multimeter to make wire for the Penelope

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do you have stable readings when you touch the two leads together?
If so then the twisted part of the NR and R wire are not tight enough. I use tweezers to twist my wires.


it jumps a bit but is sort of stable.

what wire size do they use to make the pre-made ones? Does the wire size effect the overall length of the R wire? I mean if I use a certain gauge is it possible that the length of my resistance piece would be WAY shorter than the one of the pre-made one?

also, if the pieces that are spun together are longer than they should be on the R piece, will this effect the overall length and reading? should the part where they are joined be as small as possible?
 

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I think I will have time tomorrow night to make a "how to video" for the single coil.

Your problem with the multi-meter could be the meter itself. I have a couple that bounce around. I am using a Fluke meter now. Little more expensive but more accurate.

Do you have a model number?
 

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I've been looking into multimeters all day on youtube.. that crazy guy from AU that has the shootout and beginners guide reviews. Looked into the 115. It has some value that starts on 0.1ohms and the cheapo i have has the lowest setting of 200. I guess thats what makes it suitable? That guy in those videos really tells you to stay clear off multimeters with "only" 3 connections, something with amps or miliamps shared with volts. But cant see 115 having that either. Confusing

Checked: miliamps was the thing. But doesnt seme like the 115 measures that anyway
 
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I've been looking into multimeters all day on youtube.. that crazy guy from AU that has the shootout and beginners guide reviews. Looked into the 115. It has some value that starts on 0.1ohms and the cheapo i have has the lowest setting of 200. I guess thats what makes it suitable? That guy in those videos really tells you to stay clear off multimeters with "only" 3 connections, something with amps or miliamps shared with volts. But cant see 115 having that either. Confusing

Checked: miliamps was the thing. But doesnt seme like the 115 measures that anyway

It measures miliamps. You set it to dc amps then hit the function button.
 

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It measures miliamps. You set it to dc amps then hit the function button.

well I ordered that one which will be here tomorrow. We will see if that helps.

I am still curious about the wire size and connection question.

does the wire gauge that I am using effect the length of the "R" wire? and does not much is used to connect to the "NR" wire effect that as well.
 

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Ob the wire size does make a difference. I use 32awg a-1 kanthal. I use 3mm silica wick. I have been pretty consistent in going by wraps. I tried the meter slide on the wire thing too and was all over unless I really held the wire firm against the meter leads and gave it 5 or so seconds to settle and lock in. Then I would get a steady reading.

Using the above materials and no meter I have figured out that an 8/7 wrap will put me around 2.9-3.1ohms. A 7/6 wrap will put me around 2.3-2.6 and a 5/4 wrap will put me around 1.3-1.6. Don't know if this helps at all :confused:

From all I have read and watched it is the total length of the wire so the ends of the R wire that are twisted around the NR wire will factor in to the overall length, therefore ohms.
 
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well I ordered that one which will be here tomorrow. We will see if that helps.

I am still curious about the wire size and connection question.

does the wire gauge that I am using effect the length of the "R" wire? and does not much is used to connect to the "NR" wire effect that as well.

Resistance wire:
32 awg for low resistance 1.0 ohms to 2.0 ohms
34 awg for med resistance 2.0 ohms to 3.0 ohms
36 awg for high resistance 3.0 + ohms
Thicker wire=less resistance
Shorter wire=less resistance

Resistance begins and ends where it touches both of your non resistance wires. The length of your twists only affects ease of installation. Try to make your twists as small as you can without compromising strength.
 

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Resistance wire:
32 awg for low resistance 1.0 ohms to 2.0 ohms
34 awg for med resistance 2.0 ohms to 3.0 ohms
36 awg for high resistance 3.0 + ohms
Thicker wire=less resistance
Shorter wire=less resistance

Resistance begins and ends where it touches both of your non resistance wires. The length of your twists only affects ease of installation. Try to make your twists as small as you can without compromising strength.

So if I understand correctly, if I use more R wire to attach to the NR wire, this will factor in.

This is Probably why when I measure the R wire out I get to 1.7 in like a half a inch. The issue with that of course is that it does not give me that much to work with in wrapping it around the wick.

Does this sound correct?

Are the pre made ones soldered? I don't get how they are attached together.
 

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So if I understand correctly, if I use more R wire to attach to the NR wire, this will factor in.

This is Probably why when I measure the R wire out I get to 1.7 in like a half a inch. The issue with that of course is that it does not give me that much to work with in wrapping it around the wick.

Does this sound correct?

Are the pre made ones soldered? I don't get how they are attached together.

No the length of your twists do not factor in. What I mean is the length of the R wire not twisted determines the resistance. The part between the twists
Not sure how the premades are connected
 
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