Need help using 18650 batteries

[Demonantis]

Hello,

I just got a bunch of 18650 batteries that I thought were protected and are not on closer inspection. I know they are dangerous, but are they usable in mods? Specifically the k200 or k100. Are there relatively cheap mods that manage over and under charging themselves?

Thanks.

 

[ducker74]

what is the full battery spec?

 

[John_]

If your charger is protected (which it better be) then the only problem you'll run into is over-draining your batteries. Some APV's have protections against this but if you're using a mechanical without some sort of protection, just don't use it for too long.

Hello,

I just got a bunch of 18650 batteries that I thought were protected and are not on closer inspection. I know they are dangerous, but are they usable in mods? Specifically the k200 or k100. Are there relatively cheap mods that manage over and under charging themselves?

Thanks.

 

[trouble1000]

You could always get a vape safe fuse, if you're using an unproteted battery in an unprotected mod.

 

[ducker74]

Just FYI here is a pretty decent link I found when researching batteries. http://bumblevape.com/article/25/105/0/Mechanical Mod Proper Usage Guide
Hope it helps.

 

[even_keel]

Just because batteries aren't protected doesn't mean they're not safe. Some folks argue that there are safer-chemistry unprotected batteries that are superior to protected batteries. Do you have any more specs on the batteries?

 

[awsum140]

Better yet, just what type of unprotected battery did you get? Many unprotected batteries are intrinsically safer due to their chemistry.

 

[Bill's Magic Vapor]

Safe chemistry batteries, those marked IMR, in a regulated, protected APV, are probably the best way to go no matter what. You have the protection from the device plus the safe chemistry means that the worst thing that may happen is they may leak, but they won't explode or anything. Lots of threads on this, and lots of Vets here with a passion about batteries. Surely, others will chime in about this along the same lines. I use only IMR Batteries, preferring AW, MNKE, Pannies, and Efest. Most consider the AW the safest IMR battery out there. Do some research on this forum. Don't worry, be happy!

 

[Nosmik]

I use a Panasonic 18650 on my K100 all day (chain vaping) and don't even get it down to 3.5v. If you are still worried, get a fuse or get one of those mini voltmeters and check every once in a while.

 

[AttyPops]

what is the full battery spec?

Better yet, just what type of unprotected battery did you get? Many unprotected batteries are intrinsically safer due to their chemistry.

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[Demonantis]

Woah, thanks for the very quick replies. I really appreciate the feedback and information.

The batteries are cheap chinese 2000mah lithium cobalt. I bought them recently intending to use them in a flashlight so this was more of an after thought when I found out apvs use them.

I currently have 510-ts which have a frustratingly short battery life. So what I am getting from all this, the bubblevape article, and other forum threads is they are fine as long as I am not using them in mechanicals and only buying IMRs in the future wouldn't be a bad idea. Thanks again everyone.

 

[AttyPops]

That's still not a very good spec (manufacturer and model # would be better).

For example:

The drawback of Li-cobalt is a relatively short life span and limited load capabilities (specific power).

Types of Lithium-ion Batteries

Basically, if you're not sure don't use em until you get complete specs. Also note that APV's with boosters (most VV models) require "high drain" batteries. They draw extra amps to boost the volts...so you're drawing more amps than you might think.

And for mech mods, you need to know how they perform during catastrophic failure. IMR is often suggested. There are some hybrids that are often used too but it depends on the specific model. And remember that any coil can short at some point when it "pops".

So get exact specs or don't use them, IMHO. I'm in the "abundance of caution" camp.

 

[Baditude]

I totally agree with Attypops. Don't use those batteries until you know exactly what they are. The ONLY batteries you should use in a mod are Li Ion (protected variety) or Li Mn (safer chemistry, high drain, IMR) batteries.

I typically recommend the red AW IMR batteries. Been a top quality battery for years, and recommended by ECF as the safest battery you can purchase. http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/ecf-library/129569-rechargeable-batteries.html

AW IMR 18650 2000 mAh