My e-juice starts tasting like crap towards end of day! Any Help?

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my4jewels

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Yes, I am a flavor junkie as well. I just can't imagine being any other way. The only flavors I don't vape are tobacco flavors, although I don't mind ry4 once in a while.
Ok...I just reread your op and you're saying that the ones that taste like crap to you the next day taste fine...sorry, I missed that the first time. If that's the case then too much flavoring likely isn't your problem.

I have at least 2 flavors (2 pvs and multiple cartos with different flavors...sometimes even different nic concentrations) sitting in front of me at all times. Usually a sweet desert type flavor...something rich, and a lighter fruit/citrus or cola flavor...something light, and I switch off between them. I've always done this because frankly I can't think of a single flavor that I want to taste all day long, everyday.

Isn't it cool that we went from burning tobacco leaves to even having the option of the vast array of flavors?! :) Try skipping around..??
 

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Sorry late to this thread, but it is an interesting read. While my experience is not as an exact timetable as the OP, I did notice something kinda' like I go through.

I have some mixes that I switch to when things get odd to me. I don't have quite the yuck factor as the OP, but sometimes my normal rotation is just not appealing.

When that happens I switch to sour mixes or sometimes real light tastes. For sour I usually go with DaMulta's Sweet Tart and for real light I usually go with a mix that is mostly FA's Hypnotic Mist at 10%. The Hypnotic Mist is such a light flavor that I cannot taste it in the morning, but in the evening it is nice and tasty.

I'm wondering if the OP's sinus has a morning coating that slowly clears as the day wears on? Maybe it is not so much an internal coating as it is an external trigger that throws the smeller cells into overdrive?
 

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I find that in the morning, I wake up my taste buds with coffee, and my vaping is wonderfully tasty. I lose it just a little during the afternoon, not enough to matter though. It's best in the evening. I've been vaping for over 9 months, and I feel like my tastebuds are still getting better.

Up until a month ago, I was still going through periods of not tasting my juice. I feel like it's finally starting to level out. I guess 40+ years of thise menthol analogs really did a number on me, wish I could take it all back...

It always seemed to me that having a cup of coffee helped to refresh my taste. I have been to candle parties where they passed around coffee beans for everyone to smell to refresh their sense of smell. Maybe it works with taste, too.
 
Hi Gang...

OK, I've spent the last couple of days trying to figure all of this out,
and here are a few things I think are going on.

First off, I think I'm going through a change period. My sense of smell
and taste come and go, and when it's on, it's really on and I can
taste/smell everything. At other times, it's like I'm still smoking because
I can't smell or taste anything (or very little).

What I've been doing that seems to be working for the time being, is
using stronger flavors in the morning hours, then switching to lighter
mixes in the afternoon/evenings. But I have dropped my percentages
a lot since posting. I was mixing all of my fruit flavors anywhere from
30% up to 40% and above, and it worked great... for awhile. :)

Now, since I've been going through this smell/taste changing, I am
finding that even 10% is way to strong for me now. I just mixed a
batch of LorAnn's Watermelon this evening at 10%, and had to add
more unflavored liquid to the mix and bring it down around 7% before
it was getting about right.

So, I guess it's just my body changing from getting off of the smokes.
I guess it's been about a month and a half now (Dec 24th), so I should
expect it from time to time.

I appreciate all of the replies and input, it has been a big help at
figuring out what was/is going on. To be honest, I'm glad I can start
cutting back on the flavoring, it will help to save money. ;)

And yes, it is awesome being able to pick through any of 100 or more
flavors to choose from, and vape 4 or 5 different ones for the day.
Could have never done this on analogs! Sweeeet!

Patrick
 
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And I thought I was going crazy. :blink: I have the same thing happening to me & chalked it up to just having ruined taste buds from 40+ years of analog abuse. My juices that taste like heaven in the AM taste "soapy" & almost gooey in the evening. I've only been off the analogs for over 2 months, so hopefully this will improve.

I am mixing at 10 - 20% depending on the flavorings, so I will try lowering the %age. And funny that My4Jewels said something about coffee because my AM vapes are marvelous. Hmmm.... I do mix juices flavors throughout the day. Juices & drinks in the AM and bakery items in the PM. Perhaps I'll switch that up & go opposite.

I am having a difficult time with cooking too. I am/was a wonderful cook & now I'm having a difficult time getting foods to taste like they used to taste (everything smoked I assume). Told my DH that he has to send me to cooking school so I can relearn. My poor, sad taste buds :(
 

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What I've been doing that seems to be working for the time being, is
using stronger flavors in the morning hours, then switching to lighter
mixes in the afternoon/evenings. But I have dropped my percentages
a lot since posting. I was mixing all of my fruit flavors anywhere from
30% up to 40% and above, and it worked great... for awhile.

I have found that flavor with vaping is much like using salt or eating hot peppers. Your taste buds get used to whatever strength of flavor you are using and want more to get back to where you were.
Now I mix my juice to the lowest levels I can and after not using that flavor for a while and keep it at that level. Changing flavors throughout the day helps but isn't foolproof.
It does help to mix my your own flavors for the battery voltage and carto ohms that you are using,
 

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It sounds like a similar issue I have as well. I just get really burnt out on a single flavor if I vape it for too long. I have a rotation of three flavors in tanks at home at the moment. I cannot wait until I get more testing done so I can expand upon that. It's especially bad when I leave the house for a long day with just one flavor in a mega carto. by the end of the day I am dying to get home and vape something else. but I figure, once I test more flavors I'll be in a better position with more arrows in the quiver. and it no matter how bad it gets, it's still better than going back to the analogs.
 

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Often towards the end of the day my juice seems to taste sour and scratchy. I've noticed that long time ego at first thinking it was a carto and sometimes maybe the remaining juice in bottle going bad. But it's not. I think the taste palette just gets tired of the same flavor and reacts to it. I fix this simply by changing to different juice flavor. You're not crazy, I think it's common.
 

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I have the same problem with wacky taste buds even after 2 years. Figure it's just something I have to live with for smoking 40 years and causing irreversible damage. Sometimes I can use a mouth rinse with mint and that will restore them for awhile. Eating also helps, seems to bring them back to life. If I vape something with mint as soon as the flavor drops that keeps it from getting too bad. If I didn't switch off with several different flavors throughout the day it would be much worse. Vaping a fruit then when that starts to taste blah I switch to a chocolate and when that starts to taste blah I switch to vanilla and so on. If I have a heavy vape day it's harder to restore them and usually have to just wait until morning. Don't give up just customize your vaping habits to work around this dysfunction. :)

what GoodDog said ^^^^^ I agree and I've only been vaping about 6 months. I definite notice differences in my vape flavors depending on what I'm drinking (water, soda, coffee, a beer or other alcohol) and especially after I've eaten something my vapes change again! so I thought it was me, but now I see other people have this issue too :blink: I have 6 different flavors at the ready throughout the day until I switch to 6 others LOL :vapor:
 

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... I envy the people who have found their perfect all-day vape:closedeyes:

My wife has a cat that won't eat anything but the cat food she buys for it. Doesn't like tuna, fish, chicken, cheese, or anything else you'd think a cat might enjoy as a treat.

The cat I can almost understand. An all-day vape completely boggles my mind.
 

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1) I think there's a point we need to stop blaming smoking for everything. That's all over the ECF--well, I stopped smoking 9 years ago and I'm still recovering...

2) This is an effect of vaping and blasting our mouths with concentrated flavors. I've lost my taste more times with 7 weeks of DIY than with 2-3 flavors of Johnson Creek for a year.

3) I had this last night. Vaped Capella's coconut at 15% and it was great... for three hits. I've been blaming the Vivi for the Capella flavor muting... But I just rewicked with cotton... I had a drink of flavored coffee and could taste coconut for 1 hit... Then I took some TPA pineapple 15% and mixed it in the same nic %. And I could taste pineapple each hit , every hit for 50+ hits. So what I've blamed on the vivi is the way Capella flavors work. And I've seen other posts about Capella's of people not tasting the flavor after a few hits--it's not always "too strong" operator error. Some may be part of the flavors.

4) That's why I hate this DIY steeping--it doesn't always make the flavor better. It's always different (maybe weeks+ in a closet). JC tasted like JC day 1, day 7, day 14... my DIY doesn't and makes me wonder if sometimes this is a result of degredation/oxidation or a reaction to other flavors/heat...
 
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I just ordered a couple dozen of Capellas flavors to try DIYing ...hoping I can learn from what I read on here...I'll start with very low percentages and let them steep for a few weeks before vaping. Got a dozen TPA flavors and some FlavourArt too so this will be very interesting experimentation! My goal, eventually, is to get a few flavors that I can consistently count on to taste the same whenever I make them, as opposed to the hit-and-miss I seem to be getting from alot of vendors. What tastes good this month, same flavor the next month is crappy from the same vendor. Wondering if it's the brand of nic base juice playing a role in the inconsistencies and not just the flavor drops?
 

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I have those flavors, but If I vape too much I start to taste funky stuff which wasnt there. I don't have this over a day, but for me its over a long period. Thats why I need so many different tanks/carto's/rebuildables. I just need to vape more menthol, which seems to work for me. After I vaped menthol for a day or 2, everything gets the shiny flavor again
 

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Capella's did it to me again last night. 15% peach which steeped all day--took 3 hot hits and it blew all my taste out instantly. Rest was water... I normally vape at 3.7... was at 4.3 or so--seems like hit singed the tip of my tongue a bit. Interestingly, the tip of my tongue felt a bit singed last time. Just looked it up:

Tongue - areas for taste

Corresponds with sweet taste on tongue--my fruit was EM laced as well. Hmmm... Wonder if the hot/higher volt juice makes it more prone to overstimulate taste buds...


Well here we go: From web:

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Chemoreceptors in the taste buds of your tongue require a liquid medium in order for the flavors to bind into the receptor molecules. If you don't have liquid, you won't see results. Now, technically you can use water for this purpose rather than saliva. However, saliva contains amylase, an enzyme that acts on sugars and other carbohydrates, so without saliva sweet and starchy foods may taste different from what you expect.You have separate receptors for different tastes, such as sweet, salty, sour and bitter. The sweet-detecting receptors are grouped near the tip of your tongue, with the salt-detecting taste buds beyond them, the sour-tasting receptors along the sides of your tongue and the bitter buds near the back of the tongue. If you like, experiment with flavors depending on where you place the food on your tongue. Your sense of smell is closely tied to your sense of taste, too. You also need moisture to smell molecules. This is why dry foods were chosen for this experiment. You can smell/taste a strawberry, for example, before it even touches your tongue!

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Guess that explains why I can't taste my sweet stuff--been low on water recently. I didn't know the role of saliva/water with taste.

So if we chain vape a ton and lower the saliva by drying out our mouths, sweet juices probably suck while other juices taste fine. So tobacco tastes fine 24/7 but not Ralikar's super EM coconut/peach!
 
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