MVP 2.0 OVER A ProVari Mini REALLY ???

[Fulgurant]

It was an awful analogy. You're claiming the Provari can outperform the MVP. It really can't.

I never brought up VW, but since you did, it's nice to have the option. In VV mode, the MVP is just accurate as the Provari. So, who's twisting words? I said the Provari doesn't outperform the MVP, which is true for all but a few vapers.

The Provari is more accurate in the sense that it will output the exact voltage you dial in (amp limits permitting). The MVP might be off by a 10th of a volt, but that's really not important; you just dial it to whatever feels best.

Both mods are similarly consistent voltage-wise, though. That's no mean feat on the MVP's part.

As for the Provari outperforming the MVP, that is a matter of perspective. The Provari undoubtedly delivers higher wattage, but the average vaper probably isn't gonna want any more than the MVP's max of 11 watts. So if I were gonna indulge in a car analogy, I'd probably say that the MVP is a low-to-mid-range sedan that delivers great performance at a great price, and the Provari's a Cadillac with a sporty engine. They both appeal to essentially the same set of customer usage habits, but one's a good deal nicer in ways that any particular consumer may or may not appreciate.

 

[Fulgurant]

I did misunderstand your point. Apologies.

In fairness, you misunderstood my point about accuracy.

I told you guys this thread wouldn't end well. It's insulting.

It's alright man, we're all fighting the same fight, we just drink a little koolaid from the makers of our favorite mods from time to time. You are correct, I did not see what you were saying about accuracy, I tended to use VV mode on the MVP during my time with it for what it's worth.

Good on you guys. Both of you

 

[Ref Minor]

If MVP 2 and Provari had a fight, you know who would win?

Provari. That's who.

<ducks, runs>

Actually the MVPs would over-run the Provaris by sheer weight of numbers.

 

[Rabbit Chaser]

I have contemplated the MVP but the walkie-talkie look is hard for me to wrap my brain around while vaping. It was hard to pass up the 101vape.com $39.00 deal but I have to hold it in my hand and hit it before I can decide. Without trying it, i would choose the Provari but then again, my device budget is on hold until after the holidays and my devices do what is intended. Good for you though, purchasing a life saving device, no matter what device that may be!

 

[SissySpike]

In VV mode, the MVP is just accurate as the Provari. So, who's twisting words? I said the Provari doesn't outperform the MVP, which is true for all but a few vapers.
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This is not a true statement if you scope a MVP and a Provari side buy side there is a difference. Plus the Provari has less under load loss than the MVP. I am not knocking the MVP it is a great device. But what your saying is not true.

 

[JJOOHHNN]

Correct me if I'm wrong but aren't you the same person who responded to a thread from someone asking what the next step up from an Ego battery was and you told them to buy a Provari?

You're in a world of your own IMO. By the way I'll hunt that thread down if you deny it.

This is getting a bit old, I might like the vape off a MVP if I tried one. Even if I did like the vape off of one it does not mean I would want one. I wouldn't know until I tried and had it for awhile. Before I ever saw or heard of a Provari I listed a set of requirements for a desk based unit. In the list it included that I would not have to replace it and that it be on the heavy side for stability. I will use other things for the light stuff.

The stuff that I will never use nor ever want to use that had been recommended to me cost many times more than when added up then the Provari's did. Even if there was something at the time cheaper that I would have liked as much no one mentioned it to me. It would have been cheaper to have jumped over all the other stuff. I certainly wish I would have got the Provari for my indoor work space instead of an eGo twist but the thing is I had specific requirement. I wanted to use a 6ml tank and have battery life so that I could work and not be filling over and over again. Inside the first half hour this top heavy pole fell over and made a mess and slowed down work. That alone was worth getting a Provari just to have avoided the frustration and work stoppage. The other nice parts of the Provari is just gravy. I wish people would not have held back the fanboys on this one.

I don't know this but I think you spend time judging peoples motivations without knowing them and I also think you judge gear you have never tried. I have seen several posts where the MVP gets a lot of praise. I don't think I will get one because I have a desk top work space set up the way I want it. I so wish I would have got the Provari out the gate for the desk top as it would have saved a lot of frustration.

I finally found a small set up that I can live with after six months of looking, that involved going though a bunch of stuff recommended that felt short of satisfying. That search was more than a Provari but I now have a small set up that works for me and does what I want. In the search for my small device I have want to be rid of a bunch of stuff people said I should get. I don't just work at a desk but also work outside and do a lot of physical things.

I would like to get a medium sized device sorted out but I can live with what I have now. I am not going to ask many questions when it comes to looking for a medium sized solution. I will instead look a the numbers and when I find something that looks like it might work out I will ask some pointed questions to someone that owns one instead of what I have done in the past.

 

[Baditude]

I own a first gen MVP, and a standard Provari and a mini Provari.

I primarily use the standard Provari at home with the 18650 battery. For out of the house, its either or the Mini or the MVP. All three are equally enjoyable to own and use. Provari and MVP have the same smooth vape. I like both of the form factors equally.

If I had to choose just one of the three, it would be the Mini. It's the most adaptable: I can use it with an 18350, 18490, or 18650 battery. It's equally comfortable to use at home or away. Unlike the MVP, should I drop it on concrete, I'm less concerned about breaking it. I feel secure that should it need repair, I can return it to Provape for repair and have it returned back to me within a week good as new. I'll be using my two Provari's for the next ten years or longer. The MVP, maybe 2 years, depending upon how long that built-in battery lasts.

 

[B1sh0p]

This is not a true statement if you scope a MVP and a Provari side buy side there is a difference. Plus the Provari has less under load loss than the MVP. I am not knocking the MVP it is a great device. But what your saying is not true.

Nice Freudian slip there (buy).

Do you have the data that proves it? I saw something that showed both devices under load and they had nearly the same results. I can't remember where it was though.

 

[Asbestos4004]

I once slapped a dude...he was smoking Mavericks. I said "Get a Marlboro!"

 

[SissySpike]

Just a little something Ive noticed over my vaping career The most admit Provari haters usually end up being the biggest Provari fans eventually. Scoff if you must but Ive seen it over and over again.

 

[devauto]

I just shared this story over in the New Member's Forum and I just had to bring it to you Vets.

I got my dad a Black ProVari Mini, (last month) and the other day I ordered a MVP 2 for a friend of his.
So today it came in the mail and I took it to my dad to give to his friend.
My dad loved the MVP 2 so much he wanted to trade his ProVari for it. LOL
Why Cause to him it seemed Cooler then his ProVari!

ProVari kit is $209.95 and the MVP 2 Kit is $39.99.
I wish I would of knew that he would of been happier with the $40 one over the $210 one

Tell him I'll trade him a MVP 2 for the Provari, and I'll even throw in a Protank II!

 

[Stosh]

Just a little something Ive noticed over my vaping career The most admit Provari haters usually end up being the biggest Provari fans eventually. Scoff if you must but Ive seen it over and over again.

I am NOT a Provari hater by any means, I just wish they put the same electronics into a box mod style. There are still some of us out here that just like the box mod better...

 

[JJOOHHNN]

Correct me if I'm wrong but aren't you the same person who responded to a thread from someone asking what the next step up from an Ego battery was and you told them to buy a Provari?

You're in a world of your own IMO. By the way I'll hunt that thread down if you deny it.

How many different things have you sat down and used for extended periods of time? Just curious.

 

[Fulgurant]

Nice Freudian slip there (buy).

Do you have the data that proves it? I saw something that showed both devices under load and they had nearly the same results. I can't remember where it was though.

I haven't gotten around to taking screen captures of PBusardo's review of the Provari, but here's his chart from the MVP review:

MVP Voltage chart

You'll notice that the output voltage is approximately one-tenth higher than the setting, where amp limits permit. In cases where the amp limit's been exceeded, the MVP obviously outputs much lower voltage than the (higher) settings, but that happens with every VV mod beyond a certain point. That threshold's a little higher for the Provari, though, and the Provari outputs within 0.01 volts of the desired setting at all other points on the scale.

(Again, I don't have the chart to demonstrate that last statement; you'll just have to take my word for it for now. )

(EDIT: Also, for the sake of completeness, I'll reiterate that this accuracy issue isn't really very important in practice. The numbers are abstractions; as long as the MVP can deliver the voltage at which you like to vape best, then it doesn't matter whether the display shows a voltage 0.1 lower.)

 

[Fulgurant]

I am NOT a Provari hater by any means, I just wish they put the same electronics into a box mod style. There are still some of us out here that just like the box mod better...

FWIW, I'm with you. I'd already have bought a Provari if it weren't for the fact that I've come to love boxier designs. Hell, I'd settle for an octagonal Provari -- just make it less likely to roll around, guys!

 

[SissySpike]

Nice Freudian slip there (buy).

Do you have the data that proves it? I saw something that showed both devices under load and they had nearly the same results. I can't remember where it was though.

I have a scope yes and I scope lots of mods. I was curious about the MVP but its wave is a little choppy as apposed to the very little variance in the Provari wave. The Nivel is the only thing Ive found that has a cleaner signal than the Provari. I think the MVP was like a 10th more loss under load than a Provari and the Nivel is a 100dt loss of the Provari granted this is not much and not really noticeable.

If we are going to talk performance especially comparing to cars when a 10th of a second can mean win or lose then we can also say a 10th or a 100th of a volt is a difference. So to say out preforms if a false statement cause it dose not.

Saying its close and for 39$ as compared to 159$ is a very fair statement.

 

[Stosh]

FWIW, I'm with you. I'd already have bought a Provari if it weren't for the fact that I've come to love boxier designs. Hell, I'd settle for an octagonal Provari -- just make it less likely to roll around, guys!

I do believe this may be the origination of the OP's question...why someone prefers one shape over another, I don't know but I just do...

 

[klynnn]

Provari is a good battery but I doubt I would give up my first born like some on here would. It really gets a little over the top with the fanboys. I have one and I like it but enough is enough.

 

[Mikie]

I once slapped a dude...he was smoking Mavericks. I said "Get a Marlboro!"

lulz.... I know I am new. But this right here.

 

[KurrptSenate]

My provari just seems to be consistent. I never tried an MVP as I don't particularly care for the style of it but I definitely see why people find something they like and stick with it.