Need help choosing a new 18650 battery for vamo v5

[famousnate187]

I need help choosing a battery for the vamo v5 I'm not sure what the best choices I've seen the Panasonics but I've also heard bad things about them in there a little expensive I'm looking for a 18650 battery also I don't want any rattle with any of the batteries I also heard aw are good how about efest? I'm looking to go at least 2000mah any other you have felt with you like or don't like? Also a charger the efest charger are they ok ? Any others?
Thx

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[Jc61990]

You wont benefit from a better battery in a vamo to be honest. The vamo has a Amp limitation of 5A max. Getting a Sony 30A battery will do you no good since the vamo will only pull 5A. Actually it could drain the battery faster since you are not using it to its full potential. Get any standard IMR battery that has a high mAh rating. AW IMR are very good batteries. Efest IMR batteries are also very good. Efest makes two versions (v1,v2) there is no difference in performance, the ONLY difference is one is flat top (v1) the other is a button top (v2). Don't go crazy on a battery unless you plan on using it in a mechanical mod or a DNA mod that has something like a 10A limit.

If you want high mAh, i recommend any of these

Efest: Amazon.com: (2 Pieces) IMR 18650 2000mah 3.7v High Drain Li-mn Rechargeable Battery with Button Top: Cell Phones & Accessories

AW: Amazon.com: AW IMR 18650 3.7v 2000mAh Li-MN High Drain Button Top Rechargeable Battery 2pc: Electronics

Orbtronic: i have the high amp version of these which work well, these are the high mAh. A lot larger than the aw or efest, but they are on the expensive side. http://www.orbtronic.com/batteries-...li-ion-battery-button-top-panasonic-orbtronic


ive used a trustfire charger, and i now use a Nitecore i4, if the efest charger you are talking about is the one with the LCD, ive heard good things about it.

 

[Baditude]

You want a high drain, safe chemistry battery. Regulated variable voltage mods like your Vamo will perform at their optimum performance when using high drain batteries for their buck boost/pulse width modulation circuitry.

IMHO, you can't go wrong when choosing an AW IMR battery.

The Panasonic NCR18650PF are a high drain hybrid battery which has 2900 mAh for longer battery time.

Stay away from the Orbtronic or Panasonic NCR18650A or B models (3100 & 3400 mAh) suggested above, as they are not high drain batteries and targeted for flashlights and other low drain applications. Also avoid any battery with "fire" in the name.

Battery Basics for Mods: IMR or Protected ICR?

I generally recommend Pila, Xtar, and Nitecore Intellicharger chargers.

RTD Vapor is a great vendor to purchase mod batteries and chargers from. Take your chances with Amazon and Ebay and you may be sorry you did.

 

[NealBJr]

Omg, this is the first time I'm going against Baditude's opinion! I have a Vamo V5, and some IMR and ICR, and hybrid batteries. I've found that the cheaper Trustfire 18650 ICR batteries work the longest out of the three. The Trustfires are rated at 3000MaH by the manufacturer, but the reality is around 2500MaH. They outperform my 2100MaH Hyrbrids and Efest 2000MaH. The fit is tighter. Button tops tend to fit better, so these work perfectly. They get only slightly warm when they get around 3.7 volts, and I raise the wattage up to max, but not near hot enough to be concerned. If you want no heat increase, the hybrids work well.

I still use the Trustfires in my Vamos, and have been doing that for almost a year with zero problems. They're the best bank for your buck for the Vamo IMO.

 

[famousnate187]

I just ordered x2 Panasonic 3400 mah 18650 and i4 charge that good for the vamo?

 

[3mg Meniere]

I have one of these on its way. eFest IMR 18650mAh LiMN Rechargeable Batteries - AltSmoke They are very similar in appearance to my pair of 18350's.

My initial pair of 18650's are these: Amazon.com: Panasonic NCR18650B Super Max 3.7V 3400mAh Rechargeable Li-ion Battery-Green (2 quantity): Electronics They are not high-drain, but I note that there is another vaper in the reviews who is satisfied.

 

[famousnate187]

do I need high drain?

 

[3mg Meniere]

I guess not. However, the price is the same, so why not? I never go above 7W, though, and even that is high for me.

 

[Vermonster13]

It's silly to invest in a mod but not the batteries. Get the best batteries you can afford. IMR are the safest and higher amp limits makes them less limited on what you can use them in. AW, Sony, LG, etc all have excellent batteries.

 

[jcco]

I am generally confused about batteries. I stick with what Baditude suggests. To be as safe & efficient as possible.

One thing I have read many, many times is to never buy anything with "fire" in the brand name. Such as Trustfire for example.
I have no idea why or what the problems are with batteries & chargers that contain the word "fire".

To me it suggests that a real burning fire might well be the problem. You don't want fire.
So I just stay away from anything "fire".
Thought you might want to know this. Maybe we'll get lucky & Baditude just might chime in here & help explain.

When I hear stuff like this, I just go with my gut & avoid or purchase what's recommended.

Hope this may help in your decision making.

Be careful & the best of luck.

JC

 

[djsvapour]

IF i was buying today, I'd buy the best IMRs.

As it was, I did in fact buy Panasonic 3,400s and have used them without issue in 3 x VV/VW mods for over a year.

Did I do bad? Who knows, I don't tend to regret things which have served me well.

I wouldn't exactly recommend them...

 

[famousnate187]

Yea I'll try out the Panasonics at least I know the nitecore i4 charger is a good buy

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[GPC2012]

http://ivape.net/index.php/18650-IMR-2000mAh-Nipple-Top-High-drain-Li-ion-3.7V-2-pack.html

I have 4 of these, they are priced reasonable for a two pack and work well.

 

[Baditude]

do I need high drain?

Yes. Regulated VV/VW mods use special pulse circuitry to raise the voltage output higher than the 3.7 volts of lithium batteries. To do this effectively they require a high drain battery (IMR or hybrid), not a low drain protected ICR battery. This is the same reason that a Kick in a mechanical mod requires a high drain battery.

Why High Drain Batteries?

Question for the tech engineers at Provape

High-drain batteries are also safe-chemistry batteries. These are less likely to fail in dramatic fashion like an ICR low drain battery can.


The NCR18650A & B 3100/3400 mAh batteries sold by Panasonic and Orbtronic are not high drain batteries. These were designed for low drain applications such as flashlights, not for mods. They may well "work" in a mod, but due to their amp limitations and high internal resistance they will not allow a regulated mod to perform as optimally as the manufacturer designed it to. When you consider these factors, why not spend your hard-earned money on the best batteries to allow your mod to perform at its optimal performance?

There's more to choosing a battery than just choosing the one with the highest mAh rating.

95% of all batteries are made in Japan or China. The best ones are made by Panasonic, Sony, Sanyo, and Samsung in Japan. Not all batteries are created equal when they are manufactured. AW (Andrew Wan) is a battery distributor in Hong Kong who buys batteries in bulk from Japan, bench tests them individually and chooses the best to be distributed by his company. This is why you pay a little more for AW batteries, for the peace of mind that you're buying a high quality battery that will be consistant battery to battery. Other Chinese battery distributors either buy/re-wrap the rejects or make their own in China. Some even pull old batteries harvested from used laptop computers, re-wrap them, and sell them as new batteries.

Trustfire, Surefire, and Ultra fire batteries distribute the lesser quality batteries under their own brand name. Other distributors attempt to duplicate the appearance of batteries to look like AW or other desired batteries and sell them to unknowing customers as counterfeits. Therefore, its wise to buy authentic batteries from authorized vendors like RTD Vapor, Provape, or Orbtronics and not from Amazon or EBay.

The battery trade in Southeast Asia is extremely competitive and some vendors are willing to sacrifice integrity and customer safety for a quick buck. It's not worth it in my opinion to purchase cheap batteries and put yourself and others at risk.

 

[dice57]

I'd go with the Efest Purple 35 amp 2500 mah battery, Sony VTC4 or 5, or the new LG, 30 amp 2500 mah bat. Reason being, if you end up maxing out the vamo, a high amp battery will sustain the mod longer. A 10 amp battery won't be able to power it once battery drops down below 3.9 volts, a 30 amp bat will fire the vamo at max watts till it's charge is down to 3.5 volts. More useable power. Least this what I have found to be true, other's experiences may differ from mine.

Vape long and Prosper.!!!

P.S.: The cat bites!

 

[Maurice Pudlo]

I pretty much like to think of it this way, if it costs less than a carton of smokes I'm not going to complain about the price.

Then if the item I'm buying is going to last longer than a carton of smokes, I really don't worry about it at all.

Let's assume a battery only lasts you 250 charge cycles (a really conservative figure there), that might equate to 6 months or 182 days or 18 cartons of smokes at 1 pack a day or $540 at $30 a carton.

Buy the best batteries you can afford, they are still less expensive than smokes, hell buy the best of everything and you'll still come out doing really well if you don't mess around and buy a bunch of junk liquid you don't like.

Maurice

 

[Baditude]

Omg, this is the first time I'm going against Baditude's opinion! I have a Vamo V5, and some IMR and ICR, and hybrid batteries. I've found that the cheaper Trustfire 18650 ICR batteries work the longest out of the three. The Trustfires are rated at 3000MaH by the manufacturer, but the reality is around 2500MaH. They outperform my 2100MaH Hyrbrids and Efest 2000MaH. The fit is tighter. Button tops tend to fit better, so these work perfectly. They get only slightly warm when they get around 3.7 volts, and I raise the wattage up to max, but not near hot enough to be concerned. If you want no heat increase, the hybrids work well.

My . No battery should get warm (and certainly not get hot) to touch. These are red flags that the battery is working too hard and getting stressed.

When you say the ICR's outperform the IMR & hybrids, you are talking about battery capacity (work the longest). I can guarantee that the IMR & hybrid batteries are giving your regulated mod the amps it needs for the length of time they are being used better than the ICR's, which is different kind of "performance" - vape quality. If you can't tell the difference in vape quality, then its your choice to use the ICR's. I just believe you are stressing those ICR's in a regulated mod. They are a low drain battery being used in a high drain application.