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Thankyou yeah i think im looking for at least 3ml and also heard good things about kangertech but are they more expensive than Aspire ? dont want to overload myself again with decisions lol , but definately going for the 50w eleaf as more battery life is what i need , still deciding on the correct tank now ! with correct coil ohm , see im learning already !

The Kanger Subtank Mini (4.5 ml) will be around 10 dollars more. I prefer the Nautilus as a more trusted don't leak tank. My Subtank Mini's guzzle the juice compared to the Nautilus. Coil prices will be a bit more for the Subtanks. I mouth to lung vape, so the first thing I did was buy a cheap more restrictive drip tip to make mouth to lung easier with the Subtank.

I really don't think you can go wrong with either, but for someone just starting to get off the cigs the Nautilus is the best for you. You might have to refill once a day with the Nautilus, and probably once a day with the Subtank (guzzler). So thats 5 ml (Nautilus) versus 9ml (subtank). Thats also not to say you'll vape 2 full tanks, just have to refill once with either.

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Another thing. Cigs are really expensive, and are a part of everyones budget. You can figure that once you start vape your cig budget will be cut in half if all you need is juice and coils (unless you go the premium route with juice). A month from now you should be easily to afford growing into Subtanks, but many people find their balance with the Nautilus. I had mine for about 4 months before I decided to try the Subtanks. Walk before you run, get off the cigs.

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Thankyou yeah i think im looking for at least 3ml and also heard good things about kangertech but are they more expensive than Aspire ? dont want to overload myself again with decisions lol , but definately going for the 50w eleaf as more battery life is what i need , still deciding on the correct tank now ! with correct coil ohm , see im learning already !


I would probably go with the aspire first, then save up for a subtank. this is what us vapers call "shinyitis".... it's not uncommon for most of us to have something pending in the mail which is called "vape mail"

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How long does 2ml last you ? ok depending on how many puffs you take ? just curious is 2ml would last me a whole day !!
I'm not working right now so I've never tested it through out a regular work day. At home, I fill it in the morning and by late afternoon, early evening I'm refilling it for the rest of the night. I vape about 3ml of 18mg a day. I guess it depends on how much opportunity to vape you have during your work day.
 

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being a user of subtanks, I will say the airflow on them is open. The adjustment is medium to high. I cannot do an effective mouth to lung inhale using a subtank on it's lowest air intake setting. Since the settings have a slight detente in them, setting them to block half a hole is next to impossible to keep. I will note, though, that I still get a slight bit of airflow with it in the fully closed position, but I've gotten accustomed to a direct lung inhale before getting to the subtanks, so I don't use that setting. It might be different from tank to tank as well.

The subtanks hold 4.5ml with the pre-coiled wicks, 3ml with the rebuildable head.. but you can rebuilt the precoiled wicks, so I do that instead to get the max juice with the subtanks. I also rebuild them to my own likings, so a 1.0 or a 1.6 ohm coil is not uncommon. :)
Hi and thanks for that , so are you saying i dont need adjustable airflow ? or just get one anyway as then ive got it yeah .
 

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Hi and thanks for that , so are you saying i dont need adjustable airflow ? or just get one anyway as then ive got it yeah .
It's a nice option to have. There's a lot when it comes to customizing someone's vape experience, and everyone has a different taste. some like warmer builds, some cooler, some more clouds, some less, and some with a more dense vapor, and some with a bit more airier vapor.... Adding airflow is another way to customize your vape experience to your liking.

Airflow affects several things with the vaping.. You can get a real tight airflow, which means you drag less air in, but the vapor intensity is more. It's more common with people first starting off vaping to start with a tight airflow, inhale to the mouth first, then inhale from the mouth. That is what you're used to from smoking, and vaping can mimic the "feel" of inhaling a cigarette. That goes a long way in helping someone to quit smoking, or helping someone to continue to vape rather than go back to the stinkies. It also increases the intensity of the vapor, so you get more flavor. As you quit, your preference may change. you may gradually open up the airflow a bit more, up the wattage, and get more vapor. But, start off with what works first, and finding the right airflow is part of it.

Back when I started, adjustable airflow wasn't an option. I had to adjust the airflow by blocking off the airflow with my fingers as I inhaled. It's Now a common feature, and one that's welcomed and needed. The Aspire Nautilus comes with an adjustable airflow. So when you start vaping, you'll see how much of an advantage it is to tailor it. For the first time vapers, it may seem like a lot of info, but when you get the item, you'll be playing with it for a bit to find out what works. In a day or two of vaping, you'll know more about what your preference is. After a year of vaping, it might gradually change from that, but by that time, you'll know more about what to change, and the questions will be more on the lines of how to change it best.
 
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Hi and thanks for that , so are you saying i dont need adjustable airflow ? or just get one anyway as then ive got it yeah .
Me again !! ok found this and is this better than Aspire ? and holds 3.5 ml and comes with 1.5 coil ohm and adjustable airfow , looks better but just need your opinion and its £3 cheaper !! heres info below i copyed and pasted .
KANGER GENITANK MEGA
Product Code: GENI-MEGA
£15.99
In Stock Usually dispatched in 24 hours
Price Match Guarantee (Terms & Conditions Apply)
Quantity:  
The Kanger GeniTank Mega is the larger version of the high end GeniTank clearomizers by KangerTech. It features an airflow system via an adjustable valve which allows the user to customise the amount of air drawn through the tank. The tank itself is made of Pyrex Glass and has a large liquid capacity of 3.5ml.

The atomizer head is a BDC (Bottom Dual Coil) and is completely replaceable. Two spare BDCs are also included along with the pre-installed coil, which means this generously-sized tank system is ready to go out of the box and will last far longer than most other tanks.

Every Kanger GeniTank Mega is compatible with most batteries and features a Drip Tip mouthpiece. The GeniTank Mega also includes a vanity cone which makes the wide tank look good even on thinner batteries.

Contains:

1 x GeniTank Mega
2 x 1.5 ohm coils (1 x installed, 1 x spare)
1 x Beauty Ring
Specifications:

510 compatible
Capacity: 3.5ml
Bottom Dual Coil (BDC)
Pyrex Glass tank
Stainless Steel Drip Tip
 

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Me again !! ok found this and is this better than Aspire ? and holds 3.5 ml and comes with 1.5 coil ohm and adjustable airfow , looks better but just need your opinion and its £3 cheaper !! heres info below i copyed and pasted .
KANGER GENITANK MEGA
Product Code: GENI-MEGA
£15.99
In Stock Usually dispatched in 24 hours
Price Match Guarantee (Terms & Conditions Apply)
Quantity:  
The Kanger GeniTank Mega is the larger version of the high end GeniTank clearomizers by KangerTech. It features an airflow system via an adjustable valve which allows the user to customise the amount of air drawn through the tank. The tank itself is made of Pyrex Glass and has a large liquid capacity of 3.5ml.

The atomizer head is a BDC (Bottom Dual Coil) and is completely replaceable. Two spare BDCs are also included along with the pre-installed coil, which means this generously-sized tank system is ready to go out of the box and will last far longer than most other tanks.

Every Kanger GeniTank Mega is compatible with most batteries and features a Drip Tip mouthpiece. The GeniTank Mega also includes a vanity cone which makes the wide tank look good even on thinner batteries.

Contains:

1 x GeniTank Mega
2 x 1.5 ohm coils (1 x installed, 1 x spare)
1 x Beauty Ring
Specifications:

510 compatible
Capacity: 3.5ml
Bottom Dual Coil (BDC)
Pyrex Glass tank
Stainless Steel Drip Tip
Actually looks huge !!!! blimey not sure now back to the Aspire i think lol.
 

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Me again !! ok found this and is this better than Aspire ? and holds 3.5 ml and comes with 1.5 coil ohm and adjustable airfow , looks better but just need your opinion and its £3 cheaper !! heres info below i copyed and pasted .
KANGER GENITANK MEGA
Product Code: GENI-MEGA
£15.99
In Stock Usually dispatched in 24 hours
Price Match Guarantee (Terms & Conditions Apply)
Quantity:  
The Kanger GeniTank Mega is the larger version of the high end GeniTank clearomizers by KangerTech. It features an airflow system via an adjustable valve which allows the user to customise the amount of air drawn through the tank. The tank itself is made of Pyrex Glass and has a large liquid capacity of 3.5ml.

The atomizer head is a BDC (Bottom Dual Coil) and is completely replaceable. Two spare BDCs are also included along with the pre-installed coil, which means this generously-sized tank system is ready to go out of the box and will last far longer than most other tanks.

Every Kanger GeniTank Mega is compatible with most batteries and features a Drip Tip mouthpiece. The GeniTank Mega also includes a vanity cone which makes the wide tank look good even on thinner batteries.

Contains:

1 x GeniTank Mega
2 x 1.5 ohm coils (1 x installed, 1 x spare)
1 x Beauty Ring
Specifications:

510 compatible
Capacity: 3.5ml
Bottom Dual Coil (BDC)
Pyrex Glass tank
Stainless Steel Drip Tip

Although I don't see anything wrong with this one, I think you still might be better off with the Nautilus. Not to say this is a bad tank, but most of my recommendations are based on what myself and others have found worked, and worked well. The Nautilus is a proven design. Although I am a big fan of the Kangertech brand, the Geni tank hasn't gotten many recommendations. I will say this though, it does look like a large tank. The coils look like they're of the older style, which had a problem with wicking high juices. The coils remind me of the Protank II coils, which had a tiny hole to allow the juice to wick into the coils. Thicker juices had a hard time keeping the coils wet, and it would cause dry hits. I believe these also use Silica wick instead of cotton.

This past year, coils have went through a change, where the wicking holes were enlarged. Also, the preferred wicking material has switched from silica to cotton. This change has allowed for a more consistent vape with less dry hits, and better flavor overall. Although I cannot say for sure whether or not it's a good tank, I'd be leary of it just because of the coil design.
 

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Although I don't see anything wrong with this one, I think you still might be better off with the Nautilus. Not to say this is a bad tank, but most of my recommendations are based on what myself and others have found worked, and worked well. The Nautilus is a proven design. Although I am a big fan of the Kangertech brand, the Geni tank hasn't gotten many recommendations. I will say this though, it does look like a large tank. The coils look like they're of the older style, which had a problem with wicking high juices. The coils remind me of the Protank II coils, which had a tiny hole to allow the juice to wick into the coils. Thicker juices had a hard time keeping the coils wet, and it would cause dry hits. I believe these also use Silica wick instead of cotton.

This past year, coils have went through a change, where the wicking holes were enlarged. Also, the preferred wicking material has switched from silica to cotton. This change has allowed for a more consistent vape with less dry hits, and better flavor overall. Although I cannot say for sure whether or not it's a good tank, I'd be leary of it just because of the coil design.
Thankyou thats cleared that up and again thankyou for all your help on here everybody , Aspire it shall be
 

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Lol.. looking at the sizes now... 74mm tall. Aspire Nautilus is 84.6mm tall. so it's actually shorter.
Mmmmmm yeah i thought Aspire was shorter , wow its a huge tank , whats the mini aspire dimensions even though as from previous help and comments Aspire is the way to go as more modern , but blimey its a big tank lol
 

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Mmmmmm yeah i thought Aspire was shorter , wow its a huge tank , whats the mini aspire dimensions even though as from previous help and comments Aspire is the way to go as more modern , but blimey its a big tank lol
May start of with Aspire mini as only 68mm long but if i run out of juice at home as it only holds 2ml of juice can i top it up while im am out all day without cleaning it , hope you understand what i mean . And thankyou
 

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May start of with Aspire mini as only 68mm long but if i run out of juice at home as it only holds 2ml of juice can i top it up while im am out all day without cleaning it , hope you understand what i mean . And thankyou
Even 68mm long is huge lol !! and are there any smaller ones out there you can recommend that will hold around 3-5 ml of juice and do the same job as the Aspire with airflow etc, dont mind paying a bit more but if i have to start of with the Aspire i will .
 

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May start of with Aspire mini as only 68mm long but if i run out of juice at home as it only holds 2ml of juice can i top it up while im am out all day without cleaning it , hope you understand what i mean . And thankyou
That would be my recommendation. You can't go wrong with the Nautilus mini. I know this since I'm such a newbie and I've had no problems whatsoever. Of course, I had a lot of advice about this tank before I ever got it thanks to this forum so that helped I'm sure. Another plus is that it takes the BVC coils (bottom vertical coil) which are supposed to be much better than the old type that you said the Geni has. Filling the tank once while you're out should be no problem. I would suggest having a rubber band with you though. I keep one in my box at all times because, for the life of me, I can't unscrew the tank to fill it without one. Even when not screwing it on tightly as suggested it still becomes very tightly bound to the glass portion by the time I refill. Just wrap the bottom part of it with the rubber band and it unscrews easily. Then again, this may not be a problem for you at all.

ETA: Also, I think you'll like the airflow control on this tank. I didn't think it would matter much to me but after I got it I realized how nice it is to have it. I generally use it wide open but there are times when I switch it around just for variety. It's nice to have that control.
 
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This thread is going great. (Nice to sit back and watch it unfold).

@reed007 - stick with the Aspire tanks if you can. The (newer) subtanks are great, but the 'older' Kanger stuff is a bit dodgy at times.

I vaped under 2ml each day, every day, until I discovered the Nautilus. It's worth the extra 1ml of liquid (3ml a day). A subtank can drain 4ml before you know it...
 
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This thread is going great. (Nice to sit back and watch it unfold).

@reed007 - stick with the Aspire tanks if you can. The (newer) subtanks are great, but the 'older' Kanger stuff is a bit dodgy at times.

I vaped under 2ml each day, every day, until I discovered the Nautilus. It's worth the extra 1ml of liquid (3ml a day). A subtank can drain 4ml before you know it...
Hi and yes think ive started something on here and its great , yes definately guna stick with Aspire and do you recommend the larger tank then and not the 2ml as i prob use more than 2ml tbh to start of with , but yes great thread and now to decide Aspire mini or the very large tank !!
 

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Hi and yes think ive started something on here and its great , yes definately guna stick with Aspire and do you recommend the larger tank then and not the 2ml as i prob use more than 2ml tbh to start of with , but yes great thread and now to decide Aspire mini or the very large tank !!

LOL.... :)

read007. You can tell what I think of vaping products by how many I have. If I like something, I'll buy loads of them until I get bored and give them away.

I have ZERO full-sized Nautilus tanks. I also most certainly do not own a full sized Subtank.

I do have a Taifun GT though, and that looked so crazy on the iStick 30w, I bought a Sigelei mini.

The 50w is much more suited to the bigger tanks. Maybe the big one (5ml) would actually look better....

....still not going to fit in my pocket though.. :)
 
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There are two tanks that Aspire makes.. they have the NAutilus and the Nautilus mini. They both use the same 1.6 or 1.8 ohm coils. The Nautilus is 22mm, which should come to the edge of the istick 50w, the mini is 18.5mm, which is slightly larger than an ego battery, and shouldn't reach the edges of the istick. 50w. The Nautilus holds 5ml of juice, and the mini holds 2ml of juice. Both use pyrex glass. both have adjustable airflow from tight (mouth to lung) to medium (borderline direct lung)

The Kanger Subtank uses a .5 or a 1.2 ohm coil, they also have a 18.5mm and a 22mm size. The 18.5mm nano holds 3ml of juice, and the 22mm mini holds 4.5ml. the airflow is medium to large with no mouth to lung inhales possible. The subtank mini also comes with a rebuildable section, but this further reduces the ml capacity.

So, just because of the airflow, I would still recommend the nautilus line. if you can find the Nautilus and not the mini, maybe that would be your preferred vape.
 
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