My Best Bish Twist So Far

[Torqueguy]

Thanks to the Bish Twist coil, I'm now a LR, LV vaper. Several people have asked for photos on how to make the Bish Twist so I just made a new one and documented the process.

In this case, I started with two wires, a 6" piece of 34ga Kanthal, folded in half, and a 3" piece of 32.

Just so happens I had a set of Hemostats between my lava lamp and my Pink Floyd albums in the basement.
Leftovers from the 70's you know.
Anyway, the Hemo makes for a great tool to hold the loop end of the wires

keeping the 32 in the center, I twisted the 34 gauge around it, in effect making a "rope"

Here's a close up of the finished product

This yielded 2 1/2" of usable wire "rope"

The 2 1/2" was twisted on to the silver NR wire. Using 1/4" per side, it's net effect was 2" from NR end to NR end

This allows for 6 nice wraps around a double 3mm silica wick. I double up the wick under the coils and run a single strand down the channels.

the net result is a nearly indestructible 1.1OHM coil that is absolutely great. I've been running a .9 ohm now for 3 weeks+ without any burnout. Every couple days I unscrew the Ody, remove the two top caps, exposing the coil, rinse in hot water, and dry burn the coil a few times. This Bish Twist is probably one of the best inventions of 2012 because until I found this thing, I could not wind a coil that was of low enough resistance that didn't burn out in a couple days.

hope this helps and thanks once more to my buddy Bish

 

[Bishopheals]

Congrats Torque I'm glad you like it. I have to give credit to Manos as well on this. It funny how we came to this is because i was out of 34 gauge (.16) at the time so to compensate the length of the wire that's why we did the twist to lengthen the distance and keeping a low resistance.

If you like we can get together on skype and vape and I can show you a few other things that you may like as well.

 

[Aal_]

Torque how did u get from pic 1 to pic 2, where did the rope go?

 

[gsa]

Whats the advantage of twisting vs just using a single 28g or 30g wire?

 

[Torqueguy]

I'm a mechanical engineer! Don't know about the electron stuff. Pic two is just a result of twisting the 2 34's around the 1 32. All I know is the additional wire decreases the resistance to make a very robust rope of wire that reduces resistance yet allows for a strong coil.
Key is to flame the wires so they are pliable.

 

[CaptSteve]

What I used to do Torque is put a hook on my drill's chuck and get a long piece of 34 gauge resistance wire (about 2 feet), mend it in half so you two foot long pieces hook it on the drill and hold the other side of the wire with pliers and twist them with the drill. Makes great tight twists real fast

 

[Aron Gatt]

My oddy and iatty hit Malta so hopefully tomorrow will be here ... Il be trying this one soon .... Yeah baby let the GG fever begin .

Ps: need to try captain dual on iatty aswel ...but that need more skill .... Now I know what's the ggtaitus is

 

[gtbb]

What I used to do Torque is put a hook on my drill's chuck and get a long piece of 34 gauge resistance wire (about 2 feet), mend it in half so you two foot long pieces hook it on the drill and hold the other side of the wire with pliers and twist them with the drill. Makes great tight twists real fast

How tight do you twist them together? Have a pic?

 

[CaptSteve]

No I don't have a pic but the objective to this method is not the tightness of the twist but the sheer speed in which you can do a large piece of resistance very uniformly

 

[gtbb]

It is fast alright. I twisted 4 feet in minute. Worked great. I came out with .9 ohm with twisted 33 Kanthal. Thanks

 

[Vinnyngo69]

Cool... Thanks Torqueguy and Bishopheals. I'll try this on my next rebuild

 

[manos3906]

its better (for me) to twist two different size coils( a thinner and a fatter)
for example:0,13 with 0,16
0,13-0,20
0,13-0,17
i make twisted coils only with 0,13 because i think its much better
try it you, have nothing to lose

 

[TheSneakerHoarder]

D*mnit...Just made my newest double this morning before checking in here--looks like I need to try this asap.

 

[Vinnyngo69]

I also thank you Manos as Bishopheals said he sourced the idea from you.

Cheers...........

its better (for me) to twist two different size coils( a thinner and a fatter)
for example:0,13 with 0,16
0,13-0,20
0,13-0,17
i make twisted coils only with 0,13 because i think its much better
try it you, have nothing to lose

 

[TheSneakerHoarder]

Just tried this--had to go to only 1.25" in resistance length (3 wraps)....Still not hot enough or enough vapor.

My dual coil (.9 ohm build from youtube) uses 2 1" 34g resistance wires with only 2.5 wraps--it is heaven.

Am I doing something wrong? Every coil build I try I have to halve the length of my resistance wires....???

 

[CaptSteve]

Here are some pictures so you can see how nice and uniform the twist is using the drill. It took just seconds to do this

 

[Aal_]

Guys, using twisted wires yields the same wire of a thicker gauge. All you have to do is add up the surface area of the section. 2 36 awg wires yields same resistance per inch of 1 33 awg wire. It can be proven mathematically. Now with mixing gauges like manos does you can get gauges that don't exist like 31.5 and such. So twisting wires is only necessary if you run out of a thicker wire or if you want your custom ohms per inch and a certain length kind of wire by mixing gauges. The only unnoticeable downside is that the maximum outer thickness of the twisted wire is larger but that doesn't affect resistance per inch which is a function of surface area. So 2 36 awg twisted will give resistance of 33 awg but with thickness of 30 awg.

 

[manos3906]

its not only that my friend
the duration of the mixed gauge twisted coils(for example 0,13/0,20) is much much bigger then the simple(0,20) or twisted same gauge coils(0,16.0,16)
believe me

 

[imeothanasis]

Its also the fact that twisted wires hold some juice on it aal, and that drives to an even better vaping. When I introduced the twisted wires in e-cig market I didnt know why they vaped better but one reason is this for sure

Guys, using twisted wires yields the same wire of a thicker gauge. All you have to do is add up the surface area of the section. 2 36 awg wires yields same resistance per inch of 1 33 awg wire. It can be proven mathematically. Now with mixing gauges like manos does you can get gauges that don't exist like 31.5 and such. So twisting wires is only necessary if you run out of a thicker wire or if you want your custom ohms per inch and a certain length kind of wire by mixing gauges. The only unnoticeable downside is that the maximum outer thickness of the twisted wire is larger but that doesn't affect resistance per inch which is a function of surface area. So 2 36 awg twisted will give resistance of 33 awg but with thickness of 30 awg.

 

[Aal_]

I did not know it affects the vaping experience that much. Good to know . It seems I should use less the pen and paper and vape more . However for anyone interested in playing around with resistances and lengths, the calculations below still hold.