"Near Zero" "Nicotine Not Added Intentionally" (50/50)?
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Clark labels his 0 nic as Near Zero because he feels that it is irresponsible to label it as 'Zero' because it is processed in the same facility as the liquids that do have nicotine in them. A teensy tiny minute amount could possibly somehow make it into the bottle (VERY unlikely but he is just letting us know that there is always a risk because it is processed in the same facility) That is why he chose to label it 'Near Zero' instead of 'zero nic'. The 50/50 just refers to the VG/PG ratio.
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From what I understand they take every precaution to prevent Nicotine contamination but it is still labeled Near Zero just in case there is a chance that a very tiny almost non-existent amount shows up in a e-juice.Its a measure to make sure everyone knows what might be in e-liquid.Another way Kent thinks of his customers first and makes sure everyone knows it might be a very small possibility it might happen.
Absolutely.... but even with the strictest precautions there is no way to be ABSOLUTELY sure that there is not any cross-contamination at all. Just like when you go to McDonalds- they have a sign up saying that their food is processed in a place that also processes peanuts. So if you have peanut allergies you have to assume there has been some kind of contamination. It's a liability thing. We know there's no peanuts in the hamburgers. However there is no way to make sure that some teensy tinsy minute amount didn't fly through the air and land in the 'no nic' mix.
It's just being a responsible vendor.
So many vendors say- 'no not in MY liquid- we're perfect!!' But in all actuality there is no way to be absolutely sure. Unless maybe it is mixed in a control room in the CDC............. but even then........... ??
I have little doubt that most companies would say take our process and just call it zero - but - in my opinion, if there is nicotine "on the table" or "at the same station" where liquid is being mixed - you shouldn't call it "zero." We don't have the space to construct a totally different mixing station specifically for 0, so we call it "Near Zero." Essentially it means "we didn't intentionally put nicotine in the liquid, but there was nicotine "on the table" when it was mixed. Functionally zero, but not *guaranteed* to have absolutely zero nicotine.
The reality is - MOST of the liquid currently labeled zero contains trace amounts of nicotine. I'm not comfortable saying my eLiquid contains absolutely zero of anything - it's a function of liability. Zero should be absolutely zero, all the time... we make a reasonable effort, but we're not testing every near zero batch for nicotine... so... we don't guarantee it. We understand that might be a deal breaker for some people who want liquid that contains "absolutely zero nicotine" - in those cases - we let that business go to another vendor whom is willing to accept the liability associated with declaring their liquid to be totally nicotine free (despite the fact that we likely use the same, or a very similar, process - in terms of ensuring that no nicotine lands in the bottle).
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We prefer to flush with PG as opposed to DW, but yea, same fundamental premise - still don't mean there isn't residual nicotine though. I bet if you take 100 samples of "0mg" from 100 different vendors, more than half of them contain nicotine. Matter of fact, I would bet a significant sum of money on it, because I'd win.
We prefer to flush with PG as opposed to DW, but yea, same fundamental premise - still don't mean there isn't residual nicotine though. I bet if you take 100 samples of "0mg" from 100 different vendors, more than half of them contain nicotine. Matter of fact, I would bet a significant sum of money on it, because I'd win.
Not sure why but I just pictured you marching around where ever you are saying "i win, I win, I win." That's what I would do if I were you.
We prefer to flush with PG as opposed to DW, but yea, same fundamental premise - still don't mean there isn't residual nicotine though. I bet if you take 100 samples of "0mg" from 100 different vendors, more than half of them contain nicotine. Matter of fact, I would bet a significant sum of money on it, because I'd win.
It's this simple decision which will end you better off if the FDA has it's way. When all the "near zero" liquids of NT go through their testing and a few may show .009mg of nicotine, you will be fine. For vendors who say ZERO nic and during testing it shows as some having .009mg of nic the testers will say that does not pass.
That simple decision will cover your near zero liquids in the future. As well as continuing to give us confidence in your integrity.
It's this simple decision which will end you better off if the FDA has it's way. When all the "near zero" liquids of NT go through their testing and a few may show .009mg of nicotine, you will be fine. For vendors who say ZERO nic and during testing it shows as some having .009mg of nic the testers will say that does not pass.
That simple decision will cover your near zero liquids in the future. As well as continuing to give us confidence in your integrity.
+1 on this!
Integrity is everything to me. I won't give my hard earned money to a slimy, money grubbing business owner who has no integrity. If I spend my money somewhere twice it is because I approve of their business practices.
I really do *not* want to be responsible for anyone picking up a nicotine addition. Addiction is addiction. Given a choice, I think most of us would vape true zero, or not vape at all... I am sure there are some exceptions, but I don't want to be the guy responsible for a bottle that says it has absolutely zero nic, has a trace amount of nicotine (even if it is infinitesimal), and then gets someone hooked on the most addictive substance on the planet. So, yea, it's all about integrity. I really doubt that 90% of the small businesses that offer zero are really in a position to offer it (totally separate mixing stations, two entirely different sets of base/flavoring/mixing utensils, etc)... that's what we would insist on if we did a "true zero" - we would insist on absolutely zero chance of nicotine getting in those bottles, ever. .000000001mg is too much - still not zero.
And you would also have to depend on the integrity of the suppliers/makers of your ingredients to take the same precautions.
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