My diy liquids make me hoarse!

[FastRope71]

Make a small batch of 0nic (say 3ml) with your Ess. Depot. PG and VG. Keep the flavor and see if there is an improvement.

I have been ordering 1liter of the Vaperstek Peppery UK sourced 100mg nicotine @ $35 per liter every payday. I don't notice any pepper taste to it at all. Good stuff.

I also use Essential depot VG, and Tractor Supply PG, no problems (unless my throat is already a bit dry, like when I first wake up).

I also add 5-10% of my mix with 0.5% (0.005) saline. I use an rda so the arguments about deposits of salt are irrelevant to me. 5% is for 50% or higher PG mix, and 10% is for 100% VG (90% after saline added).

 

[shgilman]

Ya know FastRope71, that is a bright idea. I'll try a batch tomorrow and post back results.

 

[Kenna]

Ron, That's the It Could Be Worse defense.

 

[Jimi D.]

Solution for perfect juice.

Vapers Tek Nicotine

Froggy's Fog Humectants

Distilled Water

European Flavorings such as Inawera and Flavour Art

 

[shgilman]

I made about 10ml with zero nicotine and the stuff was great. After vaping about 4ml my voice is as clear as a canary singing on a spring morning, (cough, cough). No hoarseness at all.
Now my nicotine mix was only 10mg. not too strong in my opinion. So can somebody check my math:
30ml total batch
50/50 PV/VG Nicotine @100mg
Should be 3ml to batch for 10mg strength
Thanks!!

 

[fogging_katrider]

Your math is correct.
I like to keep in mind the simple math, even though the mixing calculator you're using should take care of figuring out your nic base needed to arrive at your target final nic strength. It never hurts to double check to verify the program just for peace of mind sake.
Its really easy. Target mg x bottle size = total miligrams of nic in the bottle. (total bottle divided by base strength = number of ml base needed) IE: target 10mg per ml x 30 ml bottle = 300 mg total ml nic in the bottle. So in order to make that 30 ml bottle you would need 300 mgs of nic or exactly 3 ml of your 100 mg nic base


Anyway, on another thought, perhaps your cotton wicking is on the tight side giving you slightly dry hits. That can cause a sore throat effect in short order. Maybe your friends diy e liquids are thinner than your diy mix and thats why they're wicking wetter than your mixes
Maybe try rewicking with a little less cotton in the coil, or close off the air flow adjustment some so the aerotank pulls a little more juice into the wick and drop the wattage down to 7.5 or 8 and see how it feels.

 

[shgilman]

By bud's mixes look thinner than mine. I think he's sitting at 70/30 maybe 60/40 base mix. When I rewick with cotton, I make sure it is not so tight that you can't pull it out when changing. But it has to be big enough so you don't get gurgling and flooding. I set the coil about mid height. Any lower and it will flood. My 50/50 mixes give great clouds. If I vape a lower wattage, (currently 10 watts) the flavor is muted and the vape is almost cold, (at a 50/50 mix). By buddy suggested trying 5mg/ml instead of my current 10mg/ml. Again, I'm using MFS Nicotine at 50/50 PG/VG, 100mg.
BTW, I'm using the ejuicemeup application.

 

[shgilman]

I think I'll try another 10ml batch with 5mg of Nicotine. Guess 10mg is too strong for me. Its been almost three years since I quit smoking 2 packs a day for 40 years. Been vaping ever since. Funny that my Nicotine seems to be stronger that by buddy's. or store-bought. Or should I toss it when my RTS Nicotine arrives next week?

 

[shgilman]

Ok, one last summary post on this thread.
The culprit seemed two pronged.
1. The 10mg Nicotine was irritating my throat.
2. My crockpot steeping was turning the mixes harsh, (too hot? was using glass).
I have since moved down to 5mg and I'm doing well. With steeping eliminated, the mixes are now smooth and tasty. I guess I'll store them in my closet and let them do their thing naturally. It could be that even the low setting on my crockpot might of been too high and was messing up my mixes.
I have picked up some EM, Koolada and have MTS and some TFA flavors on order.
Stumbled on a great BHT/Black and sweet/black cherry mix that is KILLER. Nice soft taste and very vapable. That's why I wanted the Koolada. It could use just a "touch" of coolness without any minty or menthol overtones to make this a perfect evening vape after vaping all those tobaccos all day.
My thanks and gratitude to everyone's advice.

 

[dannyv45]

The thing that will help the most with harshness is getting the Nicotine level right. I always recommend concentrating on the base by mixing up different strengths lets say 6mg, 12mg, 18mg and 24mg then vape each one without flavoring and decide whats best. If 6mg is to light and 12 is to strong then your sweet spot is somewhere in the middle so then try 8mg or 9mg. There's no set rule that you have to settle on the common 6,12,18 or 24mg.

When you find your NIC strength then your ready to flavor.

Be careful with the EM or MTS they will mute flavor if you use to much.

 

[shgilman]

The thing that will help the most with harshness is getting the Nicotine level right. I always recommend concentrating on the base by mixing up different strengths lets say 6mg, 12mg, 18mg and 24mg then vape each one without flavoring and decide whats best. If 6mg is to light and 12 is to strong then your sweet spot is somewhere in the middle so then try 8mg or 9mg. There's no set rule that you have to settle on the common 6,12,18 or 24mg.

When you find your NIC strength then your ready to flavor.

Be careful with the EM or MTS they will mute flavor if you use to much.

DannyV45,
You are correct about the Nicotine levels. I have been steadily reducing my Nicotine levels over time. 5mg seems to be okay and I do not have any Nicotine fits or over vape. My EM additions have been to a couple of tobacco flavors that seemed harsh. Currently I haven't gone above 1%. I have some new flavors from TFA, (again tobaccos) that I'll mix a few 10ml batches to test. I do enjoy a cherry flavor in a couple, (black honey tobacco) and I have even mixed one test batch with black cherry and sweet cherry, Very interesting taste. Not too much into fruits, sours or candy.

 

[cjcaddy]

I had the same problem, I would lose my voice after talking just a few minutes. Added 4.5% saline as recommended by we2rcool and haven't had a problem since

 

[dannyv45]

I had the same problem, I would lose my voice after talking just a few minutes. Added 4.5% saline as recommended by we2rcool and haven't had a problem since

I had the same problem and saline has helped me as well. But what has helped more was reducing nicotine content. You'd be surprised at how dropping just a few mg's makes such a big difference. And your body will never miss it.

 

[shgilman]

I had the same problem and saline has helped me as well

I can always give it a try. No harm in it. Used to actually make the stuff when I worked at Teleflex as a Validation Engineer.

 

[dannyv45]

re-read my post I edited it.

 

[Jeremiah Lawrence]

The nicotine I have is stronger than 100mg. When I mix it to 3 mg for sub ohm builds it hits my throat as if its 6mg. At 10mg is like 15mg in my tanks so I've been almost halving the % to desired results.

 

[dannyv45]

The nicotine I have is stronger than 100mg. When I mix it to 3 mg for sub ohm builds it hits my throat as if its 6mg. At 10mg is like 15mg in my tanks so I've been almost halving the % to desired results.

Was it packaged and sold as 100mg and did you test it to see what it actually is. My friend if you don't know the actual strength of the NIC your dealing with your playing with fire.

 

[Jeremiah Lawrence]

Was it packaged and sold as 100mg and did you test it to see what it actually is. My friend if you don't know the actual strength of the NIC your dealing with your playing with fire.

It was labeled 100 mg from nude nicotine it seems stronger in my mixes. I don't have a way to test to verify but I'll start checking how to do that it wouldn't be a bad routine to get into. Thanks Danny!

 

[dannyv45]

You can buy a test kit at wizardlabs and they also have instructions.