Nasty Taste in MadVapes RoughStack

[Slickgonzalez]

Hi all, brand new here and I would have posted this in the madvapes forum, but since I'm a newbie I have to post it in here... Hopefully someone here can help me.

I started vaping about 3 months ago. I've been using a brand called E Cigarettes, Electronic Cigarette, E Cig, by Smokesation. They sell pre-filled, disposable cartomizers that I guess aren't very typical? Everyone I've come across who vapes always has bottles of liquid and have to refill constantly. At first I saw that as a pain, but then I also felt it was kind of cool to be able to refill whenever you wanted.

Anyway, curiosity got the best of me and I ordered a RoughStack kit and my wife got an e-Go kit from Madvapes.com

I've done TONS of research and the RoughStack has great reviews. We also ordered well-reviewed e-liquids (a few different tobaccos, a coffee, a cappuccinno, and some berry stuff). However, after following all of the directions I can find online on how to set this thing up and fill it, the first few hours with the RoughStack were terrible in terms of taste. I mean, disgustingly terrible. Like a burned metallic plastic/chemical nastiness. I've read that the atomizers need to be "broken in" before they taste good because of the 'primer'? I've also read that you can clean the primer off prior to use, but haven't found any guides.

So is this nasty taste normal? If so, does that mean I'll have to deal with this on a regular basis? I've also read that e-liquids need to 'steep' to get the full effect of their flavors. Since I've had them less than a day, I'm assuming I need to wait longer for the flavor to really kick in?

The burned taste is kind of gone now, but I wouldn't describe the flavor that I'm now getting as 'good.' I'm also not getting very heavy vapor, although all the reviews claim I should be. I've been keeping the cartridge super wet, so it's not from lack of moisture. I'm really unimpressed at this point and want to know if there's a trick that I need to know to make this RoughStack work well and taste well. If not, I may just have to check on the return policy of this thing and go back to my pre-filled cartomizers from smokesation. I never had an issue with the taste of Smokesations stuff, it was always delicious and it's what got me hooked on vaping in the first place!

 

[dormouse]

Perhaps you did not clean the primer off of the atomizer? Primer tastes awful.

Blow out the atomizer into a tissue. Prime (drip 3-4 drops of eliquid on the bridge and let that soak in). Use an empty cart or drip tip and vape that mostly off without inhalng. Blow out the atty again into a tissue. Reprime w/ juice. Vape that mostly off without inhaling. Check the taste w/ one inhale. Repeat ad infinitum until it tastes OK.

 

[permafrying]

diffinetaly sounds like primer.. blow out the atty and put like 5 drops of juice on it take a few puffs without inhaling and drop a couple drops on and see how it tastes... it might help. if not, maybe soak it in vodka or everclear if your state sells it

 

[locke2121]

Look in tips and trick for conditioning atty...I just did this and it worked beautifully! Others get great results with pure alcohol, ultrasonic baths...there are alot of different ways to clean out an atty.

 

[MickeyRat]

Your problem isn't with the roughstack, it's with what you have screwed into the top of it and you really haven't said what that is. Are you using an atomizer and a cartridge? Are you using an atomizer and dripping? Are you using some kind of cartomizer?

 

[Cage024]

Just looked at the site for the roughstack. Appears to come with atomizers and cartridges. Have you tried dropping a few drops directly into the atomizer? With cartridges you have to top off alot to keep the atomizer wet.

 

[BiffRocko]

Soaking new atomizers in isopropyl alcohol overnight will remove the primer taste. Just be sure to get the coil very wet (drip several drops in) after you take it out of the alcohol bath.

 

[Slickgonzalez]

Thanks guys, I will give those suggestions a try tonight and report back!

 

[permafrying]

make sure to get all the isopropyl off before you vape if you go that route. deffinetaly not something you want to inhale

 

[lariders]

What is steeping? Do you just let the juice site in the bottle for a week or two? I should be getting my 901 atty soon, I hope it is not to bad.

 

[Twinturbo4486]

I just got my ego in yesterday and I can tell you the EXACT same thing happened to me. For the whole night, I had this nasty chemical aftertaste and I thought it was the Menthol Liquid I bought from Liberty Flights and I was kind of ...... because I bought a 30ML.

When I woke up the next morning and started vaping, that aftertaste went away and it tastes 10x better. I can say that was my issue, and that it is normal (if that's the same thing happening to you, but i'm not sure).

 

[WomanOfHeart]

What is steeping? Do you just let the juice site in the bottle for a week or two? I should be getting my 901 atty soon, I hope it is not to bad.

Yup. That's pretty much it right there. Steeping allows the flavors to develop.

 

[lariders]

Is steeping just letting is site for a week or two or do you have to do something to it?

 

[violetvoo]

Is steeping just letting is site for a week or two or do you have to do something to it?

You let it sit in a cool dark place away from heat and sunlight..depending on the juice it may take a month or more.
I check mine about once a week if I've never used that particular brand/flavor before. Some juices are good from the
beginning and no need to steep them at all.

 

[BiffRocko]

make sure to get all the isopropyl off before you vape if you go that route. deffinetaly not something you want to inhale

Thanks. Forgot to mention to let it dry out first.

 

[CBB]

It is hard to let juices steep when you are new and it is all that you have. As a general rule fresh made complex flavors usually need to steep for at least a week, usually anything with any kind of fancy name is a mixed juice. But stuff with simpler names, like apple or strawberry, or coffee, don't need to steep as long because there is only one flavor and it only has to mix with the vapor producing medium. Also a 100% PG juice can feel bad, harsh and irritating, some people associate the feeling with taste but it is different.

Knowing what juices you got from which vendor may help us to be able to tell you which need to steep and which will taste better faster.

Also switching from cartos to atomizers can be a bit tricky, yes they do need to be kept wet, but they are also easy to flood, when you flood an atomizer they don't make much vapor. You can test to see if they are flooded by drawing on them without pushing the button, if it gurgles the atty is flooded and needs to be blown out.

 

[4mehealth]

One recommendation (and it may or may not apply). Check the batteries. That has a great affect on "cloud production". When I got my RS, I think I let the batteries only partially charge. It was ok, but wasn't great. Replaced it with a fully charged batt and it made a world of difference.

 

[DonG]

It would help for you to let us know what type of atty/carto you are using with your RS. Also if not the attomizers included with the kit, do you know what ohm rating the carto/atty is?

 

[Luther]

Like Mickeyrat said, the problem is not the roughstack. I would suggest trying these cartomizers:
510 Black Dual Coil Mega Cartomizer, 5 Pack
They work wonderfully on the roughstack.