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I am new to the whole vaping thing, but have begun to enjoy the crap out of it. I have been a smoker for like 10 years, and battle back in forth quitting, and starting and quitting and starting. Recently a co-worker told me about MadVapes and said I should order something and try it. I did, but I ordered the starter kit and the clearomizer crapped out in a week. I ordered two more and they crapped out as well. My buddy tells me maybe I use it to much, because honestly, i used to smoke a pack a day. I have completely cut out cigarettes from my life, and now am solely relying on vaping to fix my nicotine fits. I am getting frustrated because well i ordered the 36 mg grapple flavor and love it, and yes i know the mg are high, but i need the throat hit. I don't know if i am burning out my clearomizers cause after about a week, the burnt taste comes, i hate it with a passion. I have read through these forums and will be placing an order through mount baker vapor and now i am lost as to what product will last me the longest, give me the best throat hit, and keep me from going crazy. I am stuck out here on the island of guam too so there isn't much out here for vaping...any advice is greatly appreciated. thanks
 

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I am new to the whole vaping thing, but have begun to enjoy the crap out of it. I have been a smoker for like 10 years, and battle back in forth quitting, and starting and quitting and starting. Recently a co-worker told me about MadVapes and said I should order something and try it. I did, but I ordered the starter kit and the clearomizer crapped out in a week. I ordered two more and they crapped out as well. My buddy tells me maybe I use it to much, because honestly, i used to smoke a pack a day. I have completely cut out cigarettes from my life, and now am solely relying on vaping to fix my nicotine fits. I am getting frustrated because well i ordered the 36 mg grapple flavor and love it, and yes i know the mg are high, but i need the throat hit. I don't know if i am burning out my clearomizers cause after about a week, the burnt taste comes, i hate it with a passion. I have read through these forums and will be placing an order through mount baker vapor and now i am lost as to what product will last me the longest, give me the best throat hit, and keep me from going crazy. I am stuck out here on the island of guam too so there isn't much out here for vaping...any advice is greatly appreciated. thanks

Yes, it's normal to get 1 to 2 weeks out of a coil. As you get more experience and your taste buds recover you will be able to avoid burning the coil so much. How quickly the coil gunks up can depend on the e-liquid you are using also. Generally darker and sweeter e-liquids will tend to gunk up the coil faster.

You didn't say which starter kit you got and I'm having trouble negotiating the Madvapes site at the moment. The most useful clearomisers are the rebuildable ones, where the base unscrews and you can replace the head. That is the bit with the wicks, and has the coil inside. You might just need to order a supply of heads if you got the rebuildable CE4 clearomisers. There's also a disposable version of the CE4 in which the base does not unscrew.

If you got the Ego battery starter kit you might want to consider some Evods as an alternative to the CE4. They are a bottom coil clearomiser and work very well indeed. These also have replacable heads.

Once the head gunks up and you have swapped it out, it is generally possible to clean the coil by washing it and dry burning it. There's plenty of how-to videos on YouTube and plenty of information on these forums to help you out with this side of things if you don't consider the heads to be cheap enough to use as a once-only deal. (shipping is normally the killer, and why many of us recondition the heads and even rebuild them from scratch with wick and wire.
 

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.any advice is greatly appreciated. thanks

Further to my previous post, as I said I'm having trouble negotiating the MadVapes site. You might want to look at discount vapers as an alternative anyway. Here's a link to their Evods and replaceable heads for them:
Kanger eVod Clearomizers

If you got the "CE4" starter kit I think they are probably the disposable type, so the base won't screw off and they are not rebuildable. If you like this format and want to stick with it you might consider the the rebuildable CE5. Here's a link to the CE5 and heads on the discount vapers site:
CE5+ Rebuildable Clearomizers

Note that the heads come in different resistance. You should either stick with the resistance you are using now, research which might be the best resistance for you, or just buy a range up to and including 2.7 ohms. Different liquids work better with difference heat at the coil, and with a fixed voltage device like a standard ego changing the coil resistance is one way to achieve that.
 

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Thanks a ton, and sorry for the delay, and yes It was the Smok Tech eGo CE4 Starter Kit, so they are disposable. I will look into both of those sites, and am still debating which liquids to purchase from mount baker. From reading, more PG is a better throat hit, so I think I will be going for the 80/20. And have you guys heard any bad news about using the 36mg nicotine liquids? I told the guy today I used 36 and he jumped back like whoa, we only have 16mg, any increased risks with this mg , SERIOUS QUESTION. Am I mistaking a bigger throat hit with a higher mg of nicotine? or can I get a 16 with a good throat hit...I mean the point is to eventually quit using nicotine down the road completely right?

And the batteries throw me off a bit, I have seen people use the ones where you can adjust the power on them? Do most seasoned vapors use these batteries? Also, I charge mine once a day, and sometimes forget, its lasts me about 20 hours.
 

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Am I mistaking a bigger throat hit with a higher mg of nicotine? or can I get a 16 with a good throat hit...I mean the point is to eventually quit using nicotine down the road completely right?
A good throat hit does come from nicotine content yes, but the blend of juice and the right balance of voltage/wattage/coil resistance can provide a very satisfying vape as well. I used to smoke 2 packs of Camel straights or, when I could find them, Players Navy Cuts a day, and I'm happy with 18-24mg juice.

And the batteries throw me off a bit, I have seen people use the ones where you can adjust the power on them?
This is why I use VV and VV-VW mods - in particular, the Innokin iTaste VV-VW 3.0, iTaste SVD and MPV (MPV is VV only - the new one coming out will be VV-VW). The high wattage mods have to be tried to be believed. I won't tell you what to buy... just look around, ask a few questions, do a bit of research, you'll find something to try. Might work for you, might not, but it will be a learning experience that directs you to your next one. I don't think anyone gets it right on the first (or second or third) try. What I use, or 5 other guys and gals use, may not work at all for you.

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Do most seasoned vapors use these batteries?
I don't believe there is a "what seasoned vapers use" - in particular. It's not like starting with a Volkswagen and ending with a Bentley... lots of seasoned folks are quite happy with their well tuned VW Passat and have no interest in that Bentley. Anything from eGos to cheap and mid priced VV-VWs to very expensive and exotic VVs and VWs... the variations are almost endless. You see their ads - Provari has made a business of excellent quality, customer service and satisfied customers. Are they the best? Maybe, but there are thousands that have tried them and move on to something else. I've got a bad Innokin habit right now... but I can guarantee that I'll move on to something else, eventually.

I'm fairly new to vaping, but as I approach it as both an alternative to cigs and a hobby, I've done a good amount of research... if you can afford it, don't limit yourself, try new things. Get a VV and/or VW mod - get a carto tank - try dripping. Some where in the vast world of vaping, you'll find your "sweet spot".

Sorry to be so wordy... I do rattle on at times. ;)

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Thanks a ton, and sorry for the delay, and yes It was the Smok Tech eGo CE4 Starter Kit, so they are disposable. I will look into both of those sites,

Same site, (discount vapers) but different devices.


and am still debating which liquids to purchase from mount baker. From reading, more PG is a better throat hit, so I think I will be going for the 80/20. And have you guys heard any bad news about using the 36mg nicotine liquids? I told the guy today I used 36 and he jumped back like whoa, we only have 16mg, any increased risks with this mg , SERIOUS QUESTION. Am I mistaking a bigger throat hit with a higher mg of nicotine? or can I get a 16 with a good throat hit...I mean the point is to eventually quit using nicotine down the road completely right?

Yes, that is pretty high. I wouldn't suggest you go that high unless you need it to stop the nicotine cravings. Some of us buy concentrate unflavoured nicotine at 36mg/ml and dilute it and add flavours (DIY). When you find a flavour that you enjoy and a device that works really well, most of us tend to over use it, especially in the early days. 36 mg/ml would have made me really sick really quickly at the start, and that's coming from a two ounce per week rollie habit. I started at 24 mg/ml briefly, kept feeling ill so dropped it to 18 mg/ml. After a month I dropped it further to 16mg/ml but then I discovered bottom coil devices, in particular the Protank. I had to drop it down to 12 mg/ml, and am still at that level. I'll probably drop it down further as soon as I feel I can handle it. Nicotine on it's own is not nearly as addictive as cigarettes.

You may go through withdrawals, even though you are vaping nicotine. There are ways to handle this, so come back later if it happens to you. If you have to chain vape to forget about cigarettes, you will make yourself sick at higher concentrations (but at least you forget about cigs for a while.)


And the batteries throw me off a bit, I have seen people use the ones where you can adjust the power on them? Do most seasoned vapors use these batteries?

Indeed we do, though there are many people who just stick with the fixed voltage devices. I didn't make any suggestions along those lines since you've just bought a starter kit, but discount vapers should have some VV twists or similar that won't break the bank, let me have a look...

Here you go, the Spinner is a bit easier to see the voltage scale and set the voltage. They are out of stock in the 1300 mAh battery in black but here's the chrome:
Vision Spinner Chrome 1300mah

You could also look at lower capacity twists or spinners. The higher the capacity, the longer the battery.


Also, I charge mine once a day, and sometimes forget, its lasts me about 20 hours.

That's fine. For technical reasons that I won't go into, the battery technology that we use is actually better kept topped up. I always put my twist on charge when I get home, and use the second one the next day. The battery will last longer if you don't actually run them to the cut-off flat point each and every time you use them. Basically, shallow discharge cycles are kinder for the batteries, deep discharge cycles stress the batteries and *will* shorten the life of the battery.
 

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I used 36 for the first week or two, then dropped to 24. After six months, I recently dropped to 18 and I can feel the difference, but I think I'll stay here a while. Wife already 12, and we quit on the same day. Good TH is a combination of slightly higher nic and higher PG to VG ratio. More PG, better TH. More VG, more Vapor, to a point.

You need to clean and replace your coils more frequently. This was the most frustrating thing I learned about vaping. Seems like they get you coming and going. Well, they do, and it's ok, if you want to be a happy vaper. I use a new coil twice a week, or a new carto twice a week. But I vape 10 mils a day, so YMMV. Good luck on your VapeQuest, hang in there, it does get better. Best to you!
 

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I have an adjustable battery, but only use it when I have a high resistance coil. Like your kit comes with a 2.4 Ohm. I like a 1.8 Ohm. Rather than just trash the coil, I bump the voltage up on the battery to compensate. But with the bigger battery, the e-cig doesn't fit in my shirt pocket. So when I'm out and about, I use the standard battery.

There's a company called Johnson's Creek. I didn't like their flavors very much, but they have a pretty cool rating system. (Hopefully my image will upload.) No, more nic does not mean more vapor.

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From reading, more PG is a better throat hit, so I think I will be going for the 80/20. And have you guys heard any bad news about using the 36mg nicotine liquids? I told the guy today I used 36 and he jumped back like whoa, we only have 16mg, any increased risks with this mg , SERIOUS QUESTION. Am I mistaking a bigger throat hit with a higher mg of nicotine? or can I get a 16 with a good throat hit...I mean the point is to eventually quit using nicotine down the road completely right?

Just wanted to deal with the e-liquid question separately.

Yes, more PG will give you more throat hit, but beginning vapers rarely lack for throat hit once they get a device that works well and a battery where they can fine tune the voltage to suit the e-liquid. Later on, once you drop the nicotine below 16 mg/ml this become more of an issue.

Higher percentages of VG produce a lot more vapour. There's actually something to be said for this - and the first time you try a bottom coil device and make a plume of vapour that completely obscures your computer screen can be a watershed moment. There's something so completely satisfying about it. Well, everyone's different but that was my experience. If you're going to start at 18 mg/ml nicotine or higher, then 80/20 PG isn't going to make that much of a difference. You might enjoy 70/30 (my own preference) or 60/40 to be a very satisfying experience. The usual advice here is one I'll repeat: get a range of different ratios and see which works the best for you. More PG will have more flavour, more VG will produce more vapour.

VG is also thicker, especially at lower temperatures, and this can affect the wicking efficience of many of these devices, so that has to be taken into account as well.
 

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I appreciate all the comments it really helps. I will continue research and try to find what is going to work for me. Again thank you all very much, and im glad to have started this journey to cigarette free lifestyle.

welcome,

I started with the iclear 16's they started to leak and break so i upgraded to the iclear30, I really enjoy the 30, also the protank, then I got into rebuildables.

I got a AGA t2 and started playing with that, it took a bit to get used to it but its working pretty good now.

lots of people like the vivi nova's, I had one and the tank snapped in my pocket at work. leaving me stranded. Now im scared of them.
 
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