never smoked an analog, but vaping is awesome!

[stillalive]

Hi! *waves* I'm a "nonsmoker" (in that I've never even held a "real" cigarette before), but I'm borrowing a friend's e-cig, and I swear that nicotine is the best thing ever. I have a lot of problems with depression and concentration, and so far nicotine helps way better than any meds I've tried to date. Plus it's legal and has a lot less side effects than the prescriptions! And as a handy plus, I won't feel like a dufus when I sit outside with my friends who are smoking.

I'm waiting on a paycheck to order my very own e-cig (probably a shiny black penstyle-- domestic vapor seems to have the cheapest manual kit, and I read that manual is safer if I decide I like dripping). I can hardly wait!!! I'm also looking forward to getting a variety of juices... especially pomegranate, cheesecake, piña colada, clove, and bacon (especially since going vegetarian).

I'm a little nervous about anyone finding out since I come from an extremely Christian household, but compared to coming out to my mom about my same-gender partner, this should be super easy! Anyways, so nice to meet everyone. Seems like a very friendly board with highly intelligent people!

 

[mohawkx]

Hi! *waves* I'm a "nonsmoker" (in that I've never even held a "real" cigarette before), but I'm borrowing a friend's e-cig, and I swear that nicotine is the best thing ever. I have a lot of problems with depression and concentration, and so far nicotine helps way better than any meds I've tried to date. Plus it's legal and has a lot less side effects than the prescriptions! And as a handy plus, I won't feel like a dufus when I sit outside with my friends who are smoking.

I'm waiting on a paycheck to order my very own e-cig (probably a shiny black penstyle-- domestic vapor seems to have the cheapest manual kit, and I read that manual is safer if I decide I like dripping). I can hardly wait!!! I'm also looking forward to getting a variety of juices... especially pomegranate, cheesecake, piña colada, clove, and bacon (especially since going vegetarian).
I'm a little nervous about anyone finding out since I come from an extremely Christian household, but compared to coming out to my mom about my same-gender partner, this should be super easy! Anyways, so nice to meet everyone. Seems like a very friendly board with highly intelligent people!

If you're not a troll, then you've managed to hit every trolling high point in the whole arena of e-cigs.
1. you're a nonsmoker who has just decided to start an addiction to nicotine.
2. You have a psychological medical condition and you are going to self medicate with an addictive substance.
3. Peer approval takes precident over injesting an addictive substance. Just to feel liked.
4. Creating apprehension due to family approval issues. Especially your mother. Are you of age?
5. Gay discussion issues belong in other forums. This one is about e-cigs.

I'm surprised you didn't mention that you've always had a craving for anti freeze.

If you're not a troll, then you are experiencing every contentious issue concerning the responsible use of e-cig including personal, family drama.

I do not approve of non smokers taking up a nicotine addiction from any device.
I do not approve of wanting to fit in by using nicotine
I do not approve of self medication for psychological afflictions

Generally these issues are of such import to the e-cig community that each one deserves it's own thread.

I strongly advise you not to take up nicotine as your choice. Good luck to you.

 

[MasterofChaos]

vaping IS fun, isn't it? I'm a nonsmoker too, but I've always wanted to smoke a pipe and cigars, however my wife is super freaky about non-smoking (I understand completely, since her mother and many members of her family died of COPD). So that kind of puts me in the same situation as you.

However, I find that as long as I vape outside of her presence (zero nic juice, of course), it doesn't bother her.

Plus I've seen a lot of posts/threads on the ECF wondering if e-juice is bad for your lungs - all I can say is my lungs are about as virginal as you can get, and if I can vape away and it doesn't bother me at all, there can't be much bad stuff going on in there. I for one would surely notice it if there was.

I'm more worried about the solvents, lead, and flux fumes I've been breathing every day for the last 30 years (I'm an electrical engineer) giving me cancer than e-juice!

As far as your Christian upbringing is concerned, stillalive, my understanding is that the main objection most staunch Christians have against smoking is the whole "treat your body like a temple" thing, and if all you are inhaling is water vapor, I don't see how they could have any objections to it.

 

[MasterofChaos]

Mohawkx,

Who says you have to have nic to vape??

I can't stand the stuff (it makes me cough), however I really enjoy vaping.

I don't even inhale most of the time!

 

[haft2doit]

This thread seems very fishy to me....

 

[NCC]

... and if all you are inhaling is water vapor, I don't see how they could have any objections to it.

And there lies the rub. That's most DEFINITELY NOT all that's being inhaled. I doubt it is even the major constituent of what's being exhaled, but certainly not what is being inhaled. That would be vaporised PG &/or VG, food flavoring, optionally nicotine, and most likely food coloring.

 

[garyinco]

If you're not a troll, then you've managed to hit every trolling high point in the whole arena of e-cigs...

LOL. Good post.

 

[mohawkx]

Mohawkx,

Who says you have to have nic to vape??

I can't stand the stuff (it makes me cough), however I really enjoy vaping.

I don't even inhale most of the time!

The OP say's he vapes for the nicotine to self medicate his depression instead of perscription drugs because of the expense and that nicotine makes him feel good. Plus the fact that he's never touched an analog in his life. Totally different situation and agenda than yours.

If you fully parse that post you will find that the op has hit every hot button issue concerning vaping and lifestyles masterfully. He is a troll or in serious need of some help and proper guidance.

 

[JerryRM]

I agree with Mohawkx and haft2doit. But just in case you are sincere, all I can say is DON'T do it. If you have never used nicotine, don't start now. I and the vast majority of members here would never encourage a non smoker to start vaping.

Edit: Even if you don't use nicotine, the "hand to mouth" habit is very addictive too. Perhaps more so, than the nicotine addiction, which I believe is why many smokers who have quit for any length of time, start smoking again.

 

[MasterofChaos]

Okay, fair enough! My apologies.

I just thought you were jumping down the guy's throat because he was a non-smoker who wanted to vape.

We DO exist, you know. Not everyone who vapes is a smoker (or likes nicotine!), although granted, that is the overwhelming majority of vapers.

Just out of curiosity, why would anyone troll like that? Has there been problems with this sort of thing on the ECF in the past??

 

[CountVapula]

If you're not a troll, then you've managed to hit every trolling high point in the whole arena of e-cigs.
1. you're a nonsmoker who has just decided to start an addiction to nicotine.
2. You have a psychological medical condition and you are going to self medicate with an addictive substance.
3. Peer approval takes precident over injesting an addictive substance. Just to feel liked.
4. Creating apprehension due to family approval issues. Especially your mother. Are you of age?
5. Gay discussion issues belong in other forums. This one is about e-cigs.

I'm surprised you didn't mention that you've always had a craving for anti freeze.

If you're not a troll, then you are experiencing every contentious issue concerning the responsible use of e-cig including personal, family drama.

I do not approve of non smokers taking up a nicotine addiction from any device.
I do not approve of wanting to fit in by using nicotine
I do not approve of self medication for psychological afflictions

Generally these issues are of such import to the e-cig community that each one deserves it's own thread.

I strongly advise you not to take up nicotine as your choice. Good luck to you.

all of that was a bit harsh, i dont see anything wrong with what he wrote. its his choice to vape or not whether hes a non smoker or not, im not going to encourage anyone to use nicotine but adults can make their own decisions.

 

[swedishfish]

If you don't think this person is sincere, why bother to respond?

Isn't that the whole point of trolling? I find it funny that there are actual posts from newbies that get like two responses then someone comes along that is suspected of trolling and by tomorrow this thread with be three pages long.

 

[mohawkx]

A vegetarian who can't wait to vape bacon. GIVE ME A BREAK!

 

[ShannonA]

I don't advise starting an addiction to nicotine... on the other hand advice didn't stop me... if you are an adult all I can say is it's your life.

 

[MasterofChaos]

Bacon (or any meat flavoured e-juice) just seems gross to me.

BTW, I find that vaping helps with sweets-cravings. And it gives my hands something to do while I'm working on the computer.

 

[MasterofChaos]

Plus I already have a hand-to-mouth fixation (chew on pens, toothpicks, whatever), so that part is nothing new.

 

[MasterofChaos]

I also chew on my pinky, as you can see from my avatar.

 

[mohawkx]

all of that was a bit harsh, i dont see anything wrong with what he wrote. its his choice to vape or not whether hes a non smoker or not, im not going to encourage anyone to use nicotine but adults can make their own decisions.

Along with all the other hot button issues he stated that he may have problems with his mom or vaping and nicotine. Are you sure he is even an adult? He certainly didn't make that clear.
If I'm wrong, I will personally get on my hands and knees and beg him for forgiveness in front of everyone of you. And then I will beg him not to take up a nicotine addiction.
Every thing he stated is the claims by the anti cig clique
that claim the e-cigs are a gateway delivery system for non smokers
People will self medicate with it to treat other medical problems
Minors who never smoke will use it
Vegetarians will use it to get their bacon fix.



I did wish him the best of luck, though.

 

[stillalive]

Sorry, I didn't mean to come across as a troll! (and I am a girl, btw, not a guy). I have a lot of friends who vape even though they've never smoked, and the smokers-to-vapers in our group were never offended by them vaping nicotine juices. Also, the friend from whom I'm borrowing my current e-cig is a smoker and was really nice and encouraging about vaping, so I didn't realize it was a hot-button issue.

I actually found out about using nicotine for concentration while looking up scientific studies about different medications. I was going to start buying the nicotine patch, but then I remembered about vaping. I've been on a ton of different psych meds, but none of them have worked for me, and some have given me horrible side effects like Parkinson's symptoms (which luckily went away when I stopped). I'm on a medicine now that half works, but life is still pretty hard, especially in the concentration department. I already snack compulsively (it's pretty bad), so I'm extremely familiar with the hand-to-mouth dilemma. Actually, I'm sort of hoping this will be healthier solution for that as well, since my doctor is concerned about the weight I've been gaining from snacking while I stress over finishing college. So far vaping with my friend's e-cig has been pretty life-changing, and not just because it 'felt good.' I suddenly was able to pay attention to things for the first time in ages. I'm starting a master's program soon, so getting my ADD issues properly under control was absolutely critical for me.

BTW, not everyone goes vegetarian because they think meat is gross. Why would they make fake bacon and burgers if that was the case? Lol. Bacon vape and being able to participate in something my friends do is completely secondary to being able to focus on my work! Also, I'm going to vehemently reject the idea that people aren't allowed to mention being homosexual in passing. If I had mentioned I was stressed about introducing my boyfriend to a mom who didn't want me to date at all, would I be bringing up straight issues on the wrong forum?

And I'm 22, Mohawkx, so you can kindly get off your high horse... I think it speaks to the strictness of my household that I still keep secrets from my mom-- I still haven't been able to summon up the courage to tell her I have a girlfriend, don't go to religious services, etc. I will certainly not be telling her about this unless she somehow catches me (which is unlikely, since we will soon be several thousand miles away).

Anyways, isn't there a no flaming rule on here? I would think that would be especially applicable to newbies who are following rules, but apparently not.

 

[stillalive]

The OP say's he vapes for the nicotine to self medicate his depression instead of perscription drugs because of the expense and that nicotine makes him feel good.

That's not what I wrote at all. I have treatment/medication-resistant depression and a psychiatrist who doesn't believe in medicating for adult ADD/ADHD. I've tried everything possible without success, and nicotine is the only substance that has worked even marginally well for me. I'm glad it's so accessible and cheap, but if a medication worked better I would take it, regardless of cost. And as mentioned, I am on an anti-depressant, but it only works so-so for depression, and not at all for concentration problems.