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JessVapes

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Brand new to vaping but I'm already hooked. I'm also ready to move to a drip from my eGo. I just ordered the Neptune Hybrid because it was on sale from the manufacturer. They have a new model out which is why it is so darn cheap...Just wanted some thoughts on this. Has anyone used this drip hybrid before? I'm really a no frills type of person so I thought this would be ideal. I also ordered the coils and cotton and battery as well. I'm excited to see what this drip thing is all about.
 

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I don't have one. Did you buy just the dripper or the whole mod? If the mod, please be careful. That's a pure mechanical, not the gear I would recommend for a new vaper or someone not an accomplished coil builder already. By their nature, there are serious safety concerns with mechanical mods as they have no protection circuitry at all. Rule number one is get an ohmmeter and use it. Never fire a build in any kind of RBA on any mod without first checking the assembled atty for resistance to guard against a short circuit. A short is always very bad news and on a mech it's a catastrophe looking for the spot with the X on it. Next, buy good batteries from a reputable dealer, and a good charger as well. I recommend Sony VTC4s exclusively in mechs, and Nitecore or Xtar chargers. Finally, don't build that atty below .5 Ohms total-- you're going to find the best vape between .6 and .7, I will bet-- until you understand more about it. Remember, that's a dual coil atomizer. For duals, the individual coils must be as close to identical as you can make them, and the total resistance will be half the value of each coil. Thus, for .5, you will need 2 x 1 ohm coils.

Seriously, be very careful. You'd be much better off with a regulated mod until you gain some experience building some coils. You may want to consider selling that mod and getting a regulated one, or putting it away for a while. Really.
 

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I don't have one. Did you buy just the dripper or the whole mod? If the mod, please be careful. That's a pure mechanical, not the gear I would recommend for a new vaper or someone not an accomplished coil builder already. By their nature, there are serious safety concerns with mechanical mods as they have no protection circuitry at all. Rule number one is get an ohmmeter and use it. Never fire a build in any kind of RBA on any mod without first checking the assembled atty for resistance to guard against a short circuit. A short is always very bad news and on a mech it's a catastrophe looking for the spot with the X on it. Next, buy good batteries from a reputable dealer, and a good charger as well. I recommend Sony VTC4s exclusively in mechs, and Nitecore or Xtar chargers. Finally, don't build that atty below .5 Ohms total-- you're going to find the best vape between .6 and .7, I will bet-- until you understand more about it. Remember, that's a dual coil atomizer. For duals, the individual coils must be as close to identical as you can make them, and the total resistance will be half the value of each coil. Thus, for .5, you will need 2 x 1 ohm coils.

Seriously, be very careful. You'd be much better off with a regulated mod until you gain some experience building some coils. You may want to consider selling that mod and getting a regulated one, or putting it away for a while. Really.


I should have mentioned that I am an engineer with a B.S. in physics. Not ....ting on your point at all... I can definitely see how this would be a bad purchase for someone who does not know how to operate a voltmeter. I don't see this as a problem for me.
 

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I should have mentioned that I am an engineer with a B.S. in physics. Not ....ting on your point at all... I can definitely see how this would be a bad purchase for someone who does not know how to operate a voltmeter. I don't see this as a problem for me.
Very well then. Oddly enough, so am I; although I'm engineering, not physics :) Over to you. If you have a solid understanding of Ohm's Law you know what you're doing. I do want to repeat my advice about good batteries from a reliable vendor. I really do like the Sony VTC4s in mechanical mods, and these are often counterfeited. If you'd like a recommendation as to where to buy, sing out. You said you "ordered coils," did you mean pre-made ones? I wind my own which is part of the fun I think. You'll find an excellent coil calculator in Steam Engine if you'd like to try. There are also good coil tools available, but I started on drill bits just for an accurate diameter. I find the heat flux section off to the right of the calculator to be of particular use in finding a good build; doubtless you will understand it at a glance. I am of the opinion getting a good build in a mech is more art than science. Not that it couldn't be calculated, but that all the data are not known. I find I build and build again until I get what I want and then try to repeat it next time it needs it. You also ordered cotton, and that's good. I started there also. However, I have lately made the shift to cellucotton/rayon. I think it wicks better and tastes better. Again, ask away for tips and pointers, and welcome to the wonderful world of mech mods. I have been a mekkie for some time, and I love them. Finally, if you feel an apology is in order for the tone of my previous post, be kind enough to consider one extended. I'm sure you understand my concerns, however. We get a lot of people around here who really don't know what they're doing. I could tell you stories... we had a dude just today, using a faux-hybrid mod-- where the 510 just screws in to the top of the mod and directly contacts that battery-- without enough clearance between the outer threads and the center pin. He wanted to know what the black marks were on the top of his battery, God help us. Having the math, I understand what releasing the energy contained in an 18650 in a few microseconds within a confined stainless tube inches from the face would do. Surely I have had that nightmare enough :) Vape on, vape safe and vape happy...
 

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Very well then. Oddly enough, so am I; although I'm engineering, not physics :) Over to you. If you have a solid understanding of Ohm's Law you know what you're doing. I do want to repeat my advice about good batteries from a reliable vendor. I really do like the Sony VTC4s in mechanical mods, and these are often counterfeited. If you'd like a recommendation as to where to buy, sing out. You said you "ordered coils," did you mean pre-made ones? I wind my own which is part of the fun I think. You'll find an excellent coil calculator in Steam Engine if you'd like to try. There are also good coil tools available, but I started on drill bits just for an accurate diameter. I find the heat flux section off to the right of the calculator to be of particular use in finding a good build; doubtless you will understand it at a glance. I am of the opinion getting a good build in a mech is more art than science. Not that it couldn't be calculated, but that all the data are not known. I find I build and build again until I get what I want and then try to repeat it next time it needs it. You also ordered cotton, and that's good. I started there also. However, I have lately made the shift to cellucotton/rayon. I think it wicks better and tastes better. Again, ask away for tips and pointers, and welcome to the wonderful world of mech mods. I have been a mekkie for some time, and I love them. Finally, if you feel an apology is in order for the tone of my previous post, be kind enough to consider one extended. I'm sure you understand my concerns, however. We get a lot of people around here who really don't know what they're doing. I could tell you stories... we had a dude just today, using a faux-hybrid mod-- where the 510 just screws in to the top of the mod and directly contacts that battery-- without enough clearance between the outer threads and the center pin. He wanted to know what the black marks were on the top of his battery, God help us. Having the math, I understand what releasing the energy contained in an 18650 in a few microseconds within a confined stainless tube inches from the face would do. Surely I have had that nightmare enough :) Vape on, vape safe and vape happy...


I was not under the impression that you had any kind of negative tone whatsoever! Thank you so much for the great insight. Like I said I am completely new to vaping so I'll take any kind of advise I can get. I just wanted to get it out there that, while I realize the potential dangers of delving into rebuilding something I have never done before, I have an elevated understanding of how this works on a purely functional level. I do not, however, have an understanding of the behaviors of material within the mechanism. Thank you so much for all of your help! Keep it coming!
 

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I was not under the impression that you had any kind of negative tone whatsoever! Thank you so much for the great insight. Like I said I am completely new to vaping so I'll take any kind of advise I can get. I just wanted to get it out there that, while I realize the potential dangers of delving into rebuilding something I have never done before, I have an elevated understanding of how this works on a purely functional level. I do not, however, have an understanding of the behaviors of material within the mechanism. Thank you so much for all of your help! Keep it coming!
Fair enough. It will all make better sense when you have the pieces in your hands. (By the way, that's a truly beautiful mod; I'm envious.) Give us a shout when the gear comes in and you can get a close look at it. Let me further suggest you buy a atomizer ohmmeter, if you have not already. Much easier than using my Fluke. They look like this:
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Hi @JessVapes and welcome aboard!

Glad to see you are starting down the road to mechs on the right foot! It's an adventure for sure, and can be fun to boot. I'm sure I don't have to tell you to keep everything in your mech clean, so I won't :lol:

Anyway, welcome aboard and Happy Vaping!
 
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I have one of these, happened to get lucky and win it. I did some modifications to mine right out of the gate. The 28 gauge kanthal will work just fine. I personally run 26 gague with a 3mm inside diameter, dual coil. Since you are just getting into it you should be fine with the airflow, but that was a big complaint on this version. No adjustment and it's rather restrictive.

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I ordered 28 gauge Kanthal wire on a spool. Not pre-made, in all honesty I would have ordered pre-made if I knew it existed
They do, they're all over eBay. You're probably going to want a coil tool. As I said, I started with drill bits for a good internal coil diameter. A drill index will get you started. The coil calculator I linked you will accept any diameter you care to enter, in Imperial or metric measurements.
 
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I have one of these, happened to get lucky and win it. I did some modifications to mine right out of the gate. The 28 gauge kanthal will work just fine. I personally run 26 gague with a 3mm inside diameter, dual coil. Since you are just getting into it you should be fine with the airflow, but that was a big complaint on this version. No adjustment and it's rather restrictive.

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Did you drill larger airflow holes?
 

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You've got the Fluke, you will be fine. In reality the neptune head won't fit onto one of those meters. I handle all my coils the old fashioned way. Measurements and math.

Yes I drilled out the airflow, and I opened up the post holes to accommodate thicker wire

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I'd like to avoid buying an ohmmeter. My Fluke reads 3 past the decimal. Do you find this device is necessary?
No. But I do find it useful. Most of the Fluke meters are not real accurate below one Ohm, but then neither is this one. It's just a cheapie. However, being able to just screw the base into is easier, I find, than trying to hold the base with one hand and the two meter probes in the other two hands. It also makes a very nice building stand-- perhaps less so for you because you have a hybrid albeit it comes with a 510 adapter, I read-- another tool you don't yet know you need :)
 
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