my patience for atomizers is wearing very thin..please help me figure out whats wrong

[kiggakid]

so. I bought 4 low resistance joye atomizers a while ago and I have to say..I hate them. I started off vaping cartomizers and found them decent. then i kept buying other cartomizers until i finally found the dual coil ones that work very well. however, with atomizers it a very different story. I dont know what Im doing wrong but I know that im doing something wrong because most you drip into atomizers. So it must be that im doing something wrong. Honestly, ill drip into my atty and vape it about 10 to 15 times and it starts tasting like burnt nastiness. However, once I do taste this after a hit and refill it again, it floods! so wth. whats going on with this. atties overheat way too fast AND they flood even when it hits like burnt taste from no juice being vaporized..but then why the hell does it flood?!?!
I have some ideas that may be the reason why i hate them.
1. theyre low resistance and heat up much quicker than regular or higher resistant atomizers. however, i use a glv2 sm which is 3.7v at full battery. so why would it perform poorly?
2. i take too many consecutive hits.. however, I only take 3 to 4hits because of the fact that the atomizer gets heated up so hot that if i touched it it would burn my finger. honestly I only use my atties now when my battery is below 40% to avoid it becoming super hot. and the only reason why i keep using them is because i paid 9 fricken dollars each for them.
3. I change the flavors way too much. could this be a reason? I thought it wouldnt matter other than the flavors combining with the pre existant juice.
4. I don't use the atomizer how its supposed to be used. Then how is it supposed to be used?

Please tell me why my atty always tastes burnt after a couple of hits. Because I KNOW that there is still juice in there which is why it floods everytime I refill it after it tastes burnt. Its a brand new atty too with the primer juice blown out of it before use. Honestly, if my cartomizers werent a pain in the rear to clean after every use I would just stock up on carts. But I KNOW that you guys love dripping into atties..Is it the atty itself? I mean..its joye brand and LR. I thought joyes were a favorite amongst all vapers. Please help me figure out how to avoid the burnt and flooding problem with my atties. I already tossed my green one out after a week of burnt hell. Thanks

 

[jj2]

If you are dripping and then vaping for ten minutes, the chances you are adding too many drops at a time (you flooded it). This will make it hard to use (if it creates any vapor at all). Most of the time I could work it out but in the end would get the burnt taste. Then I'd have to blow it out. If you've done this and haven't blow it out, it means you got liquid in the cup which has been burnt and gives you the burnt taste. Trying to get rid of it by adding more might make it go away for a couple puffs but it will come back.

Blow the atty out from both ends over a paper towel. Blow hard and several times. Then when you drip, just do a drop or two at a time. Yes you will have to do it more, but that is how it works.

When you put your PV down, place it so the atty can drain. After you leave it for a bit and come back to it, it will be your best vape.
Rotating your PVs also gives you the opportunity to experience these great moments.

 

[kiggakid]

thanks. so far, Ive found only 1 very very useful situation for an atomizer. When my bottles are running really low and cant refill another carto I would just drip the rest into the atty and vape it. So I use all of the liquid lol. and thats something thats very useful that Ive noticed while using cartos and attys. however, I hate getting burnt hits, I honestly never get burnt hits on cartos and theyre so lovely after you give them a good h20 cleaning. However, the next few people who would like to shoot off some more advice, please go ahead. Im still trying to figure out why I flood my atty and get burnt hits. And I honestly am trying to understand why you guys all go through the hassle of dripping and atty heat ups. What atty would you recommend on a 3.7 mod? Like a specific atty not LR or HR ones. Something like...the cisco atomizer or the joye atomizer...maybe some others i dont really know attys like that. I know alot about cartos and theyre fricken lovely. Honestly, if the g series cartos worked as well as dual coils I would never search for another atty/carto again. (btw, the g5 cartomizers are being sold at nhaler exclusively, I havent seen them being sold anywhere else and I havent seen any reviews on them either. I hope they perform exceptionally better than the g4 cartomizers..anyone know of a review or anything?) I LOVe the idea of a carto that doesnt need the filler. Even though there are things of that nature such as the map tank, torpedo tank, VPX tanks, etc. But I want a regular sized, regular looking cartomizer that can do that. And even with those tanks, they still use a filler-like material to perform.
Theres also something else im really curious about...arent ce-2/3 cartomizers the same exact thing as map tanks? they both have the 2 wicking ropes that run inside the carto/tank. why doesnt the ce2 work as well as the tanks? Hmmm got me curious. But everyone seems to dislike ce2s for their crappy performance and enjoy the tanks for their great size and capability.

dayum....i ask way too many questions about way too many things haha. talking about ce2s, tanks, g4 and 5 cartomizers, specific attys, dual coil cartos...haha this brain spits out a question every half a second and my fingers just try to keep up with it. haha.

 

[scbelle1965]

I never figured out how to drip without getting the same experience as you so I just stick to cartomizers on my reo grand and the liquinator with a 510 cartomizer on my provari.

 

[LibertyValance]

I have never figured out why anyone would want to drip a 510 atty. Just fill a cart to the point of slushiness and you get the same flavor as a drip, with the added bonus that it will last considerably longer before requiring more drops. That has been my experience. Everyone seems to taste these things differently though.

 

[tj99959]

Patience little grasshopper, there is a learning curve to proper dripping just like anything else.
Besides half the fun is messing around trying different things.
I will tell you this however, once you figure it out, nothing else compares.

scbelle1965
Why did you get a Reo then?
Bottom feeders are a shortcut to dripping, that is why the Reo is so popular.

 

[Rar]

I'm glad you posted this because the same thing frequently happens to me. Fortunately, it doesn't happen every day. I'm almost thinking it's the attys.

 

[Stownz]

Taste buds really heal up the longer your away from cigs. At the start, you can vape just about anything and its OK. As time goes by and your sense of fast returns and magnifies, you become more sensative to differences in taste. After a year, and can dang near mix my juices by taste. I know if there is a tad too much vg, or if the tobacco extract was overdone a bit. Can also taste the difference between attys and cartos. I'm a staunch supporter of the smoktech dual coils, but I have never said they taste the same as a 306 or 510 and dripping.

Bottomfeeders were the answer to dripping for me. I vape over 6 ml a day and dripping is more a bother then a help. Bottomfeeders answer that problem. They have the same capacity as a carto in a tank, but the performance and cleanability of an Atty. I'm also able too keep an Atty super wet so that it doesn't burn. Add up a bottomfeeder plus variable voltage---- winning.

 

[Rar]

Actually, for me, this happens more frequently with my Reo Mini than dripping into my Rivas. I get the burnt taste, the atty is hot, but there's too much juice in my cup. I have to blow it out, swab out the cup and start again.

 

[Dusty_D]

Actually, for me, this happens more frequently with my Reo Mini than dripping into my Rivas. I get the burnt taste, the atty is hot, but there's too much juice in my cup. I have to blow it out, swab out the cup and start again.

The juice you are using may be too thin. With the Reo's it's always better to take a dry hit, without actually activating the button. This draws the juice back into the atty. Then activate the button and vape away.

To the OP, what atties are you using?! If you are using LR 1.5's they may be too much to handle. Switch to the 1.8's or 2.0's from either Ikenvape or Cisco and they may solve your issues for you. As for dripping, 3 drops at most at a time..

 

[tj99959]

I'm almost thinking it's the attys.

Everyone, in time, will decide what is their own favorite atty, and there are plenty to choose from.
I personally don't like an atty with a bridge, IMO the only valid reason for there to be a bridge in an atty is so that a cart will wick. So if you are not using a cart with the atty, why have a bridge in it?

To the OP, what atties are you using?! If you are using LR 1.5's they may be too much to handle. Switch to the 1.8's or 2.0's from either Ikenvape or Cisco

+1
In fact I much prefer a 1.5 ohm atty on a 3.3v eGo over a 3.7v big boy toy.

 

[Rar]

Everyone, in time, will decide what is their own favorite atty, and there are plenty to choose from.
I personally don't like an atty with a bridge, IMO the only valid reason for there to be a bridge in an atty is so that a cart will wick. So if you are not using a cart with the atty, why have a bridge in it?

Hmmm...you're right. Maybe I'll order a bridgeless to try. Good idea.

 

[dormouse]

Did you say what PG/VG juice you are using? Whatever you are using, it needs to flow faster than you vape it.

 

[uba egar320]

I would get great hits with atty's. But I grew tired of them eventually. Dripped for around a year. Went back to cartos after hearing about improvements, and never looked back lol. I can see where people don't like cartos though. It is different.

 

[chibox]

Everything said above is excellent advice. Keep at it, because its worth learning. Been vaping for ten months and 90% I drip. Make sure you blow them out and I will go to 2.0 on atty. Good Luck

 

[McG]

I prefer dripping on a 3 ohm atty at 5 volts. Can put in up to 5 drops without flooding & provides the purest taste I have found.

 

[GIMike]

I love the boge cartos. For me, the cost can't be beat. Just pull off my drip tip, top off, replace drip tip, keep vaping. Nothing to it. Sure, my ego-t is smoother with a better taste. But neither are so much different from the carto that I would want to pay the cost difference. I got the T-kit free in a contest, and will vape the attys off-on until they die, then stay with my boges. But for the cost, and not having to worry about having to clean attys after dripping, changing flavors, etc, they're worth it to me

 

[McG]

This is old but still a good guide to dripping. http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/new-members-forum/66349-noob-guide-direct-dripping.html

 

[Dusty_D]

In fact I much prefer a 1.5 ohm atty on a 3.3v eGo over a 3.7v big boy toy.

I use a Joye 1.5LR on my eGo's too. The big mods get 1.8's (901 and 306's). 1.5 LR's were too hot and burned the juice on the big mods.

 

[tj99959]

Hmmm...you're right. Maybe I'll order a bridgeless to try. Good idea.

I have gotten use to the funny smerks, and people laughing when I tell them that my favorite atty to drip is a LR 510-T with the wick plate removed.

I just tell them "maybe you should look at what is in there". That is the cleanest ceramic cup design for dripping that I have found.