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[evoxbeck]

I have been vaping for two years, yay went back to analogs a few times but I am stuck on quitting.. I have used the Blu Cigs and went to Halo Cigs, using the G6.. Bought three starter kits lol. Black, Lime green and Fuschia Pink and a red battery.. I love vaping since I can do it any and everywhere and it doesn't take time out of my day.. I was curious what the best Tank ecig is.. Company and such. I was looking into Volcanocigs tanks and lava tube.. I am a cartomizer pro and want to evolve to a more clean and consistent taste.. ANY help would be greatly appreciated and I thank any persons opinion.

Happy Memorial Day

 

[moishesmom]

Hello & welcome....I can't really recommend any since I've only used various Joyetech products, however, I've been very pleased with them. You'll get a zillion answers here - everyone has their favorite. Just want to wish you good luck.

 

[EGO-maniac]

Hello,

I am new to vaping but have also been through a few cartomizer kits, but have since switched to a Joye eGo C tank system and have been very pleased with it. Have you tried a dual coil low ohm cartomizer? You get a strong throat hit and alot of vapor with those. here is my current setup Joye Ego-C Starter Kit 650mah | Ovale Ego-C | eSmoker Online

 

[Stosh]

I've been vaping about as long as you, and I understand slipping back to analogs.
A Lime green and Fuschia Pink battery would drive me to it also....
(sorry couldn't resist)

Regarding tanks, there are many that like the Vision eGo Clearomizers, and they are
carried here in the 808 that would match your G6...Smokeless Image | Only The Best Electronic Cigarette | VOLT X2 Clearomizers - Accessories

You may want to consider a somewhat larger battery, with at least enough mah to vape
the entire carto without switching batteries....

 

[Nora Francis]

Hi evoxbeck

I have been vaping for almost 4 years. I was using the Fifty-one Duo. Loved it!!! Still use it. But I have added the ego to my vaping fun!!!!!! Absolutely LOVE it! Very, Very Versatile!!!!! Tanks , carto's, clearomizers, atty's. everything!!! Best bang for my buck!!! Madvape has great kits and ejuicemonkeys and great prices on single batts.

I have spent this weekend just searching e-cig stuff.

 

[sailorman]

There is not really a "tank e-cig". Tanks aren't good for mini-ecigs mostly because of the size and the way they're held in use.

If you want a Lavtube (I have one), they're great but Volcano is about the most expensive one you can find. Check Apolloecigs.com

The Volcano tanks are just rebranded Smoketech DCT tanks. You can find those anywhere for $9-12. If you get a Lavatube, be aware that the version 1, like Volcano and Apollo sell, do not work well with dual coil cartomizers. You will want a 3ohm cartomizer with a Lavatube. That will let you use the full range of voltages without being limited by the 2.5amp cutoff.

There are newer versions of the Lavatube but they don't look as cool. They have improvements, but some problems have been reported with them, so I wouldn't buy one until they sort it out.

If you want something that is a step up, you can take a look at the kGo or e-Power. These are not variable voltage, but they accept some very nice tanks, some of which are made specifically to look and work great with them.

Here are some kGo kits:
KGO

Here is an e-Power. It takes separate batteries, so it's not disposable when the battery wears out, like they all do.
Crystal Clear Vaping

 

[sailorman]

Hello,

I am new to vaping but have also been through a few cartomizer kits, but have since switched to a Joye eGo C tank system and have been very pleased with it. Have you tried a dual coil low ohm cartomizer? You get a strong throat hit and alot of vapor with those. here is my current setup Joye Ego-C Starter Kit 650mah | Ovale Ego-C | eSmoker Online

Sorry, but a dual coil is NOT a low ohm or low resistance.
A dual coil is two 3ohm coils wired in parallel. The total resistance is low, but you are vaping with two standard resistance cartomizers at the same time.

If you took both your egos and put a 3ohm SR carto on them. Then you vape them at the same time, that is exactly what you are doing with a dual coil 1.5ohm cartomizer.

If that was really low resistance 1.5ohm, with your 650mah 3.4V ego, you would be vaping with 7.7 watts.
With a Dual Coil 1.5ohm carto, you are really vaping with two coils, each using 3.85 watts.

If you like 3.85 watt vaping (most people prefer 6-10 watts) you'll like a dual coil twice as much.

I would suggest you get a 1.7ohm "Resurrector" carto. Then you'll know what throat hit and vapor is all about.

 

[evoxbeck]

I appreciate all of the responses. As sailorman said, in parallel the ohm would drop in half, in series the ohm would double. I am a car audio fanatic and build systems all the time so That was fun to read I want a lot of vapor, flavor of consistency.. I am looking into all of your posts, I just wanted to thank you guys for all the quick replies

 

[Warningsigns]

I've been having a good experience with GotVapes' Vivi Nova. The fact that it's easily rebuild-able and has a ~3ml tank has me sold. I've rebuilt two already, and takes less than 5 minutes once you're familiar with the procedure. They also sell replacement heads if you don't want to rebuild. Definitely worth checking out.

 

[SirCount]

I am not a huge fan of the "Tank Systems" i much prefer punching a carto and using a carto tank.....that said I recently tried and Ego C and the Vision V2.....really surprised with how much they have improved...especially considering how much i hated the Ego T. I have been using the Vision V2 for about a week now on my Ego Twist and love it. If you have a good priced battery that will accept all kinds of tank systems the Ego is a good way to go. Seems like a lot of stuff made is geared towards that battery.

 

[DaveP]

I've vaped my DCT LR dual coil carto tank on my eGo and like the flavor and vapor it produces. Provape is actually advertising a 1.5 ohm SINGLE coil DCT tank carto. I have their 3 ohm DCT cartos, but haven't used one yet. My first DCT carto tank came from Electronic Cigarettes & Accessories | Awesome Vapor and was advertised as a dual coil LR carto tank. I wonder if Provape's description is a misprint.

Dual coils on the 3.4v eGo with the DCT tank work fine for me. I get loads of vapor and the taste is clean ... no funny aftertaste. My take on the dual coil is twice the heat from two 3.4 ohm coils working at once. I liken it to dual 40 watt light bulbs instead of one 80 watt (I know there are no 80 watt bulbs). The lumen output would be similar and the wattage draw would be equal. Watts are heat produced from a given voltage against a given resistance, so watts are watts. Design can enter in, but it's still two coils, each producing a lower wattage that atomizes more juice than just one. Much of that depends on the ability of the battery to produce the current necessary.

 

[sailorman]

I've vaped my DCT LR dual coil carto tank on my eGo and like the flavor and vapor it produces. Provape is actually advertising a 1.5 ohm SINGLE coil DCT tank carto. I have their 3 ohm DCT cartos, but haven't used one yet. My first DCT carto tank came from Electronic Cigarettes & Accessories | Awesome Vapor and was advertised as a dual coil LR carto tank. I wonder if Provape's description is a misprint.

Dual coils on the 3.4v eGo with the DCT tank work fine for me. I get loads of vapor and the taste is clean ... no funny aftertaste. My take on the dual coil is twice the heat from two 3.4 ohm coils working at once. I liken it to dual 40 watt light bulbs instead of one 80 watt (I know there are no 80 watt bulbs). The lumen output would be similar and the wattage draw would be equal. Watts are heat produced from a given voltage against a given resistance, so watts are watts. Design can enter in, but it's still two coils, each producing a lower wattage that atomizes more juice than just one. Much of that depends on the ability of the battery to produce the current necessary.

Bad analogy. The lumen outputs of two bulbs complement each other. It doesn't work that way with coils. Reminds me of the old joke about the guy who wanted to drill an 8" hole but he only had a 4" drill bit. "No problem", he said. "I'll drill it twice."

I'll agree that it's vaporizing twice as much juice. But it's producing twice as much Cold fog. If you like 3.85 watt vapor, you'll be happy. You're getting twice as much of it.

A better analogy would be trying to grill steaks. You can grill one on a grill at 450 degrees, or you could grille two of them on separate 225 degree grills. You're using the same amount of heat. You're theoretically burning the same caloric value in heat. You might even be generating twice as much smoke. But they aren't cumulative the way light bulbs are. If you like your steak bloody rare, you'll like the results. Twice as much raw steak.

I'd rather get splashed twice by 106 degree water than once by 212 degree water.

Try it on your stove. Get a big kettle that covers two burners. Turn the temperature up on both burners to 106 degrees and see how long it takes you to boil water.

If, by using two coils, you were boosting the total inner temperature of the carto to the point that a mere 3.85 watts would kick the inside of the carto into some kind of mini furnace, I could see how it might work. But nothing so sophisticated is happening. The juice isn't being maintained at a critical temperature that needs a mere 4 watts to push it over the edge into vapor that would be produced by the temperature of a 2 ohm coil.

Provape can have a 1.5ohm single coil DCT carto. That's actually a good idea. Take a 1.5ohm SC carto and punch a hole in it. Even better would be to use a 1.7ohm single coil resurrector carto in a tank. Just because the name is DCT doesn't mean it's somehow optimized to use dual coil cartos. OTOH, if they came out with a 0.85ohm DC carto, I'd be all over it.

 

[evoxbeck]

Regarding tanks, there are many that like the Vision eGo Clearomizers, and they are
carried here in the 808 that would match your G6...Smokeless Image | Only The Best Electronic Cigarette | VOLT X2 Clearomizers - Accessories

So your sure the clearomizer will work with the G6 battery? If so you'll save me a fortune because I only have 6 G6 batteries XD

 

[sailorman]

The smokelessimage website says that the clearomizer is for the X2 battery only. The X2, G6 and the small volt batteries all have the same type connector, but I'd check with smokeless image before I used the clearomizer on a little battery. There is a reason they say it's only for the X2 battery and the connector type isn't the reason. I suspect it has to do with that rating of the battery. Or it could be that the clearo has a collar that fits on the X2.

 

[DaveP]

Sailorman said: If, by using two coils, you were boosting the total inner temperature of the carto to the point that a mere 3.85 watts would kick the inside of the carto into some kind of mini furnace, I could see how it might work. But nothing so sophisticated is happening. The juice isn't being maintained at a critical temperature that needs a mere 4 watts to push it over the edge into vapor that would be produced by the temperature of a 2 ohm coil.

It's probably not exactly the same vape using a dual coil in a tank, but I just walked over and vape the DCT DC tank on the eGo and it has a warm vape. It's not a hot vape, but it's not a cold vape either. It's noticeably warmer than 4.0v on a 3 ohm, which I'm currently vaping on my Provari, which is about 5.3 watts. At that level, I get about the same exhale quantity as I did with a cigarette. If you do that calculations on a 3.2 ohm coil and double it, you get 7.3 watts, which is a pretty good vape level.

In you grill analogy, the two burners side by side are additive in one spot that is concentrated on the steak. True the temperature of two cooler bulbs would be less than the temperature of one large bulb. I guess the choice is in the vaper's mind. I consider the dual coil to be a warm vape at 3.4v and a really warm vape at 3.7v. I wouldn't want it any warmer. We have people who report vaping 2 ohm cartos at 6v. That would be terrible and possibly damaging to the hardware and to the lungs to me. I'd be wondering how much acrolein I was ingesting.

Lots of vapors talk about how variable voltage ecigs should manage and regulate watts, not voltage. I think they have a point.

 

[Ratchet]

If you get a Lavatube, get a Phiniac tank from Phiniac Rugged Pyrex Glass Tanks. They are beautiful and pyrex glass that will not crack when using certain cinnamon or fruit flavors. I have managed to cloud up my LT Tank by using ectoplasm liquid in it. It didn't outright crack it but it is now permanently cloudy with what appears to be small cracks in the tank. Doesn't leak and still works but it's ugly now. I have 4 phiniac tanks, zero problems and no cracking. I love my 2 Lavatubes, both from volcano. 1 year warranty!

As far as cartos, I'm using mostly the tank cartos from myfreedomsmokes. The 2.5 single coil tank cartomizers come with 2 pre-punched holes and work great! I'd post the link but I'm typing on my phone right now.

 

[elfstone]

This may seem too much here, but since you are a veteran vaper, evoxbeck, I think it's appropriate.

More and more people are starting to discover the "Genesis-style" atomizers. This will take a little bit of learning and some expenses - it's like starting over. You might want to look into that - Scott / igetcha69 has several great reviews / tutorials on these devices on YouTube. The thing is while some clearomizers have a better flavor than cartomizers, they are still cheap, disposable devices. They are still somewhat fiddly, and although the new Vivi Nova is somewhat rebuildable it does come with its set of issues...

I cannot tell you the Geneses are the way to go - I'm just throwing a suggestion out there. My take on it is that they are cheaper in the long run, safe from any sort of sales ban / shortages and many vapers agree that they provide unmatched flavor and vapor in a class of their own.

The only downside is the low availability. These are usually made in small batches and sold through forum co-ops, pre-order lists or "sale nights"; then units do pop up on the classified sections at an enormous mark-up (capitalism at its best, I'm afraid)... You will need another device to run such an atomizer (any APV, really, including the LavaTube), and there are also "hybrids" - APVs that have a Genesis atomizer built in. For most part, you can forget about variable voltage or other calculations as you would build your coil every time to your specs and adjust it to vape well for you.

Look into it if you are looking for a way to "evolve" from cartomizers of all sorts. Its not as simple as just ordering something off a site for you current e-cig, but it may be worth it. Ask away if you have any questions...

 

[Fallorc]

If you want to try something with a cleaner taste and on the cheap, you can't go wrong with a Ego-C 1000mah and a CE4 clearomizer. Very good taste and great vapor output. The whole rig with a usb charger would run you around $20.00 or so.

 

[Stosh]

So your sure the clearomizer will work with the G6 battery? If so you'll save me a fortune because I only have 6 G6 batteries XD

as saliorman says, double check with Smokeless Image to be sure, if they are both 808 connectors, and an appropriate resistance they should work even if they look a bit funny.....

If you check my signature, you can tell I'm all about function over form.....

 

[evoxbeck]

Hmmmm can anyone steer me towards a good starter kit. I have a nice $100 bill/check for finishing my windshield replacement bill and have roughly $100, I was thinking about trying the clearomizer with my G6 before my next weeks check but I also want to expand my vaping from just a 280mah battery I wish I knew this all prior my last 150$ purchase back in April XD been well with that purchase and about out of my supply so trying to get get before I am out

Is Joy Ego the ego your all talking about?