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My first Vivi Nova

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KillFace

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I love my cartos, but you guys seem to like it so much so I finally ordered one. And now I have a few questions.

First, how do I tell what resistance a coil is from looking at it?

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There are no markings on these. I'm assuming these 3 are all 2.8 ohms as the one that was assembled turned out to be 2.2. I guess the main question is, can I check the resistance with my Provari without juice in it and without burning it?

What kind of a break in period do you experience?

Which resistance coil do you enjoy the most?

How long does a coil last you?

I haven't been satisfied with the LR coil yet. Not a big amount of vapour... Hopefully it gets better.

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I think it looks pretty good ;-)
 

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Coil resistance is laser etched on the sides of the heads that I've seen.

The provari will tell you, there is nothing to burn if you measure them dry like carto filler. The wicks are silica, no harm in dry burning these.

Break in for me is more like "Fiddling in" period, sometimes none sometimes a bit.

I think all the different heads use the same guage wire, so if you have higher resistance heads, you get more wraps on the coil, which I feel gets you more vapor. The 1.8s have like three wraps showing, kinda woosy lookin', maybe why you're not getting much vapor

I get two-ish weeks from the heads, sometimes much more, I clean them often (wash, dry burn the devil out of them, good to go)
 

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There are no markings on these. I'm assuming these 3 are all 2.8 ohms as the one that was assembled turned out to be 2.2. I guess the main question is, can I check the resistance with my Provari without juice in it and without burning it?

They are lazer etched onto the head itself, it will look a little biege but it will say 1.8, 2.4 or 2.8

What kind of a break in period do you experience?
on a new coil head? Fill and seal it up, lay it on it's side say five minutes (little trick i learnt) then vape. sometimes it will take half a tank, thought it is recommended to wait through about three tanks of juice before it gets past the break in period (from what i have been reading by a lot of veterans on other sites)

Which resistance coil do you enjoy the most?
1.8ohm @ 4.2 Volts with a 70/30 pg/vg gives great TH and vapor and nice flavor

How long does a coil last you?
this varies. Some coils last for months, others last a few days. Just the Nature of the beast.

I haven't been satisfied with the LR coil yet. Not a big amount of vapour... Hopefully it gets better.
IBNe9.jpg
I think it looks pretty good ;-)

It does look great, but something i had noticed personally? The metal body seriously cuts the output of the vivi nova in a little more then a half. If you have the clear plastic body try it that way and see if it will change things for the better for you.
 
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All the heads ive seen have that laser etched resistance mentioned by darren its right between the wicks. My preferred heads are the 2.4 @ approx 4v on my twists... the heads do have a long break in period, Once you get over that hump I'm sure you'll love the VIVI.

I have two VIVI's one with the black aluminum tank for my black twist and one with the stainless steel tank for my stainless twist, they look pretty slick. I didn't notice any vapor production change from switching to the aluminum tanks.

A couple of things to watch out for though... when you unscrew the top to refill make sure the head doesn't unscrew a bit, some times the seal at the silicone sticks a bit.

also when unscrewing from the battery/mod ect. dont hold the tank to unscrew, hold the metal at the bottom, when the vivi is nicely snugged you may inadvertantly loosen the tank from the base of the vivi.
 

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As mentioned a few times, the omhs should be labelled in a light gray colour, above the threads, below the silicone cap - if they aren't, perhaps they're clones or a screw up at the factory. Personally I like 2.4 Ω at about 4 volts as well and I wasn't a fan of the LR head I tried. The break in period for me is usually within the first tank, though sometimes it takes a tank or two before it's working well. I've always had heads last a few weeks or longer. I have yet to have one die completely, they just stop performing well eventually.

It does look great, but something i had noticed personally? The metal body seriously cuts the output of the vivi nova in a little more then a half. If you have the clear plastic body try it that way and see if it will change things for the better for you.

How could a metal body affect how the vivi works ?
 
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It does look great, but something i had noticed personally? The metal body seriously cuts the output of the vivi nova in a little more then a half. If you have the clear plastic body try it that way and see if it will change things for the better for you.

Why would the metal body affect it in any way??
 

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Why would the metal body affect it in any way??

You're questioning e-cig stuff at 4:46a.m?! Just go with the flow buddy, it might just work. God knows, nothing about the Vivi's follow conventional logic. :p
 

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Looking at the heads in OP, it may be a clone. Proper Vivi nova's that I've bought come in a box with the 2 unpackaged (no pill wrap) heads and 1 pre-attached, and the threading on those also looks a wee bit long. I could be completely wrong though, since any clone I've used doesn't have those specific metal bits in the top silicone sleeve. That said, I have a number of clones and most perform as good or better (even the ones with the v1 side holes), so I guess it really depends on who's making them.

As stated, resistance should be etched into the side of the head. The actual resistance can vary though, I've had 1.8s read from 1.7 to 2.3, and 2.4s up to 3.0.

As to testing, I've not tested a completely dry coil yet. You can put a single drop directly on it if you're paranoid like me. Break in time for me is a few seconds, I generally fill it, add a single drop directly to coil and let 'er rip shortly after. Once it gets around half full (I'm an optimist) I find I have to tilt n twirl regularly to keep the wicks saturated, though I tend to chain vape too.

I have no preference to resistance of coil since I adjust the v to match. Though on my unregulated PVs I use 2.4.
 

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You know it is interesting on so many levels that one has a different experience or see's a difference in taste or vapor it seems to be invalid.....so again i stand by what i said which is:

The metal body seriously cuts the output of the vivi nova in a little more then a half. If you have the clear plastic body try it that way and see if it will change things for the better for you.

:p seems i will have to wait the four or five months on this one too, after all that is what happened with a few other things i had said/noticed and is now the norm.......
 

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I.... I .. just...uh...and you.... but... illogic......danger...* brain broken * Sometimes I think misinformation is worse than no information... the difference being you can't increase your post count not posting anything.....we will have to agree to disagree :pop:

interesting....just here to increase post count....hmm.......well then for your better safety i best get out of vaping right? whats a 510 again? gee.....i need to wait a few years after being highly edumicated
 

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It's not that folks don't believe your personal experience, it's just that we can't figure out HOW it could possibly happen since it's just what holds the liquid without coming into contact with any of the actual parts involved in the vaporization of it. That's all, just no logical reason it should be happening, and without a reason it's tough to accept as fact. You'd think more people would have spoken up about such a drastic difference in vapour between the two shells. Doubling by just changing the material is quite a large amount, and (I'd like to think) would be widely publicized by now considering how long they've been on market.

Next refill I'll pop on my unused aluminum shell and see how my personal experience is with it.

Ed* Didn't bother waiting, emptied and put on the metal tank. Noticing no difference in flavour or vapour. This is personal experience only though, using a black aluminum tank on a 3.5ml Vivi Nova Clone w/1.8Ohm head@3.7v.
 
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They are lazer etched onto the head itself, it will look a little biege but it will say 1.8, 2.4 or 2.8


on a new coil head? Fill and seal it up, lay it on it's side say five minutes (little trick i learnt) then vape. sometimes it will take half a tank, thought it is recommended to wait through about three tanks of juice before it gets past the break in period (from what i have been reading by a lot of veterans on other sites)


1.8ohm @ 4.2 Volts with a 70/30 pg/vg gives great TH and vapor and nice flavor


this varies. Some coils last for months, others last a few days. Just the Nature of the beast.



It does look great, but something i had noticed personally? The metal body seriously cuts the output of the vivi nova in a little more then a half. If you have the clear plastic body try it that way and see if it will change things for the better for you.

I have also found that the metal body cuts the output down. I have a black metal body, and it looks sick, but I dont like the way it vapes at all. It does seem to vape better with the plastic body. That said, I'm really not a fan of the VVN so far. As soon as I got my pyrex tank from VVV, my Vivi went to the shelf.
 

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I'm no scientist, still pretty new to vaping.... and i don't even have a ViVi Nova yet to try to replicate this... but from the varied accounts, it would *seem* as though perhaps there is another independent factor at play here. If different vapers are getting consistent but utterly different results, I'm thinking it has less to do with aluminum and plastic, and more to do with a condition that accompanies those.

Here's a wild stab in the dark..... could temperature be a factor? It seems reasonable to me to assume that the metal tanks tend to be cooler than the plastic. In a colder room, if the metal is cold, the juice would be colder and conceivably the vapor produced might be lessened. The plastic wouldn't be as bad. In a warmer room, if the aluminum isn't as cold, the vapor would be normal. So next question, what does everyone have their thermostats set at?
 

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The vivi nova has enough poor performance problems that you shouldn't even have to complicate matters with type of shell on a tank, temperature, or humidity. The thing just cannot keep up with a simple carto tank or rba. If it wasn't so cheap, I would probably hear more people complaining about the poor performance.
 

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I was thinking that too, Tyger.

Since I walk most everywhere, I'm giving the metal tanks a pass on my vivi. I've already left my lips on a metal driptip, and you don't have to teach me twice.
owie! It seldom gets that cold here, but I'll be careful of that. I'm kind of anxious to try a Nova with "full metal jacket" as I'm mad about crrrrazy hot cinnamon and I suspect it will stand up better than, say, a Stardust.... (which just EATS flavors anyway!.... everything is always muted out of my Stardust)
 
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