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Andrew1919

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Baditude, yes I probably should have said the continuous amp limit, and i know this whole issue is kind of controversial. But I have been fine with 0.1 ohms on a sony vtc5. the sony vtc5 has 30 amps continuous, and supposedly has a 60 amp pulse limit. 0.1 exceeds 30 amps, but I have never had an issue. I realize that exceeding the continuous amp limit is definitely pushing the envelope, but if you are a well seasoned cloud chaser 0.1 on a vtc 5 is usually considered reasonably safe.
 

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Baditude, yes I probably should have said the continuous amp limit, and i know this whole issue is kind of controversial. But I have been fine with 0.1 ohms on a sony vtc5. the sony vtc5 has 30 amps continuous, and supposedly has a 60 amp pulse limit. 0.1 exceeds 30 amps, but I have never had an issue. I realize that exceeding the continuous amp limit is definitely pushing the envelope, but if you are a well seasoned cloud chaser 0.1 on a vtc 5 is usually considered reasonably safe.

I hope your DMM is accurate.

Personally I wouldn't advise a 0.1ohm coil on any battery. It might be me being overly cautious, but I simply don't trust my DMM to measure down to that accuracy where .05 of an ohm could mean the difference between a safe vape and a battery event.
 

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Baditude, yes I probably should have said the continuous amp limit, and i know this whole issue is kind of controversial. But I have been fine with 0.1 ohms on a sony vtc5. the sony vtc5 has 30 amps continuous, and supposedly has a 60 amp pulse limit. 0.1 exceeds 30 amps, but I have never had an issue. I realize that exceeding the continuous amp limit is definitely pushing the envelope, but if you are a well seasoned cloud chaser 0.1 on a vtc 5 is usually considered reasonably safe.
The problem for me with the whole "cloud chasing" discussion, is that most "new members", most ECF vapers, and especially the OP are not "seasoned cloud chasers". Giving any advise regarding "pushing the envelope" should not be done in the "New Members Forum" or even be given unless you are sure the member who is requesting the information knows what they are doing. And even if they know what they are doing, I would prefer these discussions happen either in the "Battery & Charger Forum" or the "Rebuildable Atomizer Forum".

Too many of us spend a lot of time trying to educate new vapers on how to safely use their hardware. Baditude has spent a lot of time composing all of his blog posts, but we (and he) still have to cut and paste, upload pictures, search the database, etc. just to try and get this information out to people asking questions. It makes it very difficult if we also have to spend time pushing back on these low-sub ohm builds that "push the envelope" on safety.:2c:
 
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The problem for me with the whole "cloud chasing" discussion, is that most "new members", most ECF vapers, and especially the OP are not "seasoned cloud chasers". Giving any advise regarding "pushing the envelope" should not be done in the "New Members Forum" or even be given unless you are sure the member who is requesting the information knows what they are doing. And even if they know what they are doing, I would prefer these discussions happen either in the "Battery & Charger Forum" or the "Rebuildable Atomizer Forum".

Too many of us spend a lot of time trying to educate new vapers on how to safely use their hardware. Baditude has spent a lot of time composing all of his blog posts, but we (and he) still have to cut and paste, upload pictures, search the database, etc. just to try and get this information out to people asking questions. It makes it very difficult if we also have to spend time pushing back on these low-sub ohm builds that "push the envelope" on safety.:2c:

Thank You!!

 

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Continuous Discharge Ratings vs Pulse (Burst) Discharge Ratings

The "continuous discharge rating" in amps is the standard specification for amp limits within the battery industry. It is a determination made by the manufacturer and represents the amp limit a battery can be safely used before it will fail.

The "pulse or burst" discharge rating is not a specification standard within the battery industry. Every manufacturer or vendor seems to have their own definition of what the pulse rating is.

A pulse discharge rating is any use above the continuous discharge rating. It is never safe and not within the intended operating parameters of the battery. You should not operate your device above the continuous rating if you can help it. The pulse rating is a condition in which the battery is on basically a buildup to failure. It is exceeding the sustainable and intended discharge rate of the battery. It is inappropriate for a consumer device to operate in the pulse range of its battery.

Which would be why we shouldn't rely on any pulse rating. Any failure, mechanical or electronic, that fires the mod will operate in the 'continuous' mode. If your setup relies on a pulse rating, it's instantly over spec.

If your amp draw is safely in the continuous discharge range, your coil could act almost like a fuse and burn out before the battery is stressed. If you are already running the battery at the edge of it's limits (pulse), there is no margin of safety.
 
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