I just got a 100ml bottle of Boba's in this morning. I get zero coconut from it. In fact, the only thing I can get from it so far is a pipe type tobacco and honey.
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Take a look at this mix, This could be why you get cotton candy.
Ive been using this for best part of a year now and can vouch for the change in flavour.
This was copied from an old thread by Dan Scubabatda
I have posted this I do not know how many times, but this is the same recipe I have been using since 2010:
TA (tobacco Absolute), and EM (Ethyl Maltol) is a great base. It allows to to add pretty much any other flavor to it. This is my tobbaco base concoction. Unfortunatly the seedmans darkens it up alittle, but it is fairly clear at 10%.
You will need the following:
Perfumers Apprentice - Cotton Candy 2 x 1oz
TOB506 Commercial Cigarette Concentrate 4 x 1/2oz
Perfumers Apprentice - tobacco Absolute (1. Pure) 1 x 2.5ml
Now, the cotton candy from perfumer apprentice is ethyl maltol suspended in PG @ 10%, warm the cotton candy and the 2.5ml of TA (tobacco absolute) in a sink of HOT water.
Get a 4oz bottle to add everything into, uncap the cotton candy and pour it all into the 4oz bottle, then uncap the TA, it will not be thick now as the hot bath has made it thinner. Use a pipette (note the TA will stain the pipette so use this pipette only for TA) and put .3ml of TA into the cotton candy (About 6 drops). Now cap the cotton candy and shake until it is mixed. Now add the seedmans concentrate to the cotton candy and shake until mixed.
The result is a approx 120ml of tobacco base that is very satisfying IMO @ 10%, and you can add hazelnut or peanut flavor to your mix to give it a nutty flavor. Add vanilla, black cherry, or caramel to give it those notes.
When adding menthol us it at 3% to the 7% tobacco base.
Well hope this helps.
Ive been using this for best part of a year now and can vouch for the change in flavour.
This was copied from an old thread by Dan Scubabatda
I have posted this I do not know how many times, but this is the same recipe I have been using since 2010:
TA (tobacco Absolute), and EM (Ethyl Maltol) is a great base. It allows to to add pretty much any other flavor to it. This is my tobbaco base concoction. Unfortunatly the seedmans darkens it up alittle, but it is fairly clear at 10%.
You will need the following:
Perfumers Apprentice - Cotton Candy 2 x 1oz
TOB506 Commercial Cigarette Concentrate 4 x 1/2oz
Perfumers Apprentice - tobacco Absolute (1. Pure) 1 x 2.5ml
Now, the cotton candy from perfumer apprentice is ethyl maltol suspended in PG @ 10%, warm the cotton candy and the 2.5ml of TA (tobacco absolute) in a sink of HOT water.
Get a 4oz bottle to add everything into, uncap the cotton candy and pour it all into the 4oz bottle, then uncap the TA, it will not be thick now as the hot bath has made it thinner. Use a pipette (note the TA will stain the pipette so use this pipette only for TA) and put .3ml of TA into the cotton candy (About 6 drops). Now cap the cotton candy and shake until it is mixed. Now add the seedmans concentrate to the cotton candy and shake until mixed.
The result is a approx 120ml of tobacco base that is very satisfying IMO @ 10%, and you can add hazelnut or peanut flavor to your mix to give it a nutty flavor. Add vanilla, black cherry, or caramel to give it those notes.
When adding menthol us it at 3% to the 7% tobacco base.
Well hope this helps.
Thanks for reposting this. Its exatcly the recipe I was referring to. Its also what I use, slightly modified, as a base for alot of mixes.
For those that dont know, TPA Tobacco Absolute Blend (in pg or alc base) is exactly Scubatdan's origional recipe as Menthologiat posted, premixed.
For those that dont know, TPA Tobacco Absolute Blend (in pg or alc base) is exactly Scubatdan's origional recipe as Menthologiat posted, premixed.
I was vaping some BB, trying to see if my brain can identify any other notes after reading what others are putting in their recipes. I just don't get coconut or cinnamon at all. I get lots of Chocolate and Raisins. I'm thinking it's a Chocolate Pipe Tobacco and Rum Raisin.
Yep I get a chocolate and raisin note. Chocolate is in it. The raisin note is from the tobacco, ta/seedmans mix. The cinnamon is there. Again, put some on your tongue and you"ll know. Again all flavors outside of the tobaccos used are background notes. They arent supposed to stick out well, but rather blend well. Im mixing stuff now. Ill know more. Im also gonna do a batch just with graham craker and chocolate, no cinnamon. Its possible the cinnamon note I get is from a graham cracker flavor.
Know more tomorrow.
Know more tomorrow.
Im hoping you read my recent posts. The raisin note in Bobas is from tobacco absolute. That raisin note is drawn out more by the additikn of seedmans commercial concentrate. It becomes especially present as a TA based juice ages. If seedmans has been added it becomes more prevalent. Seedmans commercial can be purchased online and mixed into VG. Its primarialy used on tobacco leaf to flavor tobacco for smoking.
If you still believe bacon has something to do with it (there was no bacon flavoring available on the market when bobas was created to my knowledge) then Id suggest adding chocolate and maybe brown sugar or graham cracker.
Brown sugar and chocolate with bacon would prolly be a suprisingly good vape. I know they make "candied bacon" by sprinkling brown sugar over it and broiling it on each side in the oven. Some even cover it with chocolate after. Im a kitchen guru, and my palatte is usually spot on. Theres no bacon flavoring in bobas, but give it a shot.
If you still believe bacon has something to do with it (there was no bacon flavoring available on the market when bobas was created to my knowledge) then Id suggest adding chocolate and maybe brown sugar or graham cracker.
Brown sugar and chocolate with bacon would prolly be a suprisingly good vape. I know they make "candied bacon" by sprinkling brown sugar over it and broiling it on each side in the oven. Some even cover it with chocolate after. Im a kitchen guru, and my palatte is usually spot on. Theres no bacon flavoring in bobas, but give it a shot.
Is the PA Commercial Tobacco Flavor Concentrate the same as TOB506 Commercial Cigarette Concentrate?
Commercial Tobacco Flavor Concentrate (SM)
Commercial Tobacco Flavor Concentrate (SM)
The link you provided from wizard is the seedmans concentrate I use, and where I buy it from as well.
For what it's worth...
I had my wife try BB last night. She had never vaped it before. She's got an excellent palate. I asked her what she tasted and she immediately said "Oatmeal raisin cookie."
I'm not able to detect the cinnamon that may or may not be present in BB, but her description of an oatmeal raisin cookie leads me to believe it's there, but in the background.
Please keep us updated on your progress, Buffaloguy. I like your enthusiasm and am looking forward to your results.
I had my wife try BB last night. She had never vaped it before. She's got an excellent palate. I asked her what she tasted and she immediately said "Oatmeal raisin cookie."
I'm not able to detect the cinnamon that may or may not be present in BB, but her description of an oatmeal raisin cookie leads me to believe it's there, but in the background.
Please keep us updated on your progress, Buffaloguy. I like your enthusiasm and am looking forward to your results.
I just baked some Pillsbury Oatmeal Raisin cookies and added chocolate chips. It's a match according to my taste buds. When I vape BB, I get a hint of cinnamon with high notes of Chocolate and Raisin. Eating these cookies and vaping BB is like crack. 
Just a note of interest I found amusing. Did you know there is a "Star Wars Cookbook". One of the recipes is called "Wookie Cookies".
Wookie Cookies Recipe - Food.com - 292038
They have brown sugar, chocolate, cinnamon, and vanilla.
On to my results. Its a toss up at this point. I am certain on the ingredients I am using, just not of percentages.
As for the tobacco part it is indeed TA and Seedmans. A pre mix of one part Tobacco Absolute Blend (alc) (in Bobas case this would be TA pure mixed down into VG and then made via Scubatdan's recipe.... but the alc blend will give similar results once the alc has evaporated) and two part seedmans commercial concentrate.
I am positive on this mix. I have no doubts this is the tobacco base for bobas. The percentage used however I need more testing Its likely from the samples I made so far its between 12-15% tobacco flavoring. I tried 12% last night and it was FAR closer to actual Bobas than 10%.
I removed using cinnamon danish from one mix. Instead I upped the graham cracker to 2% and double chocolate at 2% (both again tpa). I could still get the cinnamon note from the graham cracker but that butteryness was missing so I need to go back and make a mix with NO graham cracker and just cinnamon danish to compare.
I am confident and sure that the ingredients I have been using will make a VERY accurate bobas once percentages are hashed out.
Anyone who want to help have at it. If you have TA, seedmans commercial, and cinnamon danish, graham cracker, or double choclate (all tpa flavors) I could use a hand on this. Ill be happy to answer any questions.
Im absolutely certain Im close and have nearly cracked it. More to do yet tho... and I need to watch the mixes I have made to see how they mature as well.
Wookie Cookies Recipe - Food.com - 292038
They have brown sugar, chocolate, cinnamon, and vanilla.
On to my results. Its a toss up at this point. I am certain on the ingredients I am using, just not of percentages.
As for the tobacco part it is indeed TA and Seedmans. A pre mix of one part Tobacco Absolute Blend (alc) (in Bobas case this would be TA pure mixed down into VG and then made via Scubatdan's recipe.... but the alc blend will give similar results once the alc has evaporated) and two part seedmans commercial concentrate.
I am positive on this mix. I have no doubts this is the tobacco base for bobas. The percentage used however I need more testing Its likely from the samples I made so far its between 12-15% tobacco flavoring. I tried 12% last night and it was FAR closer to actual Bobas than 10%.
I removed using cinnamon danish from one mix. Instead I upped the graham cracker to 2% and double chocolate at 2% (both again tpa). I could still get the cinnamon note from the graham cracker but that butteryness was missing so I need to go back and make a mix with NO graham cracker and just cinnamon danish to compare.
I am confident and sure that the ingredients I have been using will make a VERY accurate bobas once percentages are hashed out.
Anyone who want to help have at it. If you have TA, seedmans commercial, and cinnamon danish, graham cracker, or double choclate (all tpa flavors) I could use a hand on this. Ill be happy to answer any questions.
Im absolutely certain Im close and have nearly cracked it. More to do yet tho... and I need to watch the mixes I have made to see how they mature as well.
It's good to see you so interested. I have the TA sludge form so I'll be breaking it down into a VG dilute soon enough. My order for Boba's will be placed most likely this week or next, depending on personal life schedule. Once I have Boba's to sample, I'll begin working on thoughts and recipes centering around the TA VG. I'm confused about something though. The TFA TA dilution says "Tobacco Absolute 10%" if I recall correctly, but the consensus is to use 2 drops per 10ml, which isn't 10%. Whats the deal here?
The idea is to make the TA ,2 drops per 10ml , Then 10% from the 10ml to your mix.
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