Need help please

[Jonnybarr91]

I’ve been making my own juice a month or so now, the juices taste great but for some reason when ever I vape them, it causes a lot of dry hits and it seems to not soak very well,

I use a 70vg30pg for all mixes
All have no nicotine and flavour value usually around 10-16%

Tried all different flavours and steeping but I don’t know what to do
I was using a espire expo tank and now just bought my first RTA vandyvape and it’s the same with both tanks

Thanks in advance for any help

 

[glasseye]

If you are priming your wicks and not super chain vaping, that ratio doesn't sound like it should do that. You could try adding 5%-10% distilled water to make it thinner and/or take a few hits without firing to load the wicks.

 

[Jonnybarr91]

Yeah I prime my wicks properly been vaping for a good 3 yeas now lol I do tend to chain vape but it can literally be 2 hits and it’s dry

 

[Letitia]

Try adding a few drops of DW to the tank. I use 4% DW in my mixes, more than that I get an annoying crackle. The only pg in my mixes comes from flavors.

 

[JCinFLA]

I was using a espire expo tank and now just bought my first RTA vandyvape and it’s the same with both tanks

Exactly which Vandy Vape RTA? Also, are you using cotton, or rayon for wicking?

 

[IDJoel]

If it is truly dry hits; it is a matter of physics, and not a DIY issue per se. Unless you have drastically changed your PG/VG ratio (after DIY vs. before DIY); I would be looking at wicking technique and/or juice-flow control. In the early days of vape gear, 30P/70V might have been problematic, but I have yet to hear of any issues with current equipment.

 

[AzPlumber]

I agree, it's not a DIY mixing issue it's an equipment issue.

 

[Jonnybarr91]

Exactly which Vandy Vape RTA? Also, are you using cotton, or rayon for wicking?

I use vandy vape PYRO RTA
And I use cotton bacon by wick n vape

The coil was made and wicked by the guy in shop I have re wicked and cleaned coil etc but it’s fine with a juice that I have shop bought but my diy juice not so much.

 

[Jonnybarr91]

Would It be better if I do a 60vg 40pg mix?

It’s the same with my pre built aspire coils for my exo tank

 

[stols001]

Are your DIY juices darker or sweeter than what you have? I guess you could change your VG/PG ratio to see if it helps. I was going to suggest a wicking issue or an equipment issue, but I'm kind of stumped. I would try to add a bit of distilled water as well, to see if that helps as well... Is your DIY juice the same VG/PG ratio than the storebought you use? If it's different you could try changing and remember your flavors are in PG (most likely) so that will factor into the equation as well. It can't hurt anything to change the ratios. The only thing I might identify as an issue would be making certain your DIY math was correct, in case you are inadvertently vaping some other ratio, although it would have to be a large error to cause such a difference.

Really, I am kind of stumped. More information might help, as far as your storebought vs. your DIY mixes but it's odd. My coil life improved with DIY and that is what is supposed to happen.

Anna

 

[Jonnybarr91]

Are your DIY juices darker or sweeter than what you have? I guess you could change your VG/PG ratio to see if it helps. I was going to suggest a wicking issue or an equipment issue, but I'm kind of stumped. I would try to add a bit of distilled water as well, to see if that helps as well... Is your DIY juice the same VG/PG ratio than the storebought you use? If it's different you could try changing and remember your flavors are in PG (most likely) so that will factor into the equation as well. It can't hurt anything to change the ratios. The only thing I might identify as an issue would be making certain your DIY math was correct, in case you are inadvertently vaping some other ratio, although it would have to be a large error to cause such a difference.

Really, I am kind of stumped. More information might help, as far as your storebought vs. your DIY mixes but it's odd. My coil life improved with DIY and that is what is supposed to happen.

Anna

Yeah my shop bought juices are 70vg 30pg

And when I make my own I use a calculator online
And do same ratio it’s very stange ! Maybe dodgy VG
Liquid ?

 

[stols001]

I guess it's possible, you could ask for feedback about your vendor on some of the EU forums, they might be able to help you more. You want to get the highest rated "grade" for where you are buying from, in the USA is pharma grade, USP, although I'm not sure what it's called over there. How dark was your nicotine when it arrived? Flavors age? They could also be contributing to your problem, but it's hard to say without seeing it/knowing it. I suppose some suppliers could be skimping corners in some areas, but I just don't know enough about it. Good luck,

Anna

 

[Jonnybarr91]

I guess it's possible, you could ask for feedback about your vendor on some of the EU forums, they might be able to help you more. You want to get the highest rated "grade" for where you are buying from, in the USA is pharma grade, USP, although I'm not sure what it's called over there. How dark was your nicotine when it arrived? Flavors age? They could also be contributing to your problem, but it's hard to say without seeing it/knowing it. I suppose some suppliers could be skimping corners in some areas, but I just don't know enough about it. Good luck,

Anna

I don’t use nicotine at the moment, and the website I use seem to have good ratings and reviews so I’m Un sure, I have been doing the flavours by drops according to calculation, but is every drop the same ? Maybe use the syringe instead and measure in ML I not sure, all
Flavours are in date when the arrive also

 

[stols001]

Drops can be picky little things, but I have to admit, I haven't noticed a huge difference like the one you are describing, calculating via drops. It works fairly well for smaller mixes, if I am getting into larger quantities, like over 100 ml, I do at that point (sometimes) need a syringe, but most often, I will use a dropper (I keep it consistent) with flavorings that don't have a dropper attached, and I have placed line marks at various numbers of drops... Say 10, 20, 50 etc., and that seems to keep things fairly consistent for me.

I just don't know. I might try a few wicking "experiments" where you turn the equation around, and start trying to build and wick for YOUR juice (whatever the difference is) and given you are getting dry hits, I would start by using less wick and possibly thinning the tails considerably. That should speed up your wicking (I know, it seems counterintuitive but too thick tails can sometimes reduce wicking capacity, in the sense that a "thick" tail takes more juice to get saturated, while a thinner one will actually wick more efficiently). Could also try different wicking materials, like rayon if you haven't. It shrinks when wet, so you do need to wick it a bit tighter, but I find it a more forgiving wick, and that my juices wick more efficiently, still with no leaking at all. Unless you want to start all over with your mixes, I would probably try some different builds and wicks. Sometimes the smallest thing can make a HUGE difference. But, that's about all I got. Sorry.

Anna

 

[Jonnybarr91]

Yeah I think maybe I will wick it slightly different and try that I guess ! Will let you know if I sort it, thanks for the info and help as always everyone very helpfull

 

[zoiDman]

I’ve been making my own juice a month or so now, the juices taste great but for some reason when ever I vape them, it causes a lot of dry hits and it seems to not soak very well,

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Fundamental Rule: A Thin e-Liquid will Wick Better than a Thick e-Liquid.

Since you are doing DIY, seems like a Simple step to just make your e-Liquids Thinner by adding a little Distilled Water to the VG Component.

I'd take about 15ml's of your Finished DIY e-Liquid and add 5 or 6 Drops of Water to it and give it a Test Vape. If it is Better but you are still getting Dry Hits, then add a couple more Drops.

Just write down what you did. So you can Incorporate it into your DIY Recipes.

 

[Letitia]

Yeah I think maybe I will wick it slightly different and try that I guess ! Will let you know if I sort it, thanks for the info and help as always everyone very helpfull

With an rdta you will have to tip tank to keep your wicks wet. With my rdta I thin cotton tails and cut wick so it sits a mm or two inside of tank.

 

[dc99]

You say store bought 70/30 wicks fine. Can you hold them up and tell a difference in thickness? Its possible most of the store bought are thinned with DW. Are you using the drop method with your PG and VG or just the flavors? Its possible your 70/30 isnt really 70/30. Flavorings VG based? Were all just guessing here.

 

[BrotherBob]

Yeah I think maybe I will wick it slightly different and try that I guess ! Will let you know if I sort it, thanks for the info and help as always everyone very helpfull

I vape zero nic at max VG and mix pretty much the same %'s you do +/-5%. I vape only RDA's and get tremendous flavor. RDA's are about the least expensive atty out there and the easiest to build on not to mention rated first in taste production. Could use the RDA to establish coil type and ga. power on a single coil setup for taste (it should eliminate the wicking problem). I'm very happy with rayon.
Might like to read:
Drip Vaping: Your Guide to Dripping e-Juice | Vape-Resource.com
http://spinfuel.com/art-drip-guide-vaping/
https://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/blog-entry/7-information-resources-for-your-first-rba.4454/
https://quitsmokingcommunity.org/electronic-cigarettes/what-is-an-atomizer-definition/
Rebuildable Tanks Explained: RBAs vs RDAs vs RTAs vs RDTAs
https://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/threads/wrapping-building-coils-101-for-beginners.745045/
http://www.geekayvapes.com/squonking-101/
https://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/threads/i-love-my-rda.805461/#post-19616327
Rayon Wick - Better Flow, Flavor, Longevity, and Nic Hit!! - Pt.2
https://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/f...er-flow-flavor-saturation-and-nic-hit.561226/

 

[IDJoel]

I have been doing the flavours by drops according to calculation, but is every drop the same ? Maybe use the syringe instead and measure in ML

If you can get syringes without a hassle; I would strongly encourage you to do so. I find drops can vary greatly. The default "average" is often considered 20 drops per milliliter. But my own experience, when I have tried calibrating drops (by counting them into a 1mL syringe), is it more frequently runs anywhere from 30-45 drops/mL.

There are just too many variables that can affect droplet size. Viscosity, Dropper size and shape, even liquid temperature, all can have an influence on drops/mL. Use syringes for better precision and repeatability.