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So A lot of this is above my head but heres what I have. kanthal A-2 32 ga. and silver NR 30 ga. and 25 ga. Using these how would I get a 0.8 -1.5 ohm coil?
Going to buy a multi meter.
Thanks,
Chris
Going to buy a multi meter.
Thanks,
Chris
Hey Chris,
Looking at the resistance of my Kanthal 32 try about 1.1 inches to get just under 1.5 ohms.
This means that the length of the resistance wire between the no resistance silver wire should be approximately 1.1 inches. The amount of coils depends on your wick of course.
Some extra info until you have a multimeter.
Resistance- 13.96 Ohms/Ft
Wire Diameter- .008"
Wire Gauge- 32
So basically that's 1.16 ohms resistance per inch for your wire. Your wire may vary SLIGHTLY but it shouldn't be much.
Looking at the resistance of my Kanthal 32 try about 1.1 inches to get just under 1.5 ohms.
This means that the length of the resistance wire between the no resistance silver wire should be approximately 1.1 inches. The amount of coils depends on your wick of course.
Some extra info until you have a multimeter.
Resistance- 13.96 Ohms/Ft
Wire Diameter- .008"
Wire Gauge- 32
So basically that's 1.16 ohms resistance per inch for your wire. Your wire may vary SLIGHTLY but it shouldn't be much.
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For us newbs out there how would one go about using a multi meter in this application? Where do you apply Negative electrode and positive electrode to what part of coil?
When you're using the multi-meter, it doesn't really matter which end is where, as long as it's making a loop. I attach the NR wire to the R wire, and then hold one of the poles on the end of the NR wire.
Then I measure down the R wire until it gets about to where I want it, and put a little bend there, so I know where the other side of the NR wire will attach.
Make sure you're using a non-conductive surface behind the poles of the multi-meter though.
Then I measure down the R wire until it gets about to where I want it, and put a little bend there, so I know where the other side of the NR wire will attach.
Make sure you're using a non-conductive surface behind the poles of the multi-meter though.
Hi Shack, no metal flavor. I torch the r wire with a regular cigarette lighter till it glows before wrapping. The torching makes the wire more pliable and easier to wrap and the heating burns away any coating on the wire.
The Ody/Penelope wick RA is really the better mousetrap in my opinion. I fully respect the people that use the other styles but for me, the flavor and ease of the Ody system is tops.
Correct, 30ga is tops. Use dead soft for pliability but if you bought semi hard, run a quick flame under the wire and it will soften up
Zigzags on the coil tweezers do s1mp3
Coils look pretty nice
How did you manage to get this pattern?
Thank you,this is ecactly what I've been searching thru the forums for all night.I am deff a noob in every since of the word.I have been doing a lot of reading and this post put it in very simple terms for me.I found some silver wire and was not sure I could use the Nickle chromium with it till I saw this post.Every ref thus far that Ive read was for Kanthal a-1 & silver...yeah yeah..I know...yer shaking yer head grinning,but Im a floor covering guy,not an electrical feller..LOL...thank you for putting this to bed for me.
Bucky
LOL..actauly this was for the post below this one but anyway,the entire thread was a big help
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Just the thread i´ve been looking for 
Having my Penelope inc. from Greece, crossed fingers it will arrive one of these days, just wanna get some wire & wick in stock, so i can find the perfect setup from the start off.
Have so many questions I must admit, after reading for the past week or so, hope u can forgive me.
1. NR. Is it possible to use Nickle crome wire for the 2 none resistance wires, everyone only mention silver wire. Been looking on wires.co.uk. Else i just get the 0.2mm Soft Fine Silver Wire - Ref: SI0200-010.
2. AWG / SWG. In this thread everyone mention wire in gauges.
wires.co.uk uses SWG like "0.200mm 36 SWG - 34.4 ohms per metre". And as Torqueguy said, the best for HV are the nr 36. thats where I get confused. 36 SWG would burn ur head clean off, heeh. I would need a conversion table to read AWG numbers compared to SWG. The Conversion table tells me that 36 AWG = 0.1270mm and 36 SWG = 0.193mm. Not sure if Kanthal and Nickle crome have the same resistance tho.
In US they use AWG (American Wire Gauge) & in EU SWG (Imperial Standard Wire Gauge).
3. Wire. Plz clarify and enlighten me gentlemen, I wanna get some wire for both 6,4 volt and 3,7 volt. I will need 3 different types, now that i can use the no resistance wire with both setups. It should make something like 2,8 - 3,2 ohm for 6,4 volt and about 1.5 - 1,7 ohm for 3.7 volt, is that way off?
Hope someone have some experience with that on Penelope. Heard that u need a lower ohm on Penelope than on a regular catomizer / atomizer. And ofc. I can make the coil a little longer / shorter to fit the desired ohms, but only within a certain limit. I have no idea how many cm. an average normal coil are, so kinda hard to predict exactly. Plz guide me so I can get all 3 types of wire home before i recieve my penelope.
My guess with a 4cm coil would be : (keep in mind that i have no idea how long an average coil are.)
0.2mm Soft Fine Silver Wire - Ref: SI0200-010 - No resistance wire
0.132mm 39 SWG - Ref: NC0132-010M - 78.9 ohms per metre - For 6,4 Volt
0.200mm 36 SWG - Ref: NC0200-050 - 34.4 ohms per metre - For 3.7 Volt
4. Wick Can only get my hands on 1mm and 2mm wicks atm, and from what I read on forum, 3mm are the way to go. Atleast for the wick that have to go down the channel´s on each side. Is it possible to use 3x1mm all the way?
Or even 1x2mm + 2x1mm? Just a little worried that it will flod, cause the channels arent closed completely, even tho all setup mentioned are 3mm combinded. Maybe even short circuit cause i cant get 3 wicks to hold the wire, cant see why tho, could just roll em together as one, and they should work as a 3mm. If i can use other setup´s like 2x2mm + 1mm, plz tell me. Sure I read Imeo talking about 3.5mm somewhere, so why not 4mm, haha
Think that´s all I can come up with atm, and I didnt even recieved my awaiting Penelope yet.
I read so many good things about it, just cant wait much longer. Been vaping for 1 year now, its time to leave cartoz in the dust for good. Next big thing must be Proteus, those 2 would make a perfect match.
Hope this will help others aswell - GG4Life
PS. Sry for my bad english, hope u understand anything.
Having my Penelope inc. from Greece, crossed fingers it will arrive one of these days, just wanna get some wire & wick in stock, so i can find the perfect setup from the start off.
Have so many questions I must admit, after reading for the past week or so, hope u can forgive me.
1. NR. Is it possible to use Nickle crome wire for the 2 none resistance wires, everyone only mention silver wire. Been looking on wires.co.uk. Else i just get the 0.2mm Soft Fine Silver Wire - Ref: SI0200-010.
2. AWG / SWG. In this thread everyone mention wire in gauges.
wires.co.uk uses SWG like "0.200mm 36 SWG - 34.4 ohms per metre". And as Torqueguy said, the best for HV are the nr 36. thats where I get confused. 36 SWG would burn ur head clean off, heeh. I would need a conversion table to read AWG numbers compared to SWG. The Conversion table tells me that 36 AWG = 0.1270mm and 36 SWG = 0.193mm. Not sure if Kanthal and Nickle crome have the same resistance tho.
In US they use AWG (American Wire Gauge) & in EU SWG (Imperial Standard Wire Gauge).
3. Wire. Plz clarify and enlighten me gentlemen, I wanna get some wire for both 6,4 volt and 3,7 volt. I will need 3 different types, now that i can use the no resistance wire with both setups. It should make something like 2,8 - 3,2 ohm for 6,4 volt and about 1.5 - 1,7 ohm for 3.7 volt, is that way off?
Hope someone have some experience with that on Penelope. Heard that u need a lower ohm on Penelope than on a regular catomizer / atomizer. And ofc. I can make the coil a little longer / shorter to fit the desired ohms, but only within a certain limit. I have no idea how many cm. an average normal coil are, so kinda hard to predict exactly. Plz guide me so I can get all 3 types of wire home before i recieve my penelope.
My guess with a 4cm coil would be : (keep in mind that i have no idea how long an average coil are.)
0.2mm Soft Fine Silver Wire - Ref: SI0200-010 - No resistance wire
0.132mm 39 SWG - Ref: NC0132-010M - 78.9 ohms per metre - For 6,4 Volt
0.200mm 36 SWG - Ref: NC0200-050 - 34.4 ohms per metre - For 3.7 Volt
4. Wick Can only get my hands on 1mm and 2mm wicks atm, and from what I read on forum, 3mm are the way to go. Atleast for the wick that have to go down the channel´s on each side. Is it possible to use 3x1mm all the way?
Or even 1x2mm + 2x1mm? Just a little worried that it will flod, cause the channels arent closed completely, even tho all setup mentioned are 3mm combinded. Maybe even short circuit cause i cant get 3 wicks to hold the wire, cant see why tho, could just roll em together as one, and they should work as a 3mm. If i can use other setup´s like 2x2mm + 1mm, plz tell me. Sure I read Imeo talking about 3.5mm somewhere, so why not 4mm, haha
Think that´s all I can come up with atm, and I didnt even recieved my awaiting Penelope yet.
I read so many good things about it, just cant wait much longer. Been vaping for 1 year now, its time to leave cartoz in the dust for good. Next big thing must be Proteus, those 2 would make a perfect match.
Hope this will help others aswell - GG4Life
PS. Sry for my bad english, hope u understand anything.
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Weird. Made a coil last night 1.1 inch 32g kanthal. It was 2.8ohms!!
Guess I have to practice. Can't get a lr coil without using the pre-mades if I tried!
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Guess I have to practice. Can't get a lr coil without using the pre-mades if I tried!
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Hi. quik question..im making good coils...1.8ish (i like em) they last for a couple days and then get all gunked up. i see you guys say dry burn to get rid of this. do i just do a series of short burst burns? and itll eventually ash up? is that the concept?
Just the thread i´ve been looking for
Having my Penelope inc. from Greece, crossed fingers it will arrive one of these days, just wanna get some wire & wick in stock, so i can find the perfect setup from the start off.
Have so many questions I must admit, after reading for the past week or so, hope u can forgive me.
1. NR. Is it possible to use Nickle crome wire for the 2 none resistance wires, everyone only mention silver wire. Been looking on wires.co.uk. Else i just get the 0.2mm Soft Fine Silver Wire - Ref: SI0200-010.
2. AWG / SWG. In this thread everyone mention wire in gauges.
wires.co.uk uses SWG like "0.200mm 36 SWG - 34.4 ohms per metre". And as Torqueguy said, the best for HV are the nr 36. thats where I get confused. 36 SWG would burn ur head clean off, heeh. I would need a conversion table to read AWG numbers compared to SWG. The Conversion table tells me that 36 AWG = 0.1270mm and 36 SWG = 0.193mm. Not sure if Kanthal and Nickle crome have the same resistance tho.
In US they use AWG (American Wire Gauge) & in EU SWG (Imperial Standard Wire Gauge).
3. Wire. Plz clarify and enlighten me gentlemen, I wanna get some wire for both 6,4 volt and 3,7 volt. I will need 3 different types, now that i can use the no resistance wire with both setups. It should make something like 2,8 - 3,2 ohm for 6,4 volt and about 1.5 - 1,7 ohm for 3.7 volt, is that way off?
Hope someone have some experience with that on Penelope. Heard that u need a lower ohm on Penelope than on a regular catomizer / atomizer. And ofc. I can make the coil a little longer / shorter to fit the desired ohms, but only within a certain limit. I have no idea how many cm. an average normal coil are, so kinda hard to predict exactly. Plz guide me so I can get all 3 types of wire home before i recieve my penelope.
My guess with a 4cm coil would be : (keep in mind that i have no idea how long an average coil are.)
0.2mm Soft Fine Silver Wire - Ref: SI0200-010 - No resistance wire
0.132mm 39 SWG - Ref: NC0132-010M - 78.9 ohms per metre - For 6,4 Volt
0.200mm 36 SWG - Ref: NC0200-050 - 34.4 ohms per metre - For 3.7 Volt
4. Wick Can only get my hands on 1mm and 2mm wicks atm, and from what I read on forum, 3mm are the way to go. Atleast for the wick that have to go down the channel´s on each side. Is it possible to use 3x1mm all the way?
Or even 1x2mm + 2x1mm? Just a little worried that it will flod, cause the channels arent closed completely, even tho all setup mentioned are 3mm combinded. Maybe even short circuit cause i cant get 3 wicks to hold the wire, cant see why tho, could just roll em together as one, and they should work as a 3mm. If i can use other setup´s like 2x2mm + 1mm, plz tell me. Sure I read Imeo talking about 3.5mm somewhere, so why not 4mm, haha
Think that´s all I can come up with atm, and I didnt even recieved my awaiting Penelope yet.
I read so many good things about it, just cant wait much longer. Been vaping for 1 year now, its time to leave cartoz in the dust for good. Next big thing must be Proteus, those 2 would make a perfect match.
Hope this will help others aswell - GG4Life
PS. Sry for my bad english, hope u understand anything.
Well since no one else has replied, I will give you my limited knowledge, although it looks to me like you have done your homework.
I use 30 awg silver wire for my NR, and 32 awg nichrome for my resistance wire which gives me low resistance coils. A good range for this wire thickness is .9 ohm to 2 ohm coils. The ideal length of any finished resistance wire will range from 1 to 1.75 inches depending on the thickness of your wick at the coil. 3 to 5 wraps is ideal for your coil. You will most likely need to use 3mm wick or the equivalent down the channels to prevent issues. I doubt that anything thicker than 3.5mm will fit in the channels.
I'm sorry, you'll have to do the conversions. Just know that the finished length of your resistance wire should be between 1 and 2 inches, then you can calculate whcih wire you need to give you the desired ohms.
1.5 ish ohm coils are good for 3.7v
I don't do high volt vaping but I would guess you would need about a 4 ohm coil for 7.4v
I hope that helps at least a little...and maybe someone else will add more information
You will want to unscrew the tank portion, then run hot water over your coil for a minute or so. Then with a paper towel tap the coil and wick in the channels gently to remove the excess moisture. Then do your dry burn and blow on the coil as you are doing it until the coil turns red. When you blow on the coil, you are removing the build up as It is burned off. Do this until you do not see anymore vapor. Once you refill, you first couple hits will be muted but will quickly vape like normal
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