Neversmoked helping my Dad

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srober76

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My dad is 66 years old and has been a heavy smoker all his life. His health is not good and its mainly from smoking. He is interested in trying some type of electric cigarette. I dont want to run to the nearest gas station or retail store and buy some garbage of a electric cigarette that he will not like and give up entirely on the idea. I have been overwhelmed by the reviews online and have ....trust issues with most review sites. He is only going to be interested in a tobacco flavored cigarette. Looking for something simple for him to use with as close to a tobacco flavor I can find for him to try out. I guess the "vapor" smoke amount must be important too?

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What kind of budget are you looking at? You can get a really great vape setup fairly cheap nowadays, but getting him something higher-end may make him more likely to stick with it through the rough parts.

As far as tobacco flavors go, personally I think Johnson Creek's tobacco vapes are the best I've tried. The thing is you can't really get the same flavor of a cigarette out of a vape; a lot of what you taste in a cigarette is the direct result of the combustion/smoke which doesn't even happen in a vaporizer. They're better at creating pipe-tobacco flavors than cigarette tobaccos in my experience. I've also heard good things about some of the tobacco flavors from Halo, like Torque 56, but I haven't tried them yet.
 

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Hi there I am on here for my parents also. I ordered some samples in two different nicotine strengths six juices in total. My mom is like your dad in that she will be hard pressed to switch at first because of the taste. I read that some ry4 flavors are popular with others who had a hard time letting go of the analog flavor but as we all know taste is subjective and sometimes the mind is unwilling to change. Good luck, I hope things work out for the best.
 

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From reading your post it sounds like you are just starting the learning process. Before I ordered my first kit in February I spent about a month doing nothing but researching and watching videos on youtube.

In the end, I ended up buying this kGo kit: KGO kit1100mAh by SLB

This kit does not use the pre-filled cartomizers like the Blue or the nJoy kits, nor like the kits they carry at Wal-Mart (Fin and Mistic). The kit comes with battery charger. Two unregulated batteries (Unregulated batteries come off the charger at a higher voltage and the voltage drops slowly as the battery drains, where a regulated battery, like an eGo battery maintain the same voltage until it needs recharged), and two CE4 style clearomizers. It does not come with pre-filled cartridges. For these types of kits you actually need to buy the ejuice separately to fill the clearomizers.

The kit is $44.00 + the cost of e-juice + shipping, but you can get 5% off your purchase by using the code: 5% off (this code still worked about 3 weeks ago when I made my last purchase from them).

If you are looking to get in with a low cost and a solid kit, that one will work. Mine is still going strong after three months of use and my wife is entering her second month with hers.

The best prices I've seen on juice comes from Mt Baker Vapor - Electronic Cigarettes, USA made E Juice, and Accessories I will say though, that I have no experience whatsoever with tobacco flavored juices. Neither my wife, nor I, had any desire to use tobacco flavors. Some juice vendors offer sample packs, or you can buy small (5ml) bottles to sample them.

There is a TON of delivery systems out there and the trick will be finding one he likes. I personally don't care for the CE4 style clearos. They run $4-$5 per and I've only been able to get 1 - 2 weeks out of one at most and that was doing all the maintenance I could. Right now I'm almost exclusively using Boge low resistance cartomizers (atomized cartridge). It has a polyfill on the inside that holds the juice. These things run about 1.50 or so each but, with a clearer e-juice I can get 2-4 weeks out of one. There is a slight learning curve with filling them though with juices with a higher VG ratio.

Which brings up another point. E-Juice is usually a mixture of Propylene Glycol (PG), Vegetable Glycerin (VG), Flavorings, and Nicotine suspended in either PG or VG. PG is thinner and provides some throat hit that smokers are accustomed to and carries flavor better. VG provides more vapor. Higher nicotine juices will also come with more throat hit. My wife and I smoked light cigarettes and 12mg juice was fine for both of us. Juices that are very high in VG are more difficult to get to soak into the polyfill in cartomizers (a lesson I learned the hard way) whereas 100% PG juices soak right in.

I've tried 3 of the brand of automatic e-cigs you buy in gas stations and big box stores (Blu, Mistic, Fin) and for me, all of them were inferior to the kGo Kit I bought. Ideally you may want to try to a vape shop near you and take your dad with you if you can. Usually you can sample juice flavors, etc, but always be wary of them trying to upsell you on things you may not need yet.

I smoked for 20 years and my wife for 41 years. We were both able to stop smoking completely the day our starter level e-cig kits arrived in the mail. Whatever you do, don't get overwhelmed. This is a great place for information from actual users of the equipment, and filled with very patient and very knowledgeable people.
 

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Hi, I'm 62 and smoked most of my life. I also have asthma. I use a provari and find that taking in the vape and blowing directly out the nose..(takes practice) is a great way to get effects of smoking...I find better than inhaling. It also tells the brain after a while that 'into the lungs' is something to avoid. His lungs may need a break from everything. It may sound ridiculous, but with a week or so, it starts working. What's a week after 66 years.
 
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The link above to the beginners guide is a good one. That is the path I eventually went after trying and failing with one of those disposable types. I would also add that it's important to keep at it even if the person isn't initially satisfied after trying things out. You can tailor you experience in an endless amount of ways, and while overwhelming, it allows ALL types of smokers a viable chance at succeeding.
 

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There's a lot to learn but I can tell you my experience and suggestions. The choices I made were based off a lot of research and suggestions on this forum. I wanted to get the most no-nonsense easy to use setup possible. I recently got both my parents to switch to ecigs with the same setup. I have also had three friends buy the same thing and quit smoking once they tried mine out. I smoked for 17 years and have been completely smoke free for 7+ weeks with no desire to return to cigarettes. They actually repulse me now. Ok, on with the info.

First Pick up a couple of disposables at the gas station. NJoy Kings are pretty good and you can select the strength or menthol. They are about $9. They don't last nearly as long as advertised, but this should give your dad an idea of what it is like. Read the guide recommended above, it is really helpful in understanding how ecigs work. There are lots of different sizes and styles of ecigs, but the most common type for new vapers is the mini style aka cigalike. I believe this kind of ecig is an important and sometimes necessary device for quitting smoking. It reproduces the smoking experience in a way other devices can't.

For hardware, I highly recommend the Joyetech eRoll also called an eMini. It's the same size and shape as a cigarette and is super easy to use. It's also the only ecig i have found that I can dangle out of my mouth when needing both hands, because it's so much lighter than everything else. The starter kit comes with two full ecigs (minus one collar piece which you can pick up for a couple of bucks) and a long lasting portable charger with a charging cable and plug. The charger is key here because you can charge the ecig without taking it apart (no other cigalike does that) which makes it really convenient. The charger also looks like an iphone. I sometimes get them confused in my pocket. LOL! With the two ecigs you can charge one while using the other. This ecig is small but packs some real power. On YouTube search for "pbusardo emini" for a detailed review of what it's like and how it is assembled.

I suggest getting one from rockymountainvapor.com and using the coupon code 20rocky (20% off entire order) to drop the price to $48. This is a really good price for the setup. Rocky mountain also throws in the spare collar you will need free of charge. Get an extra pack of clear cartridges. They are easier to see the juice in compared to the black ones. Get a 5 pack of spare atomizers too while you are there. This will last your dad months. I have had mine for eight weeks and haven't had to toss a single part yet. I can take this with me, along wih a few cartridges filled and capped with the included caps, and it lasts all day no problem.

Next is eliqiid or ejuice. To me this is actually more important than the delivery device. The cheaper vendors just didn't do it for me personally when looking for tobacco flavors. I have found some really good tobacco flavors that aren't sweet (sweet is a common quality of ejuice) at GoodEJuice.com. The house brewed line is made from naturally extracted tobacco which is as close to the real thing as I have found. Patriot is my favorite but I heard wrangler light is really good too. I have heard their Bull Durham in the lab made section is excellent as well but i haven't tried it. Their prices are respectable and on par with other vendors for 30ml. Their quality is above and beyond most i have tried. The owner Rick ships your order about 20 minutes after you place it. Awesome!

Have your dad pick out a couple of flavors. Decide on the strength of the nicotine. 24mg is high like Marlboro reds, 18 is medium, 12 is low like marl lights. I smoked lights but still went with 18mg to get me over the hump. Get two 30ml bottles. The liquids will actually develop better flavor as they age, so a little extra in your order could be a good thing. To give you an idea, most people use about 2 to 4 mls per day.

That's all I have for you. Happy hunting and best of luck to you and your dad. Feel free to message me if you have a question.


Oh, one more thing. Get a couple of blunt needle tips for the juice bottles (about a buck each). It makes refilling easy and clean.
 
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Since I'm new to vaping myself Ill leave it to the experts on what you should start with PV wise. But I will suggest that you use a vendor that does a sample pack of flavors. My first tobacco sample pack came from MyFreedomSmokes. The RY4 and US Light were pretty tasty to me but I quickly realized that tobacco flavors aren't for me. I haven't given up looking for a tobacco flavor that I really enjoy but for now the sweet flavors are really nice.
 

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If your dad is worried about having to refill clearomizers, he can use the prefilled cartomizers on some e-cigs, that way he can just screw in a new cartomizer and go. Maybe something like this: E-Cigarette Starter Kit G6 | Halo Cigs. Halo also sells the prefilled cartomizers, too. He can use the blank cartomizers if he wants to use e-liquid (it's not a difficult proces, but some people get turned off by the thought that it's more troublesome than it really is.) Please let us know if he has any questions. I also highly recommend getting him a few disposable e-cigs that he can grab if he feels frustrated with technology, during his learning curve.
 
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