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This is a good discussion Torque. I'm looking for a new setup as I've developed quite a chronic cough with my present setup. I thought I'd found nirvana when I discovered the .9 ohm dual coil setup and for the past couple of months that's what I've been vaping in my drip mode Ody sitting on top of 2 RCR123A 3.0v batteries in the GGTS. Yeah, that's .9 ohms @ 6v. Helluva throat hit, clouds of vapor and believe it or not great juice flavor. Only problem is this cough seems to be getting even worse than when smoking analogs. So even though I know I'm gonna miss the throat hit gotta do something different. Thanks for the good ideas.
I remember reading somewhere that PG can break down into something that's bad for you if it's heated too hot. I wonder if your temperature might be doing that. I don't even remember what it was, but it was on the ECF somewhere. I just spent 15 minutes searching google, and came up empty handed.
0.9 ohm dual coils at 6v... According to a calculator that I just plugged it into, it says that's something like 40 watts, 20 watts per coil and 6.6666 amps going through your GGTS. (By the way, I have some 40 watt light bulbs laying around here somewhere)
Also...you know what battery stacking can be dangerous, right? The chance for a failure in one of them is pretty high if you're not checking them frequently, keeping them in pairs, and tossing them when they start to lose charge. This is triply true if they're not protected batteries.
0.9 ohm dual coils at 6v... According to a calculator that I just plugged it into, it says that's something like 40 watts, 20 watts per coil and 6.6666 amps going through your GGTS. (By the way, I have some 40 watt light bulbs laying around here somewhere)
Also...you know what battery stacking can be dangerous, right? The chance for a failure in one of them is pretty high if you're not checking them frequently, keeping them in pairs, and tossing them when they start to lose charge. This is triply true if they're not protected batteries.
Agreed. I used to enjoy 1.6-1.8 ohms at 7.4v but developed a cough as well. Now i run either 4ohm at 7.4v or around 1.3-1.4 ohm at 3.7v
No, actually I didn't know it could be dangerous. Just thought that's what HV vaping was all about. Not very knowledgeable about electricity but didn't think 6v would be dangerous. Maybe I need to step down to 1 18650 3.7v battery.
Think that's what I'll do also Torque. Maybe just step the voltage down to 3.7 and see if that helps. If that doesn't do it guess I'll have to start increasing resistance.
Think I'll just wait on the VIR.
Or see about getting your hands on a kick.
i'm still getting burnt hits and extremely hot vapor with a 0.17mm kanthal coil at 2.5 ohm @ anything over 5v
thats not even 2.5 amps....... tried both methods of loose (with a pin) and tight wire winding around the 3mm wick... but still nothing!
juice control open at 4 turns.... no flood but still burnt!!
thats not even 2.5 amps....... tried both methods of loose (with a pin) and tight wire winding around the 3mm wick... but still nothing!
juice control open at 4 turns.... no flood but still burnt!!
Did you prime it as you were assembling it? How many wicks are you using?
I use 2 wicks, one long one that goes down the channels, and one short one that sits ontop. I make sure that the wire is -touching- the wick at all points after it's assembled. That usually involves me picking at it with a tweezers to line it up and crimp it a little here and there.
I put a few drops of liquid on the wick before I put the top nut on that sort of holds everything in place. Then I put a few more drops on and attach the bottom connector. Then I test fire it from an eGo battery, which usually doesn't get it very hot, but it atleast lets me know that it's working. Next, it goes on my SB and gets heated and dripped on for a couple minutes (not straight. Heat a bit, let it cool, repeat) I try to crimp up the wires where it's not on the wick and I'm getting a hot spot.
Interestingly, it takes about 1/2 a tank to a full tank before my flavors all start coming out, and the wick starts wicking properly. I've discovered that the more hot spots/not touching the wick/places that get red when you're watching it, the worse the flavor while it's breaking in the coil. I do go very easy on it for atleast an hour or two while the wick is learning how to wick and the wire is getting some gunk on it.
I'd recommend that you start low and let it learn how to do its job before you crank it up. Gotta break it in a bit!
Did you prime it as you were assembling it? How many wicks are you using?
I use 2 wicks, one long one that goes down the channels, and one short one that sits ontop. I make sure that the wire is -touching- the wick at all points after it's assembled. That usually involves me picking at it with a tweezers to line it up and crimp it a little here and there.
I put a few drops of liquid on the wick before I put the top nut on that sort of holds everything in place. Then I put a few more drops on and attach the bottom connector. Then I test fire it from an eGo battery, which usually doesn't get it very hot, but it atleast lets me know that it's working. Next, it goes on my SB and gets heated and dripped on for a couple minutes (not straight. Heat a bit, let it cool, repeat) I try to crimp up the wires where it's not on the wick and I'm getting a hot spot.
Interestingly, it takes about 1/2 a tank to a full tank before my flavors all start coming out, and the wick starts wicking properly. I've discovered that the more hot spots/not touching the wick/places that get red when you're watching it, the worse the flavor while it's breaking in the coil. I do go very easy on it for atleast an hour or two while the wick is learning how to wick and the wire is getting some gunk on it.
I'd recommend that you start low and let it learn how to do its job before you crank it up. Gotta break it in a bit!
hey there i appreciate the advise. i tried double 3mm top wick once but my batteries were on a death row at the time and were not providing enough current, i would have to try it again. is it the only way for the oddy to handle big current tho? i have a feeling that it should be able to cope with a single wick aswell. i make sure there are absolutely no hotspots aswell, to the point where my coils look very OCD like.... something like factory made
hey there i appreciate the advise. i tried double 3mm top wick once but my batteries were on a death row at the time and were not providing enough current, i would have to try it again. is it the only way for the oddy to handle big current tho? i have a feeling that it should be able to cope with a single wick aswell. i make sure there are absolutely no hotspots aswell, to the point where my coils look very OCD like.... something like factory made
The reason that I use a second wick is to make sure that the coil doesn't dry up too fast. I did two or three coils with single wicks and my 5-10 second drags would burn part way through. At first I thought that it was a problem with the wick taking the liquid, but then I realized that it was more that there wasn't enough space for the liquid that I was demanding.
There is a fellow on here that uses a triple wick, and he says it's a dream. I don't want to try stuffing that much wicking into the little ceramic.
I use a Penelope, btw, but the mechanic of the wick/wire is identical on the Oddy.Try a double wick next time, and then make sure that you give it some time to warm up/break in before you go pouring the high voltage on.
Ody can handle any current with a single wick buddy because of its liquid control. You can feed the wick as much as you like
hey there i appreciate the advise. i tried double 3mm top wick once but my batteries were on a death row at the time and were not providing enough current, i would have to try it again. is it the only way for the oddy to handle big current tho? i have a feeling that it should be able to cope with a single wick aswell. i make sure there are absolutely no hotspots aswell, to the point where my coils look very OCD like.... something like factory made
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i'm at 4 full turns on the liquid control and i'm still burning...
I've been cutting my 32g K-A1 in 2" lengths, then heat them all to glowing. I use 1/4" on each end to twist the NR wire, I trim the 1/4" twist to about 1/8" before wrapping it with the NR wire. This leaves me with 1-1/2" between the legs and gives me consistant 2.0 ohm coils on a double 3mm wick. If I don't heat the R wire to glowing before making the coil I get a funny "wet dog" taste for about the first half hour of vaping. Also heating the wire takes some of the spring out of it, making it easier to wrap around the wick. Takes a little extra time but its worth it in the end. Also I make them in batches 5-6 at a time and keep them in a small baggie.
i am using now,about a month, dual coil on ody and iatty "only" on GGTS
0,16mm nickel/chrome resistand wire at 1,5Ω
so 1,5+1,5=0,75Ω
no burn taste, foul flavor, lot of vapor and great hit
0,16mm nickel/chrome resistand wire at 1,5Ω
so 1,5+1,5=0,75Ω
no burn taste, foul flavor, lot of vapor and great hit
Correct and good post. If instead of 32 Kanthal you used 36, it would yield approx 3ohms which is great for HV
I've tried higher resistance/voltage but it doesn't really seem to do it for me. I'm usually 2ohm 4.5v right at 10w. I've tried 3ohm 5.5v and 3.5ohm at 6v. All about same wattage but I prefer the 2/4.5 combo for some reason. If I go much above 10w it seems to be too much for me also, except on a few tobacco extract juices. I'll try anything though if you have suggestions. I think all my VV devices max out at 6v though. I've got boosted and stacked/regulated ones.
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