking about, I read the first part of it, my eyes glassed over & haven't followed since. It's either a TV show or a plot to take over the world from what I gather.

It's Doctor Who, a British sci-fi show that also has the distinction of being the first sci-fi show and the longest running show on television. It's about an alien called The Doctor (species: Time Lord) who has a spaceship that looks like a police box, but it's bigger on the inside... and it's also a time machine. Time Lords regenerate when they're about to die, so every once in a while, The Doctor regenerates into a completely new guy (and thus a new actor) with new quirks, but the same memories as the old guy. And he flies around in his spaceship (aka TARDIS: Time and Relative Dimension in Space) fighting aliens, tinkering with history and the future, and generally getting in trouble.

When it's good, it's glorious. When it's bad, it's depressing.

There's your cliffs notes. ;)
 

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You just jealous 'cause I' m usin' cocobolo sticks.:p

:laugh: You got me.

I have thought about that but so far I haven't found anywhere that had DNA20 boards in stock.

After being inspired by this thread this morning I ran down to the shop and turned this out. Made out of cedar simply because I have lots of it laying around.

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Nothing fancy just a proof of concept. A 9/16ths forstner bit is almost the perfect size for my ego batteries. Now back to the shop to see if I can make one worth taking a good pic of.

Looks nice. I don't post any pics of my vape-related ideas since I've seen someone else get in trouble "for trying to sell things as an unregistered supplier." She blew some glass tanks, posted them as a 'look what I made for myself' & a couple people asked some questions about them. She never tried to sell them or even insinuate that she would, but it still earned her the dreaded asterisk of death. Silly, but I just won't toe that line because of it.

It's Doctor Who, a British sci-fi show that also has the distinction of being the first sci-fi show and the longest running show on television. It's about an alien called The Doctor (species: Time Lord) who has a spaceship that looks like a police box, but it's bigger on the inside... and it's also a time machine. Time Lords regenerate when they're about to die, so every once in a while, The Doctor regenerates into a completely new guy (and thus a new actor) with new quirks, but the same memories as the old guy. And he flies around in his spaceship (aka TARDIS: Time and Relative Dimension in Space) fighting aliens, tinkering with history and the future, and generally getting in trouble.

When it's good, it's glorious. When it's bad, it's depressing.

There's your cliffs notes. ;)

[glassy eyes] So... trying to take over the world. Got it. :D

 
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