my kayfuns are not as fun as before

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faile

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Okay. Did find a place that sells them, and the price was in US dollars. Lots of them. $170 before shipping! Wow.

I may try a clone before going all in on the gennie.

Oops, you found it while I was typing! ;) Got attacked by a toddler mid-post... Anyway, if you're really interested in it, you might also take a look at the erlprinZ on the manufacturer's site-- it's their low-cost version of the erlkonigin.

Thank you. :) That's where I found the $170 price. REALLY? My 134 was only $140!

I'm using a lousy Blackberry with an even lousier Opera mini for all my Internet, so it doesn't load but maybe 20% of pages correctly. No flags or ways to change the language.

Again, thanks for your reply.

Oh, that sounds unpleasant... :( You're welcome! Sorry it doesn't work for you!
 
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I third (or maybe fourth, lost count haha) the lemo. Giant airflow and large build deck almost makes it like a dripper in tank form. They are only 30-40 bucks, which is cheaper than a kayfun. I just got mine a few days ago, my first rba and I love it.
Keep in mind that it is a non-threaded glass tank (the top cap screws into the top part of the inside chimney, so the glass is held in place by pressure) so if you are going to use it on the go, I would invest in some sort of hardshell case with padding inside. I've been thinking about making some sort of custom case for mine by inserting some small foam squares into a traditional e-cig case then making some holding straps with those self-adhesive velcro strips. The glass is pretty hefty, but like most glass, if you drop it on a hard surface, it'll probably break. Still debating whether or not to get a kayfun in all stainless mode for going out, the problem is a decent clone is going to cost just as much if not more than a lemo and I know the airflow isn't going to be nearly as good.
 

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To answer the OP (and be polite), the Fogger is a great RTA for not a lot of ching, and comes in a lot of colors. Stainless and gold are the coolest, IMHO. Mine is a 4.1, but the 4.0 are probably hanging around here and there still.

They are really easy to build (don't let the fact it has to be built dual coil scare you), don't leak, have great airflow, and I got my authentic for $35 from a local shop (probably can easily be had for less than $20 online). Quality machining, large capacity, and it's just cool. Decent clouds for a tank, too.

Lots of possibilities. When I feel I've hit a wall, I just try to take a new look at what I've got and see if I've really milked my gear for all its' potential before I move on. The higher up the ladder you go, the greater the possibilities.

However, I think everyone should have a Fogger in their arsenal. But that's just my opinion. :)
 

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Draw is about the same as a badly functioning Protank, if that's your thing.

A Kayfun is much better and easier to get replacement parts for as shipping from Austria is pricey.

I was persuaded by that thread to get one and will probably have to sell it on the classies for a loss.

I was bored this evening and tore this Erlkönigin down again and gave it a serious inspection.

I found a couple of places that were restricting airflow.

I opened up the two holes in the positive stem and used a dremel tool to remove some material on the shoulders of the 510/airflow control section which increased airflow quite a bit.

Without the ACF installed this is now slightly more airy than a Kayfun, but not as loose as the draw on the Lemo.

I may get a couple of the clones from Fasttech to play around with and see what else I can get out of one of these. The flavor is great, it just seems like it should be a lot looser of a draw than it is.
 
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I'm using a lousy Blackberry with an even lousier Opera mini for all my Internet, so it doesn't load but maybe 20% of pages correctly. No flags or ways to change the language.

Nobody use a regular desktop computer or a laptop for internet anymore?

Everything loads perfectly on a 'real' computer.
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I have come to the conclusion that cellphones are for calling / talking to people ... real cameras are for taking pictures ... and computers are for getting on the internet without problems.
 
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I was bored this evening and tore this Erlkönigin down again and gave it a serious inspection.

I found a couple of places that were restricting airflow.

I opened up the two holes in the positive stem and used a dremel tool to remove some material on the shoulders of the 510/airflow control section which increased airflow quite a bit.

Without the ACF installed this is now slightly more airy than a Kayfun, but not as loose as the draw on the Lemo.

I may get a couple of the clones from Fasttech to play around with and see what else I can get out of one of these. The flavor is great, it just seems like it should be a lot looser of a draw than it is.

I have the complete opposite experience although I have the erlprinz, which is the cheaper cousin of the erlkonigan. I honestly think the draw is too airy and I get too much nicotine that I switch back to the kayfun for a tighter draw frequently. My erlprinz has at the minimum 2-3 times the airflow with the airflow control completely closed. I wish I could compare it with the erlkonigan, and maybe if it is as tight as you say, that may actually be more to my liking.

Hmmm - need to find someone near me with an erlkonigan! The spending never ends!! Arghhhh!!


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Im just getting back using my Kayfun it has been sitting for 6 months maybe. I was dripping mostly then got the Fogger v4, I liked it at first but its just out of that perfect vape range at least what im looking for. I started messing with 30g twisted and got a 8 wrap @ 1.2 ohm hittin with 4.5v from a raptor and im back a Kayfun fan boy. I think I want to get a kayfun lite nano pyrex, my 3.1 is like a light sabre, shorter would be better.
 

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I've heard about this lemo how does this exel over the kayfun? They virtually look the same...

That would depend on what's important to you in a tank setup. You build them the same, but a lot of similarities end there.

If you like a really airy draw, hands down, go with Lemo. The amount of airflow I can get out of mine is almost ridiculous; I usually close it up some.

My Kayfuns have a clear plastic piece in the middle so you can see your juice level, but not all juices are good for plastic tanks (tank crackers, as they're called). Lemo has a glass tank so you can use any liquid in it and see your juice level. The alternative with the Kayfun is to put the stainless middle piece on - now you can use any juice you want but you can't see it. Your other option with the Kayfun is to buy the quartz nano kit, but now you're spending $$ on it again and it's only held on with O-rings.

Kayfuns can have leaking issues. Some people never have a problem with this, but many do. They can be quirky. Lemo's don't leak.

Lemo has a slightly larger build deck and a noticeably larger air flow hole under the coil than the Kayfun does.

The downside to the Lemo is that there is no optional stainless center tank or sleeve and the glass is on the thin side. While it's great when I'm home, I'm a little leary traveling with it. The Kayfun is a bit sturdier and heavier overall. I keep the stainless middle on the Kayfun because I know if/when I knock it over, it will likely survive. I don't have that option with the Lemo.
 

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Here is a make your own adventure.


1a Sell some equipment and buy an REO?
1b Continue buying other equipment?
2a Get REO and a new bottom feed dripping atomizer.
2b Get other equipment
3a Sell rest of equipment, buy back up REO
3b Sell REO lose little money
4a Start spending vaping budget on all things bottom feed, and buy multiple REO
4b Do infinite loop of 1b and 2b
 

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Lemo is what you are looking for. It's 23 mm so it fits a ProVari perfectly and is super airy. Stock coil it comes with is 1 ohm, and honestly, to me that is perfect for this topper.
I ordered a lemo as my kayfun was giving me problems.

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I used kayfuns with a provari for a loooong time. Its still a fantastic set up. But, like you, dripping kind of spoiled me. Also, I seem to need everything that comes out.... I have the Lemo, the Orchid, the Squape R, Fogger v4, aga T7...the list goes on. My favorite as far as flavor and vapor is the orchid. It really goes through juice though. Right behind that is the Lemo...but there's a lot I don't like about it as far as overall construction. Then the Squape R. It's the easiest way to get good flavor and decent vapor....you can have my fogger and t7... Can't stand either one.
 

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Get a REO Grand!
Mount a BF reomizer atty, running a 1ohm coil.
Fill up the bottle with 6ml juice, 18650 battery and your're good to go all day! Blowing out clouds, great flavor.
Indestructable! No leaking tanks, no breaking tanks if accidently dropped, no long flashlight, dildo tube in your pocket!
Enuf said!
 

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Here is a make your own adventure.


1a Sell some equipment and buy an REO?
1b Continue buying other equipment?
2a Get REO and a new bottom feed dripping atomizer.
2b Get other equipment
3a Sell rest of equipment, buy back up REO
3b Sell REO lose little money
4a Start spending vaping budget on all things bottom feed, and buy multiple REO
4b Do infinite loop of 1b and 2b

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I'm shocked it took 33 posts for the REOnuts to show!

You're right though...
 
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