Never smoked. Start vaping?
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A lot of people are freaking out about the addiction factor of nicotine. However! If you look at statistics and anecdotal evidence in the thread here from non-smokers who have gone down the vaping path already, it's very hard to get addicted to nicotine without the other things in tobacco. Most of us who have not experienced tobacco use but tried vaping have reported that despite our best efforts to get addicted (for science!) it's no more addicting than caffeine, if that much.
I certainly appreciate the difficulty with addiction that people who once smoked face, but I think they need to understand that their experience with PVs does not and cannot represent the experience of non-tobacco users.
To people who were never addicted to tobacco, nicotine does not seem to be very addictive.
Also, please keep in mind that nicotine use before the age of 19 or so is typically what triggers the addiction part of the brain. Nicotine could be called the true gateway drug because it changes young teenagers' brains to become addicted to nicotine and harder drugs. However, for adults, nicotine by itself (with no former tobacco consumption) does not rewire the brain in the same way.
I appreciate the concern in this thread, but a lot of misinformation is being presented as fact to scare the OP away. A little research into how nicotine works and why will show you that the OP is probably pretty safe from developing a nicotine addiction.
I certainly appreciate the difficulty with addiction that people who once smoked face, but I think they need to understand that their experience with PVs does not and cannot represent the experience of non-tobacco users.
To people who were never addicted to tobacco, nicotine does not seem to be very addictive.Also, please keep in mind that nicotine use before the age of 19 or so is typically what triggers the addiction part of the brain. Nicotine could be called the true gateway drug because it changes young teenagers' brains to become addicted to nicotine and harder drugs. However, for adults, nicotine by itself (with no former tobacco consumption) does not rewire the brain in the same way.
I appreciate the concern in this thread, but a lot of misinformation is being presented as fact to scare the OP away. A little research into how nicotine works and why will show you that the OP is probably pretty safe from developing a nicotine addiction.
THIS. I've only gotten a little cranky whenever my blu cartos ran out. It's not really near as bad as (I imagine) analog cigs are. There's no real evidence that nicotine alone has any truly bad properties to it, since it's always been seen with tobacco and a million other chemicals strapped onto it. All I've noticed is a sort of toned-down "zen" feeling. Able to concentrate more, look at conflicts with more of a third-person perspective. Some people say I probably have ADD, but I've never been officially tested for such.
Normally, I would say wait till there's more conclusive evidence, but if you have your mind set to it, better this than analogues. Best of luck, cheers.
I am going to go against the grain here. I can understand the OPs situation. I have suffered from Refractory Major Clinical Depression and GAD all my life. I am 45 years old and just started smoking regularly 2 years ago. My physical health has deteriorated greatly in that time frame. Vaping has become a viable alternative. And I am really not trying to play devils advocate, but I sure didnt go see my DR when I decided to start smoking. And I doubt I would have listened to anyone if they would have told me to do so. And yes, I see my DR regularly and well as take daily medication coupled with regular psychotherapy and psychiatry visits. In short I do what I need to do to take care of my health issues. Bottom line, is I really enjoyed smoking tobacco, cigarettes and cigars. Now, I really enjoy vaping and all the flavors. It was my descision to start both of them. I'm sure the OP will make what ever desision he sees fit. Coming to ECF and researching has been a step in the right direction.
a lot of information here. and some people are really sharing their experience whether they smoked tobacco or not before starting to vape.
thanks alot, you guys are being very helpful for me to make whats better for me.
thanks alot, you guys are being very helpful for me to make whats better for me.
best of luck, Jason. I hope you'll let us know what you decide, and if that decision is to not vape, that you'll let us know if you found anything that helps!
DC, why is that where ever I go, I always seem to learn something significant from you? What's up with that? LOL!
No no no no no no no no no no no no no no! Nicotine is poison, if you're not allready trapped in the addiction, don't start! It would be a huge mistake that would be very very difficult to stop. Many of us vapers wish we were just free from the nicotine. We choose to vape to avoid cancer and stink.
Again, nonsmokers have a very hard time getting addicted to nicotine through vaping (and I believe through the gum and patch, too). Unless the OP is taking an MAOI at the exact same time as the nicotine, it's hard to get hooked on nicotine by itself.
The OP is much more likely to get addicted to the hand to mouth thing and blowing out vapor. I do find that I enjoy that a lot, whether I'm vaping 0mg or 16mg. It doesn't necessarily calm me and it's not something I *have* to do when stressed, but it's a far more pleasant alternative to biting my nails or chewing the skin off my lips.
The OP is much more likely to get addicted to the hand to mouth thing and blowing out vapor. I do find that I enjoy that a lot, whether I'm vaping 0mg or 16mg. It doesn't necessarily calm me and it's not something I *have* to do when stressed, but it's a far more pleasant alternative to biting my nails or chewing the skin off my lips.
I have been biting my nails off for 18 years. talking about addiction lol.
normal people will have no idea the pain and blood we nail biters have been through.
Wow... I was not expecting that level of vehemence against the idea when I clicked on this thread. I'm going to have to disagree with a lot of people. If a non smoker friend had asked me for a cigarette when I was smoking I'd have told them not to become another idiot who couldn't figure out a faster way to kill themselves. If one of them asked me to let them try my PV, I'd pass it right to them with out a second thought. I didn't take up vaping to quit smoking, I took up vaping because I love smoking but didn't really want to let it kill me. I could not in good faith recommend smoking to anyone, but I have no similar opinion about vaping. Nicotine helps me to focus, not have panic attacks, and stops me from compulsively counting to seven on the fingers of my left hand. All without the side effects of any of the prescription meds doctors prescribed for me over the years. Also, I enjoy vaping, I like the flavors, I enjoy the vapor cloud, I like the gadgetry. Maybe it will help you with your problem, maybe it won't. Maybe you'll like it, maybe you won't. I don't think god is going to start killing kittens if you try it though.
adrenaline is very addictive hense I do auto racing events and ride sportbike on the race track and back roads. the addiction is amazing makes you dont care about anything else.
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Just to echo the sentiments of others nicotine addiction is one of the hardest things to overcome. Vaping is not a fun hobby it is a crutch & the lesser of evils. While some of us have managed to kick analogs the bottom line is we are still addicted to nicotine. If we stopped vaping most of us would be back where we started in no time. Don't create a problem & expense for yourself that you do not have.
You say you have one problem already, ADD, why add nicotine addiction to that? There is no doubt that nicotine is addictive and is a bad choice that many of us would give anything not to have fallen into. As much as I hate pharmaceutical solutions, talk to your doctor, there has to be a better answer to your problems than getting hooked on this!
Okay, I didn't really want to come off saying that nicotine was 'the devil' per se, but nicotine is without a doubt not healthy in many ways. I have no idea what nicotine does or doesn't do to a non-smoker (besides constrict your blood vessels and possibly kill you) because I smoked for over 20 years. I do however know what it has done and continues to do to me. I am still a slave, maybe not to smoking anymore which is a super good thing, but nicotine is still my master. It is so degrading to be controlled in anyway, and smoking and nicotine has made me their ..... for half my life now! When I try to remember back to the times before I began to smoke, it is almost like trying to remember a dream you once had. Of course I can remember 20 years ago, but trying to remember how I once ever lived without smoking is a hard thing to visualize.
Will a non-smoker get addicted to nicotine from vaping? Hmm, well, you have people here on this forum telling you that it is hard for a non-smoker to become dependant upon nicotine, but why is that? Remember, a dependency will always attack a persons psyche before it attacks their body - where the mind goes, the body will follow. Need convincing? Okay here, ask yourself this very simple but important question...if you pick up vaping, and the nicotine does in fact help your condition, will you continue to do it? If not, no harm done, right? But wait, you mean to try an fool yourself and all of us here into thinking that you wouldn't continue using nicotine if in fact it does help? I mean, before you even posted here on this forum you were already curious as to whether or not nicotine could help you, so if you try it and find out that it does, the trap has been sprung in your mind and your innocence compromised. This conundrum my friend, is the prelude to addiction...
I am going to stick to my guns by saying this is just an all around bad idea. The good to bad ratio of nicotine use just doesn't seem to justify the risk for dependency. In essence, your contemplating the chance to become hooked on a substance that an estimated 47 million people in just the US alone wishes they could get away from. Your an adult who has the ability to make your own life decisions so do yourself a huge favor and make it a good one.
Will a non-smoker get addicted to nicotine from vaping? Hmm, well, you have people here on this forum telling you that it is hard for a non-smoker to become dependant upon nicotine, but why is that? Remember, a dependency will always attack a persons psyche before it attacks their body - where the mind goes, the body will follow. Need convincing? Okay here, ask yourself this very simple but important question...if you pick up vaping, and the nicotine does in fact help your condition, will you continue to do it? If not, no harm done, right? But wait, you mean to try an fool yourself and all of us here into thinking that you wouldn't continue using nicotine if in fact it does help? I mean, before you even posted here on this forum you were already curious as to whether or not nicotine could help you, so if you try it and find out that it does, the trap has been sprung in your mind and your innocence compromised. This conundrum my friend, is the prelude to addiction...
I am going to stick to my guns by saying this is just an all around bad idea. The good to bad ratio of nicotine use just doesn't seem to justify the risk for dependency. In essence, your contemplating the chance to become hooked on a substance that an estimated 47 million people in just the US alone wishes they could get away from. Your an adult who has the ability to make your own life decisions so do yourself a huge favor and make it a good one.
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