Need Suggestions for Introducing Vaping to Family Member.

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NoMatches

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'Matches, we started out in the newbie section together and it's nice to see we both like to "share the wealth," which is how I look at V4L. I had the same problem starting and dropped to 0mg for awhile and am slowly working my way up the nicotine ladder to find the right amount. However, that leaves me with a considerable number of 0mg cartos that I won't be using that I would be happy to donate to the cause of beloved nieces & nephews. Please PM me an address and I can mail a menthol sampler packs plus some random flavors like butterscotch, cinnamon (I think), etc. I might also have coffee but I would stay away from that, at least in the beginning. Some of them left a nasty "burned" taste on my tongue. Please let me know and good luck to you and your family :)

Kanza! How incredibly kind of you to offer! V4L peeps sure are an amazing bunch!

Thanks all for the great suggestions. I am still mulling over the mg's... surely some 4's, 8's, and I have some 18's in stock, non menthols I can give her. The V4L freebies sure are nice when faced with something like this! While some of them may not row my boat, a situation like this might (I REALLY hope) could mean a new customer. Thanks again all! It will be a few days before I order, so any more suggestions would also be most welcome, and thanks again you V4L'ers!
 

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NoMatches, if your niece-in-law likes chocolate, I would strongly recommend a pack of Premium Chocolate Peppermint 4mg or 8mg as the "wild card" 5-pack, in addition to the menthol and/or coffee samplers everyone has mentioned.

I got one as a freebie (would never have ordered it), and WOW is it delicious! Very delicate, but distinctly both chocolate and minty.
 

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I smoked 2 packs a day of Marlboro Light 100s. I had cut way down before trying
E-Cigs. I started at 24.....went down to 18....then back to 24 for awhile. I have
settled at 18. I hope to go down to 11 soon. I think your friend should have some
18s and 11s to try as well. Maybe even 24. Just my opinion.
 
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'Matches - just sent you a PM :)

Eleanor - I thought I knew every flavor V4L had and wonder how the heck did I miss that one? Your recommendation alone earns it a "must try" because you have excellent taste :) How're things in my old stomping grounds? Well, the KCKN area, that is :) Guess that would be KCKS now...showing my age again :p

Sally - that's a good point. vaping even an 8 almost killed me my first try so I went down to 4 then to 0 and, although they made me happy, I discovered I still had analog cravings and am slowly trying to work my way up to 8 and 11 to compensate. She should have something a little stronger for that time. Good luck with your drop to 11 :)
 

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I am going to go down a different path on this subject, so bare with me on this Nomatches.

I find pushing e-cigarettes onto friends and family members has about 5% success rate. It creates unneeded and undue tension and generally is not worth the energy, frustration or effort.

Now that's a pretty bold statement, so allow to me support it with a little explanation. As former smokers most of us have tried to quit via cold turkey, patches, gum, hypno-therapy, etc. until we finally were open to the idea of trying e-cigarettes. We were self-motivated.

E-cigs have been around for quite a few years, so ask yourself why you didn't try them 2 or 3 years ago? Chances are it was because you weren't ready and as we all know first hand it's not just as simple as buy it and it works. It's a commitment and for it to be truly successful one must be highly motivated.

Bombarding a smoker with guilt ridden rationale shouldn't be a desired role for anyone take on. Yet it happens because many new vapers are so overwhelmed by their own success they want to project their success and share it with others, especially loved ones.

I have friends and family members try my e-cigs out of curiosity or to perhaps simply please me since they saw that I was so excited about it. When I had first started these gestures on their behalf triggered me to pounce on them, get them hooked-up, excessively rant about my own success, and health benefits. I was basically brow beating them into trying e-cigs only to have their experience become an epic fail within weeks.

Now I take a different tack which has had a 100% success rate so far. For the most part I do nothing. Sounds crazy but I simply vape when I am around them and honestly tell them how much I enjoy it only when asked. My friends and family all know I smoked for 30+ years and that I had tried every avenue available to quit smoking in the past.

When a friend, family member or acquaintance approaches me and says, "So those things work for you..huh? Maybe I should try those because I desperately want to quit, I've tried everything else and nothing worked for me." When I hear that I know this is somebody that is ready mentally to make the switch. That's when I reply, "Give me you e-mail address, I"ll send you some links to read up on it and touch base with you in a week or so."

If it turns out that they won't even make the effort to look into the links I provided it shows to me that they aren't ready. If they have actually taken the time to look at the links, read up on e-cigs, and approach me with questions, then I offer to lend them a starter kit.

This relieves me of the burden of trying to convince them and places me in the position of simply assisting them. In every case (a dozen+) this approach has been completely successful and best of all stress-free. People do better when they come to a decision on their own and this is especially true when dealing with addiction.

In any case Nomatches I wish you the best of luck, your heart is in the right place. :2cool:
 
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Hey Kanza, it's buried towards the bottom of the Premium Cartos page, with a pic of a York Patty (which IMHO doesn't really match the flavor). As for the "excellence" of my tastes:blush:, well, you know what they say . . . tastes are subjective, and chacun a son gout!:blush:

Anyhoo, I hope you enjoy it. I was certainly pleasantly surprised.

KCMO is still a fairly nice place to live, even though it seems to be chronically run by idiots. I live just south of the Plaza, near all the boulevards and Ward Parkway and Loose Park and the fountains fountains fountains . . . so it's hard to complain! The climate though (especially winter) is really starting to get to these Southern bones . . .
 

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Yeah, these past few winters it's been more like an inch of snow every ten hours. Plus the ice and freezing rain storms. Plus the "thunder snows" (when I first heard that term, I thought someone was pulling my leg. Nope. We actually get raging thunderstorms where the wind blows and the thunder rolls and the water pours down as snowflakes.)

And I swear, I will never get used to overnight lows of -40 (without wind chill). That's downright Jack London "To Light a Fire" territory! (Consider yourself lucky in Pittsburgh. This "continental climate" out here truly takes the cake in extremes!)
 

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Thanks, Eleanor, for your recommendation - just ordered some :) Love everything peppermint that they have so this should be great! I know all about the weather there...I grew up in Ottawa (near Olathe) and, in truth, I miss it :p I think only Rome has more fountains than KC but KC definitely has more "weather" than Rome (or almost any other place, come to think of it)!!! I attended W&M and kept waiting for THUNDER and LIGHTNING but it never happened :( But it took living in Louisville for a tornado to hit my house <sigh>

Matches - I agree with Snow in that it worked in my family...I really talked up how much I loved vaping and how yummy it all was :) I asked if they'd like to be setup with a starter kit and they jumped on it! They love it and will soon be placing their first order but I guess I was lucky ;) Everyone is different and I hope you find the way to bring her to vaping!! We'll all be here for you and, by extension, your niece as well :) Good luck :)
 

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How could there be no thunder and lightning in Williamsburg? They get a storm in Tidewater every 15 minutes in summer. :) At least it seemed so. I lived 5 years in Richmond.

I LOVED living in Richmond. I miss it very badly.

That said, dear Joyce, let me assure you . . . those charming li'l weather events we have in Virginia that get called "thunderstorms" are mere child's play, compared to the MIDWESTERN version.

I used to LOVE "thunderstorms." Or so I thought. Then I moved out to KC.
O.M.G.
Furious black wall clouds at noon. Any remaining light turns an eerie, yellow-green. The air get super heavy, super still, pregnant with humidity and . . . something else. Ozone? Then IT begins. ARTILLERY FIRE. LOUD. Incessant. The walls shake. The ground shakes. The rain comes down so hard, and then the hail, pea-to-golf ball size. Cars left outside are pitted for life, windows occasionally broken. Lightening flashes so huge, so blindingly bright, like supernatural oak trees shrieking across the universe down to hit the ground. Then BOOOOOOOMMMMMM! More artillery fire. And on it goes. Sometimes for an hour or more.

I was never actually frightened by weather until I moved out here. Yes, I used to love thunderstorms. Until I got to know the "real" thing! Yowza! Quantum-universe difference yowza!:shock::shock::(:(
 
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