My friend can't get the hang of it.

[mariahpoo]

So DH and I have a friend that has been trying to vap (off ours) for 4-5 days. He still smokes because he coughs every single time he tries to vape. We tried describing how to inhale several times (every time he tries actually). And it does no good. He tries for about 5 minute at a time... and just can't get the hang of it. His view is that somking or the alternative (vaping) is supposed to be enjoyable. vaping is not that for him at all. Damn near coughs up a lung every single time he draws!

Are there some people that just never get it? It took DH a while but after 5 minutes of taking small hits he was use to it. After a day he was a pro.

We are using 12-10mg nic and 100%VG so I don't think it would be TH related.

 

[PsychOfMSE]

First off, I've seen you post DH a lot, who is DH? What does DH stand for?

Secondly, what setup is he using? Model, Voltage, Ohms, Carto/atty/Tank?

 

[Della Cirque]

My Mom is having the same issues. I have set her up with different pv's, cartos, atties, high vg/low pg, high pg/low vg, and tried a million times to show and explain that the draw is different. (she takes short, fast and deep inhales.) She seems to be having a little more luck with a Reo wearing a LR510 atty. Just keep offering different set ups and advice! Good luck!

 

[Della Cirque]

Congratulations on your almost a month cigarette free!

 

[mooreted]

It's Dear Husband or Damn Husband depending on the day.

I have a friend that can't seem to get the hang of it either. I hope they all can find something that works.

 

[QusieQ]

When I started I coughed an gagged for 7 days. I wonder if that is to much vg for a beginner. Vg is a lot wetter, in my opinion, cause it is thicker. Have him try a Pg, or at least a pg/vg mix higher in pg. It's been 20 days no analogs whatsoever and the coughing is gone for me.

I use a 80pg/20vg mix. Good luck to your friend!!

 

[Stosh]

Slow easy draws, time it if need be and try to make it last 6-7 seconds. Too fast a draw is like taking a huge bite of ice cream, or frozen Margarita = instant brain freeze... doesn't mean it's not good, just you took too much too fast.

 

[908Tracy]

The coughing does go away in time. Initially my boyfriend and I coughed terribly too. We also were still smoking at that time. Once we stopped smoking all together, the cough subsided. Tell them that Mariahpoo and mooreted. It just might give them the incentive to keep trying. **crosses fingers for them!**

 

[Amutt]

It took me a while before I stopped wanting to cough like a fiend. I just stuck it out and it eventually went away and no problems since.

 

[Off Topic]

Slow draws get too hot for me. I did it like the videos showed. I coughed.

I take frequent 2 second draws.

Think about how much you coughed learning how to smoke.

 

[Stosh]

If your slow draw is getting too hot, pulse the button a couple times while drawing.
If your finger is off the button, it can't stay hot long. Too much voltage into too little
resistance will make it hotter, finding your own balance that you like is as important
as finding a flavor you like.

 

[mariahpoo]

First off, I've seen you post DH a lot, who is DH? What does DH stand for?

Secondly, what setup is he using? Model, Voltage, Ohms, Carto/atty/Tank?

DH= dear husband

Stalk Joye 510 manuel.

 

[BloodWolf]

I started on 100% PG only because thats all Bloog had. But my coughing was minimal. Not sure if it was because of the 100% PG or what. But I know I was pretty determined to make it work somehow.

 

[mariahpoo]

Slow easy draws, time it if need be and try to make it last 6-7 seconds. Too fast a draw is like taking a huge bite of ice cream, or frozen Margarita = instant brain freeze... doesn't mean it's not good, just you took too much too fast.

He takes the longer draws into the mouth, but then it seems like he inhales to quick from his mouth into his lungs, and sometimes even holds it in too. So... idk. I think he is doing it wrong but doesn't understand... or idk.

It might be the vg... everyone is different. When I get my atty's I will hook him up with his own and he can try the 70/30 that I have.

 

[orachel]

I'd show him some links of youtube videos of people vaping. He can see what they do, and first of all maybe realize if he's just doing something wrong, or second, visually make the connection of how he could take shorter puffs and still keep the general idea the same way.

Also, have you tried having him vape un flavored eliquid? And how about an all VG liquid? If both of those seem to work, i'd get him on an organic VG liquid like Virgin Vapor. Some people flat out can't tolerate PG, and others can't vape sucralose. I don't know what kind of flavors he's trying but anything in the juice could be causing this reaction. Also, has he tried juice from different vendors? There was one vendor specifically that everything I vaped, I coughed.

 

[mariahpoo]

I'd show him some links of youtube videos of people vaping. He can see what they do, and first of all maybe realize if he's just doing something wrong, or second, visually make the connection of how he could take shorter puffs and still keep the general idea the same way.

Also, have you tried having him vape un flavored eliquid? And how about an all VG liquid? If both of those seem to work, i'd get him on an organic VG liquid like Virgin Vapor. Some people flat out can't tolerate PG, and others can't vape sucralose. I don't know what kind of flavors he's trying but anything in the juice could be causing this reaction. Also, has he tried juice from different vendors? There was one vendor specifically that everything I vaped, I coughed.

I didn't think of having him watch youtube videos because he watches us. But that may be a great idea.

He has been vaping my virgin vapors 100%vg and some JV 100%vg. I guess some people have a hard time with VG... so I am going to let him try the (i think its) 70/30 pg/vg That I got from a trade. I haven't tried it yet. But when I get my new atty's I will hook him up. He hasn't had a problem with any of the flavors (thank god). He likes the taste of vaping. So I just have to see if he can get the hang of it.

PS I still owe him a pack of cigs from when we smoked. Long story short He went to the store for us and it ended up being about $5 over the $$ I gave him. I would rather just buy him his first juice. You know.

 

[orachel]

You know, I got into a big conversation a while back with a woman with serious lung problems who was hacking bigtime on VG liquids. Didn't make sense to me until a person with asthma chimed in and said she couldn't vape much VG because the molecules of VG are larger than those of PG, and they irritated her airways. Neither of them coughed significantly with smoking. That's the only other thing I can think of. And yeah, nice bottle of juice instead of pack of death sticks definitely works!

Might want to post this in the health forum and see what the general consensus there is? Good luck! Hope he can work it out!

oh btw, re the youtube thing... all the people I've 'converted' live states away from me, so I just made the ludicrous mental leap that your friend was long distance. lol What can i say... I'm on cold medicine and not making much sense.

 

[mariahpoo]

You know, I got into a big conversation a while back with a woman with serious lung problems who was hacking bigtime on VG liquids. Didn't make sense to me until a person with asthma chimed in and said she couldn't vape much VG because the molecules of VG are larger than those of PG, and they irritated her airways. Neither of them coughed significantly with smoking. That's the only other thing I can think of. And yeah, nice bottle of juice instead of pack of death sticks definitely works!

Might want to post this in the health forum and see what the general consensus there is? Good luck! Hope he can work it out!

oh btw, re the youtube thing... all the people I've 'converted' live states away from me, so I just made the ludicrous mental leap that your friend was long distance. lol What can i say... I'm on cold medicine and not making much sense.

Wow, just bizarre about the vg asthma link. Hmmmm I have asthma and I like the vg better. Well everyone has a different sweet spot! I am going to keep trying with him.