There's been all sorts of testing. Long term, not so much as the phenomenon is too recent for data collection. But the honest testing done to date is showing there's very little harm in vaping. Sure, there are half baked, biased studies out there and if you really look at the bottom line, you'll find they really didn't find much wrong either. They just chose to portray it in the worst possible light to give ammunition to the prohibitionists who wish to ban anything and everything that looks like smoking.
Need Advice, Girlfriend and my vaping!!
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There's been all sorts of testing. Long term, not so much as the phenomenon is too recent for data collection. But the honest testing done to date is showing there's very little harm in vaping. Sure, there are half baked, biased studies out there and if you really look at the bottom line, you'll find they really didn't find much wrong either. They just chose to portray it in the worst possible light to give ammunition to the prohibitionists who wish to ban anything and everything that looks like smoking.
A few points that may help calm her worries are:
PG is used in many products ranging from food to air fresheners to asthma inhalers.
VG is common, everyday glycerin, also in food, air fresheners and other products.
Nicotine is found in some of the healthiest for you vegetables like Eggplant, cabbage, spinach, tomatoes and, peppers.
There is no tar or, any other byproduct of burning vegetation in vaping and, those are the things that cause cancer, black lungs and, the like.
Of course there are no long term studies like there are for smoking - vaping has not been around for that long YET but, everything we do know is enough to assure us that is at least much less detrimental to our health than smoking and, may not be any more harmful than drinking coffee every day.
PG is used in many products ranging from food to air fresheners to asthma inhalers.
VG is common, everyday glycerin, also in food, air fresheners and other products.
Nicotine is found in some of the healthiest for you vegetables like Eggplant, cabbage, spinach, tomatoes and, peppers.
There is no tar or, any other byproduct of burning vegetation in vaping and, those are the things that cause cancer, black lungs and, the like.
Of course there are no long term studies like there are for smoking - vaping has not been around for that long YET but, everything we do know is enough to assure us that is at least much less detrimental to our health than smoking and, may not be any more harmful than drinking coffee every day.
Dump your gf and vape on
I was tempted to say that, but it's not fair. She's concerned for his health is is being intelligent about it. Fact is, we DON'T know the long term effects.
Other fact...you have to live your own life and she can be supportive of your decision or not. Give her information because she's approaching it analytically. In the end, it's YOUR decision. Tell her so and let her know that you hope she'll be supportive and let you go through "the process" whether it takes days or decades.
Ah yes relationships!!!!! Hi everyone, my name is Signal30. You may remember from past marriages like, "The first biggest mistake I ever made" followed by the sequel 'Marriage, bankruptcy, Child Support, OH MY!"
Communication is one of the most important aspects to maintaining a relationship. You should be able to tell your better half anything, as long as you use verbal judo to do it. If you want to vape, then you need to tell her the reason why (plenty of good reasons), you will be doing it for awhile. She may not be thrilled, but guess what? She probably does things that annoy you too.
Whatever path you choose make damn sure you iron out all potential issues before you put that ring on her finger.
Communication is one of the most important aspects to maintaining a relationship. You should be able to tell your better half anything, as long as you use verbal judo to do it. If you want to vape, then you need to tell her the reason why (plenty of good reasons), you will be doing it for awhile. She may not be thrilled, but guess what? She probably does things that annoy you too.
Whatever path you choose make damn sure you iron out all potential issues before you put that ring on her finger.
Botton line is, no one, not even your girlfriend can tell you what to do when it comes to your health. Not even your Dr can tell you what to do without YOUR permission. It is your body, it is your health, you own it not your girlfriend.
My hubby harped on me for years to quit smoking, I knew he was right, I did quit and started vaping. He then said it was a crutch and why don't I just just stop all of it. I had to tell him vaping made quiting smoking easier for me and I like vaping and I am doing it for as long as it takes. I may quit vaping when I no longer want to do it, but right now I want to. I vape at 6 nic and zero now so it is not like a heavy addiction to nic, I hardly get any anymore but I like vaping. Anyway my point is, don't let others run your life, you make your decisions and they will respect your more, not less. She may have your best interest at heart, but I am sure she does something harmful to herself as well & you have no control over it. JMO bnrk
My hubby harped on me for years to quit smoking, I knew he was right, I did quit and started vaping. He then said it was a crutch and why don't I just just stop all of it. I had to tell him vaping made quiting smoking easier for me and I like vaping and I am doing it for as long as it takes. I may quit vaping when I no longer want to do it, but right now I want to. I vape at 6 nic and zero now so it is not like a heavy addiction to nic, I hardly get any anymore but I like vaping. Anyway my point is, don't let others run your life, you make your decisions and they will respect your more, not less. She may have your best interest at heart, but I am sure she does something harmful to herself as well & you have no control over it. JMO bnrk
I think he means that, unless she has some real value as a trophy girlfriend (who is possibly great in the sack, although my experience has found the opposite to generally be true ...but let's face it, many guys think that 'any' is typically better than 'none'), it is possible that he is allowing her to control more of his life/relationship than she deserves/has any right to. In other words, Peterforpats is inferring that the OP may be 'whipped'.
Deciphering crypic posts is just one of the many community services I provide.
Before you chat up your GF, you should make sure you know what vaping means to you.
It has helped you quit smoking, which she and yourself are happy about. What are your thoughts on going forward? If you plan to reduce your nic, tell her your plan. If not, be honest.
Vaping has become a hobby you enjoy (according to one of your posts), so you need to explain that side of it to her as well. You enjoy building the various parts, etc. Tell her your plan to not kill the bank account.
Obviously you need to talk to her, just make sure you know what you really want out of vaping before you do. That way you can give her the info she needs.
It has helped you quit smoking, which she and yourself are happy about. What are your thoughts on going forward? If you plan to reduce your nic, tell her your plan. If not, be honest.
Vaping has become a hobby you enjoy (according to one of your posts), so you need to explain that side of it to her as well. You enjoy building the various parts, etc. Tell her your plan to not kill the bank account.
Obviously you need to talk to her, just make sure you know what you really want out of vaping before you do. That way you can give her the info she needs.
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Oye vey, imagine if you marry her.
Unless you're spending her money, it's you're deal. I'm guessing you don't have kids with her, even if you did and you're not taking money away from the kids clothing and food etc rock on.
Unless you're spending her money, it's you're deal. I'm guessing you don't have kids with her, even if you did and you're not taking money away from the kids clothing and food etc rock on.
Start mixing your own juices, THAT will really save you some money (after an initial investment lol)
I think he means that, unless she has some real value as a trophy girlfriend (who is possibly great in the sack, although my experience has found the opposite to generally be true ...but let's face it, many guys think that 'any' is typically better than 'none'), it is possible that he is allowing her to control more of his life/relationship than she deserves/has any right to. In other words, Peterforpats is inferring that the OP may be 'whipped'.
Deciphering crypic posts is just one of the many community services I provide.
And the others are??
well, at 3.30 am it made sense to me. what I was trying to say- she had better be supermodel beautiful to allow her to pressure him about a behavior that is better than the smoking he was doing when they met. otherwise, discuss it with her nicely and explain how vaping is better than smoking and if she doesn't get it , move on and spend your money on other things, like a provari(at least it will make everyone on this board happy).
Well, there's a big part of me agreeing with hazarada. I think if she dealt with you as a smoker, she should accept vaping as a part of the healthier you. We may not know the true long term effects, but check out Zee Cigs chest x-ray. Better yet, show her Zee Cigs chest x-ray and see if her opinion doesn't shift slightly.
Chest X-Ray Electronic Cigarettes Before and After Smoking Health harmful - YouTube
Chest X-Ray Electronic Cigarettes Before and After Smoking Health harmful - YouTube
is it costing you more then it did you smoking? if you say yes then i would say your buying way to many devices and way to many juices, i mean find a few juices you lie stick with those and only have one main unit and a backup. I'm not a nicotine vapor but so far I have spent less then $100 and this should last me 3 months at least what i have.
tell her well you could still be smoking and everyone knows that leads to cancer and its bad and smelly, now you smell good, your breath not stinky cloths not stinky how long you been together, maybe shes just looking for reasons to fight with you
tell her well you could still be smoking and everyone knows that leads to cancer and its bad and smelly, now you smell good, your breath not stinky cloths not stinky how long you been together, maybe shes just looking for reasons to fight with you
I think he means that, unless she has some real value as a trophy girlfriend (who is possibly great in the sack, although my experience has found the opposite to generally be true ...but let's face it, many guys think that 'any' is typically better than 'none'), it is possible that he is allowing her to control more of his life/relationship than she deserves/has any right to. In other words, Peterforpats is inferring that the OP may be 'whipped'.
Deciphering crypic posts is just one of the many community services I provide.
This makes sense.. guy code needs translation sometimes lol
I have tried to quit smoking a million times
My wife and I started with cigalikes as a means to quite
She is almost off them
I after getting a bad case of vapors tongue not knowing what it was tried a bunch of different things which led me to liquids and clero's
And woa what a difference but that put me on a new journey,
Now I am no longer vaping just to quit but because I am enjoying the ride for a wile, I do plan on giving it up in time
But that may not be for a year or 2 and I am good with that
My wife on the other hand for a while has been a little crazy about it, She doesn't get why tanks or difrent Flav's
he does not want too enjoy it, However she still thinks of ciggs and I don't
I have tried to explain and she has agreed at least to let me be with it,
I will say this though It is a much healthier way then smoking
Also I definitely was addicted to way more the nicotine because It was not that easy of a switch
there were def some withdrawals
So the way I look at it is one step closer to being nic free
further more when I am ready I can adjust nic leval to go down by step 12mg 9mg 6mg 3mg then free
You know what No mater what my wife said Its the best choice for me someone unable to stop smoking no matter what method
My wife and I started with cigalikes as a means to quite
She is almost off them
I after getting a bad case of vapors tongue not knowing what it was tried a bunch of different things which led me to liquids and clero's
And woa what a difference but that put me on a new journey,
Now I am no longer vaping just to quit but because I am enjoying the ride for a wile, I do plan on giving it up in time
But that may not be for a year or 2 and I am good with that
My wife on the other hand for a while has been a little crazy about it, She doesn't get why tanks or difrent Flav's
he does not want too enjoy it, However she still thinks of ciggs and I don't
I have tried to explain and she has agreed at least to let me be with it,
I will say this though It is a much healthier way then smoking
Also I definitely was addicted to way more the nicotine because It was not that easy of a switch
there were def some withdrawals
So the way I look at it is one step closer to being nic free
further more when I am ready I can adjust nic leval to go down by step 12mg 9mg 6mg 3mg then free
You know what No mater what my wife said Its the best choice for me someone unable to stop smoking no matter what method
Switching from analogs to vaping is a process; so is nagging. One is productive...the other is not. 'Self control' comes in many colors.
As for the expense, I suggest to keep a record of what you would have spent on analogs vs what you have spent on vaping. In the beginning, the start up expense of vaping will be higher, but that will change.
Get yourself a ticker to go in your signature, and keep your expenses posted below it. It's surprising how much really IS saved by vaping, all while continuing to indulge in whatever devices I want.
I track my own expenses in my signature below, and in less than two years, I've saved more than enough to satisfy my vape needs AND take a great vacation with my partner...or buy a new 55" TV...or whatever. (My listed vape expenses also include PV gifts to my friends.)
It just gets better and better.
GF needs to stifle the nagging and celebrate 'the switch'.
Good Luck!
As for the expense, I suggest to keep a record of what you would have spent on analogs vs what you have spent on vaping. In the beginning, the start up expense of vaping will be higher, but that will change.
Get yourself a ticker to go in your signature, and keep your expenses posted below it. It's surprising how much really IS saved by vaping, all while continuing to indulge in whatever devices I want.
I track my own expenses in my signature below, and in less than two years, I've saved more than enough to satisfy my vape needs AND take a great vacation with my partner...or buy a new 55" TV...or whatever. (My listed vape expenses also include PV gifts to my friends.)
It just gets better and better.
GF needs to stifle the nagging and celebrate 'the switch'.
Good Luck!
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