My impressions as a first time vape dude, and advice pls

[a wandering soul]

Thanks, I have a wierd tecnique I think, I love taking mouth draws then inhale it through my nose I just love smelling the flavours, I do mouth to lung too, I haven't learned to take lung hits yet, it feels a bit strange.

heheh.. thats called french inhaling

 

[dionysuskiss]

Lol...exhaling through your nose will have the same effect.

 

[Vaporizer66]

so is anyone here using thick vg juices? I am curious which tanks and nicotine levels you use, and how is the throath hit from a scale 1 to 10

 

[NealBJr]

Hi all! just started my vaping a few weeks back, I thought I did my research well, I watched tons of You tube videos and read the forums in here, but there is just so much new vapers need to know nobody seem to be telling about. I bought the Aspire nautilus mini as my first devise because everybody said the flavouring was great on it, and it was, I love it for the flavour, but at the same time it gave me a throath hit I allmost fell of my chair, with pain in my lungs for allmost an hour, I did not like it and I just couldn't continue vape on it, so back on cigs, next thing I bought a kanger subtank and the istick 30, I thought it would be better but the same thing there, couldn't vape it on any setting, the throat hit is unbarable for me, I recently found out that I probably only should vape max vg juices, because none, or only a slight throath hit. that seem ideal for me but I discovered that my tanks can't handle max vg very well, giving dry hits which btw is even worse than the throat hits. if I knew this from the begining I would have saved some cash instead of throwing it away on junk I can't use. I think most guys would just give up ecigs by now, but I will give it another go. I am now in the hunt for a sub tank that does not struggle with max vg juices. I do not like to build, I simply don't have time for it, would be thankful if someone could give me advise on Tanks, flavour is important and a lots of vapor, I don't like hot vapor either.

Like what others have said earlier, chances are, it's the nic content. Here's a run down on what's going on.

First PG is about as thick as water. VG is as thick as vegetable oil. Things that give throat hit are the quantity of nicotine and PG you're inhaling.

As a smoker, you're used to inhaling gas with minor particles of ash. When you switch to vaping, you'll find the vape is heavier than smoke. Remember the first time you started smoking? you probably coughed a lot, and thought it was harsh...but you continued. It's now like second nature to you now. Well, vaping is a bit denser than what you're used to, so you're going to get that coughing fit again. Especially when you go sub ohm and a high wattage device. The first advice I would say, is to reduce the wattage dramatically. Your kanger subtank came with a 1.2 ohm coil... use that. Lower the wattage down on your istick all the way... then take a vape. If you cough, the next thing you should do is "carb it"... let some air outside the drip tip inhale.... it will lower the density quite a bit.

Now, if it's burning the back of your throat... I would first try lowering the nicotine content. 24mg is extremely high, 18 is high 12 is about normal 6 is light, and anything below is very light. Usually for smokers, I recommend a higher nicotine, but if you can't handle the throat hit, go lower.

As far as switching to VG juice, the Subtank can handle it...but, at a slower pace. Since VG is much thicker than PG, it will take time for the coils to saturate. You can lower the wattage to try and not vaporize as much juice each time you take a drag. Also, lengthen the time between drags. If you want to force more into the wick, do what baditude just suggested and take a couple of "primer puffs" to re-wet the wick. You can speed up the process by covering the air intake, but be careful not to draw too much.

As I typed this, Baditude replied with a much simpler version of what I am suggesting.

Try that, and see if any of those suggestions help. It can get frustrating at first, but it is not unsolvable.

 

[Vaporizer66]

Lol...exhaling through your nose will have the same effect.

nope, the smells are definitely more intence on the inhale

 

[NealBJr]

so is anyone here using thick vg juices? I am curious which tanks and nicotine levels you use, and how is the throath hit from a scale 1 to 10

I vape %80ish VG juices exclusively. I use a subtank, squape, dripper, and Fogger V4. All have minor problems with VG with the exception of the Fogger V4.0. on a scale from 1-10, throat hit is probably a 3. (I use low nic juice as well)

 

[Vaporizer66]

Like what others have said earlier, chances are, it's the nic content. Here's a run down on what's going on.

First PG is about as thick as water. VG is as thick as vegetable oil. Things that give throat hit are the quantity of nicotine and PG you're inhaling.

As a smoker, you're used to inhaling gas with minor particles of ash. When you switch to vaping, you'll find the vape is heavier than smoke. Remember the first time you started smoking? you probably coughed a lot, and thought it was harsh...but you continued. It's now like second nature to you now. Well, vaping is a bit denser than what you're used to, so you're going to get that coughing fit again. Especially when you go sub ohm and a high wattage device. The first advice I would say, is to reduce the wattage dramatically. Your kanger subtank came with a 1.2 ohm coil... use that. Lower the wattage down on your istick all the way... then take a vape. If you cough, the next thing you should do is "carb it"... let some air outside the drip tip inhale.... it will lower the density quite a bit.

Now, if it's burning the back of your throat... I would first try lowering the nicotine content. 24mg is extremely high, 18 is high 12 is about normal 6 is light, and anything below is very light. Usually for smokers, I recommend a higher nicotine, but if you can't handle the throat hit, go lower.

As far as switching to VG juice, the Subtank can handle it...but, at a slower pace. Since VG is much thicker than PG, it will take time for the coils to saturate. You can lower the wattage to try and not vaporize as much juice each time you take a drag. Also, lengthen the time between drags. If you want to force more into the wick, do what baditude just suggested and take a couple of "primer puffs" to re-wet the wick. You can speed up the process by covering the air intake, but be careful not to draw too much.

As I typed this, Baditude replied with a much simpler version of what I am suggesting.

Try that, and see if any of those suggestions help. It can get frustrating at first, but it is not unsolvable.

Thanks for the advise, I will try it

 

[Baditude]

nope, the smells are definitely more intence on the inhale

I have found that it depends upon the flavor being vaped. Some taste better on the inhale, some better on the exhale. Some have one aroma on the inhale, and another aroma with the exhale.

 

[dionysuskiss]

so is anyone here using thick vg juices? I am curious which tanks and nicotine levels you use, and how is the throath hit from a scale 1 to 10

I do max-100% vg because of sensitivities. Not much throat hit,2 maybe. But I like it that way. I enjoy my flavors more.

 

[Vaporizer66]

I do max-100% vg because of sensitivities. Not much throat hit,2 maybe. But I like it that way. I enjoy my flavors more.

That sounds like heaven, which Tank are you using? the subtank? I would like to get that result

 

[dionysuskiss]

For tanks I use the subtank mini, .5 coils. Gonna start using the rba soon. Just wish the juice channels where a bit bigger.

 

[Vaporizer66]

For tanks I use the subtank mini, .5 coils. Gonna start using the rba soon. Just wish the juice channels where a bit bigger.

Yeah I wish that too, but I saw a new customized subtank that might interest you if you like the rebuildable part on the subtank, it's called Vaporfi Volt, it's a Subtank mini they have drilled larger juice holes in, but unfortunately for me only on the rebuildable, since I don't like to build. and it have more heat ressistence cusions I think. looks nice with neon green

 

[hashtag]

18 mg is really high for a sub ohm setup and a thick VG juice. It's like smoking a whole cig in a single puff. If you use a 6 mg liquid it will feel much cleaner on your lungs. Most of the juices designed for sub ohm vaping only come in 3-6mg nic because the larger draw gives you a lot more of the nicotine in each puff.

The subtanks do pretty good with high VG liquids for me. I usually give them about 25 watts for a .5 coil or 15-20 watts for the 1.2 coil. Play around a little and try some different mod/tank combos to help find what is comfortable for you. The stuff that gets the most hype isn't always the best for everyone, each device is usually targeted at a different subset of the vape community and you have to figure out which subset you belong in.

 

[hashtag]

Yeah I wish that too, but I saw a new customized subtank that might interest you if you like the rebuildable part on the subtank, it's called Vaporfi Volt, it's a Subtank mini they have drilled larger juice holes in, but unfortunately for me only on the rebuildable, since I don't like to build. and it have more heat ressistence cusions I think. looks nice with neon green

Yeah I drill out the juice channels to get it flowing better and still fight with the occasional dry hit on the rba with the mini. I tend to use the prebuilt coils on my subtanks. If I want the rba functionality I'll just switch to one of my drippers. The rba on a tank seems to be a better idea in theory than in practice at this point.

 

[Vaporizer66]

18 mg is really high for a sub ohm setup and a thick VG juice. It's like smoking a whole cig in a single puff. If you use a 6 mg liquid it will feel much cleaner on your lungs. Most of the juices designed for sub ohm vaping only come in 3-6mg nic because the larger draw gives you a lot more of the nicotine in each puff.

The subtanks do pretty good with high VG liquids for me. I usually give them about 25 watts for a .5 coil or 15-20 watts for the 1.2 coil. Play around a little and try some different mod/tank combos to help find what is comfortable for you. The stuff that gets the most hype isn't always the best for everyone, each device is usually targeted at a different subset of the vape community and you have to figure out which subset you belong in.

thanks, I'm learning every day, I had no idea the nicotine levels would differ on different devices, I guess the subtanks produce more vapor, and have more nicotine in it, thats logic now when I think about it. they say this isn't rocket science but it's damn close!

 

[hashtag]

thanks, I'm learning every day, I had no idea the nicotine levels would differ on different devices, I guess the subtanks produce more vapor, and have more nicotine in it, thats logic now when I think about it. they say this isn't rocket science but it's damn close!

Yeah sometimes rocket science is a bit easier than vaping

You are asking good questions and if you just keep asking and trying different things you will get there. It would be nice if there was a one size fits all solution, I think a lot of people get discouraged from vaping due to the complexities or due to bad information (not all mine is good, always get a second opinion). But if you stick it out it gets much easier, the stuff that seems like rocket science becomes basic knowledge once it clicks in your head. It's like riding a bike, once you finally get it you don't even think about it.

 

[dionysuskiss]

Yeah I wish that too, but I saw a new customized subtank that might interest you if you like the rebuildable part on the subtank, it's called Vaporfi Volt, it's a Subtank mini they have drilled larger juice holes in, but unfortunately for me only on the rebuildable, since I don't like to build. and it have more heat ressistence cusions I think. looks nice with neon green

Thanks for that. I've been looking at the Chthulu lately, though. Totally rebuildable, but massive juice channels. Down side, it drinks juice like a beast.

 

[mauricem00]

Hi all! just started my vaping a few weeks back, I thought I did my research well, I watched tons of You tube videos and read the forums in here, but there is just so much new vapers need to know nobody seem to be telling about. I bought the Aspire nautilus mini as my first devise because everybody said the flavouring was great on it, and it was, I love it for the flavour, but at the same time it gave me a throath hit I allmost fell of my chair, with pain in my lungs for allmost an hour, I did not like it and I just couldn't continue vape on it, so back on cigs, next thing I bought a kanger subtank and the istick 30, I thought it would be better but the same thing there, couldn't vape it on any setting, the throat hit is unbarable for me, I recently found out that I probably only should vape max vg juices, because none, or only a slight throath hit. that seem ideal for me but I discovered that my tanks can't handle max vg very well, giving dry hits which btw is even worse than the throat hits. if I knew this from the begining I would have saved some cash instead of throwing it away on junk I can't use. I think most guys would just give up ecigs by now, but I will give it another go. I am now in the hunt for a sub tank that does not struggle with max vg juices. I do not like to build, I simply don't have time for it, would be thankful if someone could give me advise on Tanks, flavour is important and a lots of vapor, I don't like hot vapor either.

sometimes you can get more flavor and less throat hit with lower power depending on the juice you use. I make my own juice (50/50 PG/VG) with 15% flavoring and many of my juices are more flavorful in my GS-H5 tank at 2.4 ohms then in my RTAs at 1.2 ohms. sometimes getting back to basics will solve many problems. as a new vapor you may be happier with a starter kit then moving up to your sub ohm tanks as you get use to vaping. adding a little water(5%) or alcohol to your high VG juice will also help it flow better and reduce dry hits.

 

[dionysuskiss]

thanks, I'm learning every day, I had no idea the nicotine levels would differ on different devices, I guess the subtanks produce more vapor, and have more nicotine in it, thats logic now when I think about it. they say this isn't rocket science but it's damn close!

Yeah, the way I understand it ( I could be wrong) is ...the lower the resistance, the higher the wattage/heat. The higher the heat, the more nic gets delivered.

 

[mauricem00]

For tanks I use the subtank mini, .5 coils. Gonna start using the rba soon. Just wish the juice channels where a bit bigger.

if you are looking for larger juice channels have you considered this $9.04 EK V2 RTA Rebuildable Tank Atomizer (4.0ml) - glass + stainless steel / 21mm dia. at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping I have 2 of them and a third on the way.I have tried them with high VG juices and they seem to work O.K. since most flavoring are PG base how do you avoid PG in your juice?