New and Confused!

[eyeslikeapisces]

Hello, I stopped smoking 2 weeks and so far, I am ok but I am looking into this as a solution as well. But, even after viewing some videos and some reading I am still confused. (I live in north carolina where you can still get a pack for like 4 dollars so it's hard)

I am an English major so all this atomizer, cartridge talk is foreign language to me lol

I am looking to purchase one of the kits where the cigarette looks like...a cigarette, so can someone tell me or point me to a newbies overview?

my basic questions are probably redundant but, where to buy, cheapest and what do I have to do to keep it working?

 

[cosican]

hey we have a whole bunch of us North Carolinians right around the corner from you??maybe
and we can try to help??
to put this all in a post can sometimes be difficult to understand

I am sure one of us NC people would love to hook up ( no not that way)
and show you what it is all about

I have met a few of us NC vapors and am meeting another one today,
TO PICK UP A NEW TOY FOR ME!~!! CANNOT WAIT

AND ALL OF US ARE GREAT PEOPLE

 

[Ramblin]

Save yourself much time perusing the forum and sit down and watch this video.

Terms, acronyms all explained. http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/new-members-forum/8952-new-updated-comprehensive-intro-vaping.html

 

[wv2win]

In general, the more a PV (personal vaporizer) looks like a analog (cigarette) the worse the performance. Plus if you want to stop smoking, why do you want to "look" like you are still smoking and continue to take crap from people? A 901 is probably your best "first" PV. Here is information I have given other new members and some find it helpful.

I read this forum and looked at older forum threads for two weeks before I purchased my first electronic vaporizer.

My first electronic vaporizer was a blue DSE901 from Phil at e-Smokey Treats - Electronic Cigarette's, The healthy alternative to traditional tobacco cigarette's. Phil is a little more expensive than some suppliers but he provides a 3 month warranty instead of 14 days, gives you two atomizers instead of just one and provides a phone number where you can call him which most suppliers do not. Like all suppliers, the kit comes with two batteries and a charger. The battery will last about 2-3 hours before needing recharged although some users report getting 4-5 hours but that has not been my experience. His 901 starter kit is $69.95 where some other suppliers will sell them for $49.95 or $59.95 but without the extra’s that Phil provides. I would consider the DSE901 a good first purchase and it is about the size of a regular 100 cigarette. (If you purchase from Phil at e-smokey-treats.com, when it asks for a coupon code, use esmoking101 and you should get 10% off.)

Many users like the classic penstyle 801 model which has a larger atomizer and cart and a typical battery charge life of about 4-5 hours. The draw is lighter, more like a straw due to having 4 holes in the atomizer and the bigger cart. The 801 is larger and looks more like a big pen instead of regular cigarette. You can also purchase a USB pass-through for both the 901 and 801, which allows you to plug into a usb port on your computer and not have to worry about changing batteries. You can then purchase a portable battery pack for the usb pass-through such as this one from Kennsington (Kensington - Portable Power Pack for Select Mobile Devices - Black - K38021) and make your usb power portable. Make sure the power pack is at least 1000mAh power output.

Most users want an e-vap to provide the “throat hit” that is most like a real cigarette (analog as we call them) as well as long battery life. IMO, the only way to get that is to purchase a manual e-vape that allows you to push a button and heat up the atomizer more before you inhale. The one that does that the best is the screwdriver (SD) from trog at: - The ScrewDriver - An electronic cigarette that simply works. It is more expensive but it just can’t be beat for long battery life and throat hit. And my experience with trog has been outstanding. I have emailed him many times with questions and he almost always responds any where from 10 minutes to an hour or so.

IMO, the only way you will enjoy vaping is if you buy e-liquid or e-juice to refill your carts instead of use the prefilled cartridges that come with the starter kits. Plus it is way more cost effective. My favorite liquid to date is the riskee and cola flavors from Puresmoker: PureSmoker.com - Your #1 Source For PV's, Parts, & Accessories!. My recommendation is to get a little higher nicotine (nic) strength because you can always dilute it with USP glycerin that you can get at a drug store for $5 or $6. I use 24mg nic strength. The highest is 36mg and there is also 18, 11, 6 and 0. I also thought I would like the tobacco flavors the best, but in most cases, IMO, they don’t taste that similar to real tobacco. I do know that some forum members love e-smokey treats tobacco flavor, however.

Hope this helps and good luck.

PS: the smallest bottle of liquid is 10ml and usually costs $9.99. In general (everyone is different) you should get any where from 5-14 days out of that size bottle. And if you purchase from e-smokey treats, he usually does 10 cartridges instead of 5 which would give you another 5-10 days of vaping. In addition, you can wash out the fabric in the pre-filled cartridges and reuse them. The fabric is simply polyester batting which you can get enough for a year's worth for about $5 from Wal-Mart.
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Here is a little more information. This is a link that provides information on most models of electronic vaporizers:

E-Cigarette Models

 

[Vapor Pete]

Hello, I stopped smoking 2 weeks and so far, I am ok but I am looking into this as a solution as well. But, even after viewing some videos and some reading I am still confused. (I live in north carolina where you can still get a pack for like 4 dollars so it's hard)

I am an English major so all this atomizer, cartridge talk is foreign language to me lol

I am looking to purchase one of the kits where the cigarette looks like...a cigarette, so can someone tell me or point me to a newbies overview?

my basic questions are probably redundant but, where to buy, cheapest and what do I have to do to keep it working?

WOW..... thats one HELL of a fish hook someone got on ya!
My best,
-VP

 

[Vapor Pete]

WV,
I take direct offense to your first paragraph. It is not true that the more it looks like a cigarette, the worse it is. Thats a load of crap, as well as completely user subjective. I've sat here reading threads about peoples failing atomizers on their highley regarded 901's while I happily vape on the 2 piece Vapor King. So thats my first gripe about your advice to a new user.
Secondly, an e-cig that closely resembles an anolog is the EXACT reason I got my first LTv9. Why would I want an e-cig that looks Im smoking? Not so I can take crap from other poeple. I couldnt care LESS what others think. I personally needed to have something closely resemble an actual cigarette in order for it to work for me, and so did my wife, and so does my neighbor, as well as two co-wokers....and maybe this new user posing the questions above desires the same thing?
Sorry I did not read the rest of your post, as I got fired up after that 1st paragraph.
My best,
-VP

 

[wv2win]

WV,
I take direct offense to your first paragraph. It is not true that the more it looks like a cigarette, the worse it is. Thats a load of crap, as well as completely user subjective. I've sat here reading threads about peoples failing atomizers on their highley regarded 901's while I happily vape on the 2 piece Vapor King. So thats my first gripe about your advice to a new user.
Secondly, an e-cig that closely resembles an anolog is the EXACT reason I got my first LTv9. Why would I want an e-cig that looks Im smoking? Not so I can take crap from other poeple. I couldnt care LESS what others think. I personally needed to have something closely resemble an actual cigarette in order for it to work for me, and so did my wife, and so does my neighbor, as well as two co-wokers....and maybe this new user posing the questions above desires the same thing?
Sorry I did not read the rest of your post, as I got fired up after that 1st paragraph.
My best,
-VP

Why would take offense at advice that is not directed at you? Second, if vaping is to gain widespread acceptance, the perception that it is just another form of smoking needs to be changed, IMO.

The advice on the best performing PV's is based on two things: My own experience and the experience of hundreds of users on this forum who have been doing this longer than you or me. All the trouble with batteries, stuck switches, poor throat hit and poor vapor has been proven to be due to the undersized batteries and the auto switch. I would rather a new user not get so frustrated that they give up and go back to analogs.

 

[cosican]

Gentlemen while the two of you battle this out, cos you are both correct in your directions I think it would be a GREAT thing if someone, could sit down with many of the products and taste and see for themselves what is out there, Touch and feel and vape and ask questions

So my offer still stands, if you would like to meet a member of this forum or even a few, we would be thrilled and priveldged to show you many of the better items out there

Between a few of us here in NC we probably own 80% of the good cigs on the market

please let us know

 

[skex]

Ok I know everyone likes to recomend the DSE901s personally I say go straight to a penstyle the people I know who have gotten some form of mini or another have generally been disapointed with their performance.

Next get 2 kits to start with this will provide you with enough spares to get started if he has stock I suggest PureSmoker since his pricing is good and service excellent. I'd steer clear of higher end products like the screw driver or the Janty Kissbox until you've established whether or not you will want to keep this up.

Be sure to order liquid in as has been mentioned it's much much cheaper and easier IMO to just top off/refil cartridges than it is to keep buying replacements as an additional advantage it's also more environmentally sound since you're not generating a bunch of plastic bits to go to the land fills.

I suggest getting a few levels of power going up to what ever level of smokes you currently endulge in (Aka lights are around 11mg) I'd also suggest getting some lower powered stuff in case you really enjoy vaping it's pretty easy to get carried away and vaping lacks many of the physical queues and controls that cigarettes have to force one to slow down.

You will want to invest in a USB pass-through to save your batteries. But you may want too wait on that until you've established whether or not you want to keep doing this.

Vaping isn't for everyone many smokers don't find it completely satisfyiing. I'm convinced that much of the addiction comes from other substances in cigarettes beyond just the nicotine in fact based on personal experience and the thread in the health section on side effects I think that much of the withdrawal is due to dependencies on other chemicals in a cigarette.

A few caviats. we don't know much about the long term health effects of Vaping. Many of us believe that this is probably healthier than cigarette smoking based on some common sense assumptions that fewer chemicals suggests fewer risks. But we do know that Nicotine causes health problems in it's own right so while this may be a healthier alternative to cigarettes its not necessarily healthy.

We are fairly certain that this is "safe" for a short term. This product is going on 5 years old and while it has only recentlyl caught on in the United States it's been fairly accepted in China and other countries for a number of years and the absence of any health issues in early addopting nations suggests that the product is reasaonably "safe"

All that being said just common sense says it's probably safer than smoking burned tobacco.

Assuming you do get into this be prepared to do a little planning ahead for maintinence. Unlike a cigarette you won't be able to pop down to the corner store to restock should you run out of liquid or your battery or atomizer dies so once you establish whether this is something for you or not, You will want to start stocking up sufficient spares to carry you until another order can be made and arrive. Additionally due to the current regulator mess you'll need to maintain multiple sources for parts and liquids in case one vendor is out of stock when you need it.

Now personally I like vaping more than smoking. The vapor tastes much better than smoke and comes in a variety of flavors to suit multiple tastes and one can even create your own flavors if you are interested in that sort of thing.

Good luck and welcome to the forum.

 

[yvilla]

WV,
I take direct offense to your first paragraph. It is not true that the more it looks like a cigarette, the worse it is.
-VP

Vapor Pete, in reality, what WV said is backed up by innumerable posts on this forum, as well as the venerable device preferences poll that's been around forever.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...views/4271-device-preferences-poll-redux.html

It is pretty well documented that the super-minis are the least favored devices out there.

It's really a matter of simple common sense as to why. The smaller the battery and the smaller the cartridge, the quicker you will need to recharge and refill.

 

[Ann Onymous]

PS: the smallest bottle of liquid is 10ml and usually costs $9.99. In general (everyone is different) you should get any where from 5-14 days out of that size bottle. And if you purchase from e-smokey treats, he usually does 10 cartridges instead of 5 which would give you another 5-10 days of vaping. In addition, you can wash out the fabric in the pre-filled cartridges and reuse them. The fabric is simply polyester batting which you can get enough for a year's worth for about $5 from Wal-Mart.
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Here is a little more information. This is a link that provides information on most models of electronic vaporizers:

E-Cigarette Models

You can get 15ml liquid from Phil for 9.99. (LOVE THAT!!)

 

[hma95]

I LOVE Phil (smokeytreats!), but I'm sorry to report that he changed his 10 carts to 5. He no longer gives you the 5 different flavored carts. Here is what the website says:

We No Longer Include the 5 Assorted Flavor Pack Of Cartridges With Each Kit

 

[Vapor Pete]

Why would take offense at advice that is not directed at you? Second, if vaping is to gain widespread acceptance, the perception that it is just another form of smoking needs to be changed, IMO.

The advice on the best performing PV's is based on two things: My own experience and the experience of hundreds of users on this forum who have been doing this longer than you or me. All the trouble with batteries, stuck switches, poor throat hit and poor vapor has been proven to be due to the undersized batteries and the auto switch. I would rather a new user not get so frustrated that they give up and go back to analogs.

I apologize. Saying "direct offense" was a bit unwarrented as you were not directing it at me. However, as I said, a product that mimics a cigarette is what I like about them and couldnt care less about what others think about it. I personally do not feel like walking around with an over sized pen in my mouth. Nor do I wish to be pulled over by the police because I have trogs Screwdriver up to my lips. I want to feel like I am smoking a cigarette. Again, I sit here with my two piece, and read the threads about stuff going wrong with atomizers, pass thru's, batteries and a plethora of other issues. Throat hit, battery performance, and switch issues have been delt with by the Vapor king, and reviewers have stated time and again that the LTv9 produces some of the best vapor yet. Things will break no matter what any of us get.
And as to your comment that it is perceived as just another form of smoking, well it is... its another choice for smokers. I agree to change the name in the public to PV's... but not the look, for reasons I stated above.
Sorry to have ruffled any feathers. Really! I am sorry. I will say my peace on this with the fact that I hope you will agree, no matter what, the whole thing is user subjective? Friends?
My best,
-VP

 

[Elendil]

Get an SD........the only way to go........

 

[Vapor Pete]

Vapor Pete, in reality, what WV said is backed up by innumerable posts on this forum, as well as the venerable device preferences poll that's been around forever.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...views/4271-device-preferences-poll-redux.html

It is pretty well documented that the super-minis are the least favored devices out there.

It's really a matter of simple common sense as to why. The smaller the battery and the smaller the cartridge, the quicker you will need to recharge and refill.

Again,
You too are being user subjective. Which is attested to by the fact that you are a non-affiliated fangirl of Trogs Screwdiver. I have had two super minis, one kit was no good after 3 days, the other is going strong, so 50/50. We are all going to recommend what we have found to work for us. But the bottom line is that the original poster of this thread specifically asked for advice on an e-cig that looked like a cigarette, then everybody gives her 10 paragraph disertations on pen-styles and screw drivers, completely ignoring what she was asking for.
For WV to ask why she wants to quit smoking just to use an e-cig that resembles a cigarette is a moot point, and none of his business, thats what she wants. Its what I wanted, and everyone I have shown these to wants. So with all do respect, I could care less about ECF opinion polls. Being that Mini's are fairly new, (but slowly getting better), the polls are going to reflect the older "stand by" styles you are talking about. Do the original poster justice and answere her questions, thats all Im saying. I am not trying to piss anyone off, if she had asked about 3 or 4 piece penstyles, or e-cigs that look like a some kind of new marijuanna smoking contraption ...ok. But thats not what she asked about. Thanks for reading.
My best,
-VP

 

[Kool-less Ken]

Eyes, in my opinion you should buy a single kit and a small bottle of liquid to find out if this will work out for you.

My experience is with only the 401 series and it has been very positive. It is very cigarette-like in appearance (3 3/4" long with the short battery, 4 1/4" with the long) and feel. Highly portable and has gotten many good reviews.

It has worked well enough for me where it is all I use and I have since been buying parts from puresmoker and intellicig to augment my supply.

Like I said, that is my opinion from my experience. There are other mini ecigs out there. I definitely would not invest too much money until you have an idea if vaping is a good fit for you.

Good luck!