Need advise for upgrading setup

[Fernando Mercerat]

Hello ! This is my first post after my presentation here.
Need a little help choosing another setup.
Started vaping a month ago with a Vaporfi Variable Pro 1000, a Vaporfi Pro L II tank with the 1.5 ohm atomizer that came with it, and have 1.8 ohm replacements. Using 1.2% nic juice.
I was smoking about 25 cigs a day, and now with no effort I am about 8-12.
My idea is quitting gradually without torture myself.
The thing is that to accomplish that, I believe I will need more power and more hit, and there is where I need help, to choose the right setup for that.
After reading a lot of posts I think I've got the way of vaping that best works for me (4-6 secs aspiring to mouth, then to lungs, then exhale through nose).
I like how this setup works, but to definitely quit smoking I need something else.
Here is what I think I need:
-More hit
-More vapor
-More battery life
I don't care about big clouds, nor breaking any record. Just something that swits my way of vaping (described earlier) and give me more vapor and hit, and good taste, without raising the temperature of vapor too much. By now I don't want to rebuild nothing, want replaceable coils.
I've been reading a lot here and it seems like the Istick 30 or something similar will be good for me, and then saw mods with temp control, don't know if that is usefull. Don't know if it's better a fixed battery or a replaceable one.
But with the tanks I am more confused, many people recommends the nautilus or nautilus mini, but I don't know if I will be fine with that or will need to go with subohm.
I live in Argentina and don't know anybody who has a subohm, so I can't try it.
And because I live in Argentina I think I will be buying on Fasttech (free shipping worldwide).
Well, thanks for reading this long post, and thanks in advance for helping.

 

[Clydde26]

Any i stick is a great entry level device as well as the Nautilus. The reason The nautilus is so highly recommended as an entry level tank is because it allows you to get your feet wet into the tank world. It has adjustable airflow and a more powerful coil that would definitely be night and day compared to what you are using at the moment. I sticks have excellent battery life and can take a beating. And they wont break your pocket.

Personally what allowed me to kick the habit completely was the kanger sub box mini kit. It is a sub ohm vaping kit. The tank is very versatile and the mod itself is very user friendly. I used the tank on a wide open air setting for a deep lung inhale like you would a hookah and that gave me the most satisfying vape....but you can close the air down a little for a tighter draw and get your mouth to lung inhales like you were talking about as well.

There is no wrong answer to whichever route you take as long as it helps you kick your smoking habit for good.

 

[K_Tech]

Hi Fernando, and welcome!
(I have relatives in Argentina around Mendoza, and I spent a little time around the Mar del Plata area several years ago!)
I agree with Clyde26's thoughts on the Kanger kit, they're a good setup at a pretty reasonable price, and they're available on Fasttech as well.
As to replaceable battery or not, I would go with a unit that has replaceable batteries (like the Kanger kit).

 

[glointhedark]

Don't forget that if you get something like the Subox Mini, you will need to get batteries and a separate charger for the batteries. If you decide to subohm, you will probably want to cut down on the nicotine level in your eliquids. I got my daughter's boyfriend the Subox Mini kit for Christmas from a company here in the States, and he is loving it. It is fairly user friendly, and you can subohm or use the 1.5 ohm coils that are made for it.

My daughter just treated herself to the Nautilus Mini, and she is loving it. She finds that she is getting a lot less flooding and gunky coils with the Nautilus Mini, and the coils seem to be lasting a bit longer for her.

With all the choices available right now, you should be able to find something you will enjoy at a price you can afford. Good luck in your search, and congratulations on your success so far.

 

[FringeChief68]

This is just my Opinion
I can only tell you about what I got and you can find on FastTech.

I do have a couple Kanger Subox Mini Kits,
First thing is when I do a FastTech search they say Authentic Kanger TOPBOX Mini Starter Kit
Not sure what that about, but it looks the same as the Subox mini kit.
This is a nice little device, but you would have to buy 1 or 2 18650 batteries and maybe a battery charger if you didn't want to use the mod itself to charge them.
Not that it's cheaply made or anything, I just feel if I drop it on a hard surface, it's going to break
This is a great 2nd mod or a back up Mod, but I would Not suggest this one for your main mod.

I have a few 20w iSticks, a few 30w and one 50 watt.
The only thing I can think of that's nice about these are the price
A good back up mod.

I do really like Innokin products.
I have around 20 different Innokin mods.
I will mention the 3 I like of mine the best.

First the CoolFire IV 40watt, Small but feels really nice in the hand.
But only a 2000mAh battery, so depending on how much you vape might not last all day.
They do make a 70 watt version with a 3300mAh battery, I don't have one of these but it is a little bigger in size.


2nd is the MVP 3.0 Pro 60 watt with a 4500mAh battery
It is the taller than most box mods and some people think it's to big.
But the battery life is why people buy this one, plus you can charge other stuff via the USB cable, like a Smartphone with this thing.


My Favorite Innokin product right now is the Disrupter
This is a pretty unique device. The battery is unlike any other.
And they now make a 3300mAh battery for the Disrupter



Here are mine
Disrupter with the 2000mAh and one with the 3300mAh battery.

The MVP 3.0 Pro and the CoolFire IV

 

[FringeChief68]

Oh Yea a Tank.
I got the Aspire's Atlantis, Aspire's Atlantis 2, Aspire Triton, Herakles by Sense, Kanger Subtank, SubTank Mini, Subtank Nano, Arctic Tank by Horizon Tech, Innokin iSub G and the Innokin APEX.

I like all of these but My Favorite out of all of them is the Innokin APEX with Clapton coils and my least favorite is the Atlantis 2, I don't even use mine.
The Atlantis isn't a bad tank, the vapor is just to hot for me, so it's a personal preference thing.

The Kanger SubTank Mini would probably be my 2nd pick. The normal Subtank is just to big and mine leaks.
The Subtank Nano is pretty cool but doesn't hold enough juice.
I do like my Aspire Triton though It's just as good as the Subtank Mini but it's a top fill and I kinda lean towards top fill tanks.

But right now I got three mods going and all 3 have an Innokin APEX tank on them.

 

[Sir2fyablyNutz]

An iStick 30 watt (or better/similar) mod and the Aspire Nautilus Mini would be a large step up from where you're at. The Kanger Subtank Mini (or tobox mini) would be a nice choice as well because it allows you to learn to build and use your own coils (easy and cheap). Good luck.

 

[suprtrkr]

Fastest and easiest and cheapest, an iStick 30 plus a Nautilus or GS Air tank. More miney, but better quality and more flexible, a Kanger Topbox kit.

 

[Fernando Mercerat]

Thank you very very much for helping.
Seems like it's narrowing down to istick + nautilus or kanger topbox, subox (or may be the Cool Fire IV + Apex)
I'm liking more the idea of replaceable batteries, so I don't have to dispose the entire mod when the battery dies, plus I can carry a back up one fully charged when going out.
Two more questions:
How much time before the battery on the Istick 30 or other fixed battery will become unusable ? (aprox)
If a go for the subohm mod, and I throttle it down and put a 1.5 ohm coil, will it have a performance similar to a nautilus or so, or will it still be using more battery and juice ?
As you can see I'm a little afraid of subohming , but if my second question is right I will definitely go that way.
Thank you guys.

 

[Ebartky]

Great info in this thread. I will add that when I was transitioning off the cigs, the juice had a far bigger impact on my success than the vape setup. At first I used high nicotine tobacco flavors then once I got down to 12mg nic I started with more of the dessert/fruit flavors

 

[suprtrkr]

Thank you very very much for helping.
Seems like it's narrowing down to istick + nautilus or kanger topbox, subox (or may be the Cool Fire IV + Apex)
I'm liking more the idea of replaceable batteries, so I don't have to dispose the entire mod when the battery dies, plus I can carry a back up one fully charged when going out.
Two more questions:
How much time before the battery on the Istick 30 or other fixed battery will become unusable ? (aprox)
If a go for the subohm mod, and I throttle it down and put a 1.5 ohm coil, will it have a performance similar to a nautilus or so, or will it still be using more battery and juice ?
As you can see I'm a little afraid of subohming , but if my second question is right I will definitely go that way.
Thank you guys.

There's no real way to guess on the first one. The people who use those batteries to make mods don't make batteries. At a guess, 1 year, minimum, to 2 or 3, depending. But you can get a bad one, too. Some of them will go out in a couple months. And yes, if you throttle something like the Topbox down with a 1.5Ω coil and close the air down, it will only drink juice like a nautilus.

Another nice thing about that is you can always pop in a subohm coil and try it. If you don't like it, no problem, you don't have to use it. If you do, why, you've already got gear that will do it

 

[FringeChief68]

Thank you very very much for helping.
Seems like it's narrowing down to istick + nautilus or kanger topbox, subox (or may be the Cool Fire IV + Apex)
I'm liking more the idea of replaceable batteries, so I don't have to dispose the entire mod when the battery dies, plus I can carry a back up one fully charged when going out.
Two more questions:
How much time before the battery on the Istick 30 or other fixed battery will become unusable ? (aprox)
If a go for the subohm mod, and I throttle it down and put a 1.5 ohm coil, will it have a performance similar to a nautilus or so, or will it still be using more battery and juice ?
As you can see I'm a little afraid of subohming , but if my second question is right I will definitely go that way.
Thank you guys.

From what I read the iStick 30, 2200mAh battery, will last somewhere between 200 and 300 life cycles.

A life cycle is when a battery is charged from 0% to 100% this equals 1 full life cycle.
So if a Li-ion battery (lithium-ion battery) Battery is at 75% and you charge it to a 100% you only use 25% of one life cycle. and you still have 75% of that one life cycle left.
A Li-ion battery should never reach 0% or it could damage the cell. So even though a device like the iStick shows the battery is empty, it really isn't.
It protects the battery from draining completely, so even though it says 0% there is still a little charge left in the battery.
So just because you charged the battery it doesn't mean you took away a whole life cycle, but just a percentage of one.

Another thing is if a 2200mAh battery advertises you will get 300 life cycles,this doesn't mean on the 300th life cycle it is going to stop working,
The charge hold times will get shorter and shorter.
Example,
Lets just say a iStick 30 last a person 24 hours before they had to charge it.
When it starts to get closer to the end of it's life cycles, that time between charges may drop to say, 18 hours then to 10 hours then to 5 hours and keep dropping till it won't hold a charge at all.
I just pulled them numbers out of the air just for an example.

 

[Fernando Mercerat]

Thanks to all who answered.
I'll be opening a new post to get help to decide between the two different setup I've choosen.
And I keep lowering the number of analogs day after day with my vv 1000 and pro tank, happy about that.

 

[dleister1981]

My advice to you is over do it on the mod, get something that does all the TC modes as if later you want them you alrdy spent that money, and if you find out you like lung hits you lardy spent that money, and if maybe you become a dripper fan and low ohm builds are something you get into you alrdy spent that money. the Wismec RX200 the joytech Cuboid or a DNA 200 device are all examples of this. future proofing yourself now can save money down the road

 

[rice721]

I'm going to have to agree with what dleister said. Get a mod that's a bit more powerful so in case you want to go down the sub ohm route you already have the gear to do it.

The wismec sx200 is fairly priced. Has tc control and utilizes 3 18650 batteries so hypothetically it can last you at least a day or 2 under moderate to heavy vaping.

I personally don't see a need to pay extra for the dna200 at the moment. Maybe consider it further down the road when you need more customization