Nagging Spouse Rant

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RagTyme

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Thanks guys. The comments have been helpful. I appreciate the support. I think I may take the advice to tell him to stick it up his ..... since my standard "At least I'm not smoking" is not getting through to him. Maybe the take or leave it might make its way in too.

I know to some it may seem like a harsh approach. However, once you realize that your happiness and health are the most important thing for you then it becomes easier to let others know that if they can't be supportive and happy to be with you as you are then they are free to leave.
 

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I'm single, have been for six years now. I was married for ten. Every time my husband and I argued his standing line was, "There's the door!" One day I finally used it. Six years later he still begs me to come back! I't's a sad truth, they have no idea how good they have it until it's to late. Oh and BTW, my Goldfish (Miranda) let's me vape ALL I want :D
 

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I don't think you need to offer him the door. I have been married for 15 years, we both smoked when we met, and married. About 5 years ago my wife quit smoking. She nagged me to quit all the time. I tried several times, not just because of her but because I knew smoking was stupid. I became a closet smoker and only smoked at work, but could not get below about 10 smokes aday. Well about 4 months ago I got bells palsey, thought I had a stroke, quit smoking that day. I picked up a ego twist and a protank then threw my pack of smokes out the window on the way home.

Now my wife started nagging me about my vaping, I do it in front of her and in the house, never would have done that with smokes. Well I let her know this is my choice and when, or if I'm ever ready to quit vaping I will but until then. I know her opinion and will not try to satisfy it because she hounds me about it, in fact her constant nagging only creates a problem for her because I will ignore it, until I want to stop. End of conversation. No offer for her to leave she knows she can do that without my permission, and now she knows where I stand on my vaping.
 
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I'm really lucky that my family and friends recognize vaping as being pretty much the same as other NRT.

When I first started vaping I saw it as kind of 'cheating' because I wasn't changing anything; it's understandable to me that someone else would see it that way. However, IMO the biggest case for vaping is in the fact that you still get some of the withdrawals and the healing; that's when I realized that I'm really not smoking anymore.

One of the great things about vaping is that you can channel some of the cravings, and such, into the fun of vaping. The bad thing about that is that another person only sees an increased enthusiasm for the same behavior -- especially if the other person never smoked and doesn't know how hard it is to quit. There's no real substitute for that experience, but maybe it would be worth rounding up some videos (including videos about what to expect when quitting and such) and try to communicate what you're really going through (both the bad and the good).
 

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My husband (30.5 yrs married, 34 yrs together total) was first in line to give me a hard time about vaping. Not smoking, because he did, too. I started vaping when his mother was dying of cancer though, so it wasn't a huge battle. I said to him and anyone else who has confronted me that vaping has to be less dangerous. It just has to be.

I don't know every single thing that is in this juice, or how it will affect me long term - it hasn't been around long enough for anyone to really know. But if it's harmful for me, even if I get sick with some weird disease and die (I mean I doubt it, but still) at least I stopped paying big tobacco to kill me.

Hubby used to also complain about me buying vape stuff, not so much the amount, but that I buy online, so it's on a credit card and he hates that.

On the other hand, I nagged about him working so much overtime, and leaving his dirty clothes laying around, and never watching anything on TV but First 48 and Cops.

Last week, he was diagnosed with stage 4 lung cancer. The other day, he thanked me for quitting smoking, and for trying to get him vaping as well.

We only wish we had had the option to vape 20 years ago or so. I hope we have 20 or so more years to ..... at each other.


I sincerely hope that you have that time together also!
Good luck. As one who has "been there, done that" with a sick spouse, I hope that you will consider a support group.
 

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Why don't you just DEMAND that the nagging stop. Tell him if/when you wanted to hear anything about vaping, you will be the one to bring the subject up, until then, shut up about it, period. I am sure you'll get the shut up or what question and the answer to that is simply - you don't want to find out.

I doubt you have ever just laid anything out to him in that manner, he counts on you not being that demanding, he will use whatever to manipulate you into an answer, and that my dear is submission to a higher authority, don't give that part of you any longer.

His behavior is entirely about control, let him know with no butts about it that he is not in charge of this, you are, and you have no intent to give him that control or listen to him rag on and on at you any longer.

If he continues, you then need to assume that he's in a relationship with you to dominate you, nag you, and no matter what you do to change this or that, there will always be another something on his list to work on at you. It's obvious that you give him a lot of space and respect, but that is a two way street, he needs to make some changes in his mindset and you need to be the one to put your foot down and say no more.

Speaking straight up, straight forward is honorable, nagging is not. Since nagging is actually usually associated to women, make sure you also remark to him that he just might be a girlie man since he reverts to girlie tactics.

I would never put up with nagging or control tactics like nagging. In fact, nag me and I will be twice to three time more obstinate about my position. I also will not give in to the game of explaining myself when it comes to my choices that are about myself. You actually made a good choice, a healthier choice for you and him since secondhand smoke is considered more harmful than first hand smoke. As for money and cost, that does not compare or fails to compute when levied against the overall health issues. You would have spent X on cigarettes if you had kept smoking, you are now spending X, it's a savings in the overall once you get a little gear and setup the way you like. Maybe you should look at your old expenses and just take that amount as a monthly budget for your vape supplies, if you spend less, cookie jar it and use it as you please for you. I am making my own vape, it is so cheap to make it's unbelievable, if I did the cookie jar stuff I'd be going on one hell of a vacation every year.

When I decided to quit smoking, I bought a decent starter kit, and when it arrived I was done with smoking. I've cut my intake of nicotine down half of what it was, going down another half now, and when it hits ZERO guess what, I'm still going to vape because I am enjoying it, simple pleasure that is mine to do. My other half was so surprised, no words . . and the only words I have heard have been complimentary and encouraging. I have never heard one word about costs, none, nada, nothing, just encouragement. Even if I decided to do something risky I would be given the space without any opposition. I return the same to my other half, we have a partnership, we see life as an experience to be shared, we watch each other grow and flourish by being supportive.



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So for the last 13 years of marriage and about 5 years of dating, I have had to endure the constant complaints about my smoking habit. The smell, the cost, the ashtrays, the ashes, the smell, oh yea said that. Anyway, now that I am 100% vaping, shouldn't my husband be done moaning?! Some people can't/won't be happy no matter what. When are you going to quit those things now, are you saving any money, you chain vape so aren't you getting more nicotine than before, and on and on. Does anyone else deal with this? I love my new hobby. I have converted friends and we swap juices and accessories. It's like a little group we have formed. Now our only conversations aren't just about our children and I am enjoying it quite frankly. I smoked for about 20 years and have only been vaping for 3 months, so I am not 100% off smokes and if he keeps pushing me. I am going to buy a pack of cigarettes just to spite him! No I'm not, but I feel like it sometimes. It is soo annoying. He still has his rub and drinks beer like its water, but I don't bi*** constantly about those things.

OK, I'm done ranting and I feel better. More or less, I just want to see if anyone else deals with this.

When I first started vaping, and especially after I had entirely switched from smoking to vaping, I pretty much chain-vaped, and he started giving me the "you sure do that a lot, like all the time!" So I gave him just a WEE bit of what my quitting smoking WITHOUT vaping would be like:

"YOU WANT ME TO GO BACK TO SMOKING??????" (at approx 100 db)

He never raised another objection.

Of course, mine didn't really hassle me much about smoking, only if I was choking him out in the truck. Some people just like to whine and complain, regardless of what you do or don't do. So the problem isn't really what you do or don't do... it's them.

Andria

PS: I just realized that my comment about those who just like to whine and complain and CONTROL OTHERS was actually about my EX. And that's WHY he's my ex.
 
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Malkinmania71,
You are very unlucky to be nagged at for your vaping, especially since the one doing the nagging is an ex-smoker.
My own experience with my wife is the opposite. She is very supportive and she has no problem with me vaping anywhere in the house or vaping in the car. She likes the smell too, even though she says it is faint
 
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Malkinmania71,
You are very unlucky to be nagged at for your vaping, especially since the one doing the nagging is an ex-smoker.
My own experience with my wife is the opposite. She is very supportive and she has no problem with me vaping anywhere in the house or vaping in the car. She likes the smell too, even though she says it is faint

Same here, my husband was amazed and delighted when I laid down the smokes and picked up a whole bunch of different PVs... :D He's a little disappointed that I went back to smoking temporarily after my illness, but so am I, but these things happen, you can't really predict them. The main thing is now I can, carefully, vape again, and the cigarettes that I don't smoke are beginning to outnumber the ones that I still do, so at least it's heading in the right direction! :thumb: But when I had smoked a pack, I just flat out told him, I can't vape right now because of this ungodly dehydration, but I have to do SOMETHING, and right now, for a short time, it's smoking, so I DON'T WANT TO HEAR ANYTHING ABOUT IT! He asked me if I meant to go back to vaping eventually, and I said YES DEFINITELY, just as soon as I figure out how to do that without sending my electrolytes into complete mayhem. I'm getting more and more of a handle on that, so, so far so good.

Andria
 
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My wife started to give me crap.

I looked at her with a very cold look in my eyes and said dispassionately.

"Do you want me to die" she say huh and I said "Do you want me to die" I switched from smoking to vaping for my family,
because Cigarettes will definitely kill me. So if you want me to die, just tell me.

She has never said another word in complaint about vaping.
Good thing she doesn't know about my life insurance policy. Hee Hee.
 

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It sounds like he might be harboring some incorrect knowledge about the dangers of nicotine.

If so, maybe he might benefit from learning that nicotine improves memory, attention, and concentration.
And it also is being looked at for potential to possibly help avoid Parkinsons and Alzheimers.

That's not a bad tradeoff for something that isn't really any more harmful than caffeine.
 

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It sounds like he might be harboring some incorrect knowledge about the dangers of nicotine.

If so, maybe he might benefit from learning that nicotine improves memory, attention, and concentration.
And it also is being looked at for potential to possibly help avoid Parkinsons and Alzheimers.

That's not a bad tradeoff for something that isn't really any more harmful than caffeine.


Absolutely !!! Years ago they thought cigarettes were causing those diseases, now they know it was all the chemicals and heavy metals that accompanied the tobacco used by the farmers in the growing process. I suppose today we could add all the stuff from chemtrails to the mix, eh?


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