Oh, it doesn't *stop* at 17, it just goes from near-nuclear to a little more subtle. That's when they switch from active sabotage to slightly-less-active sabotage.![]()
Its all a prelude to..............Menapause !!!!
That's when they bring out the big guns !!

That's my point exactly. My best friends are women (not "some of my best friends are," but "all of my friends, the ones I can actually depend on, are women - with one or two exceptions.")... but I will *not* get on their bad side, because they will *never* let me forget it!