New at RDA/Mods/Sub-ohm

[willzy]

Hello,

I'm thinking of going with the Munstro mod and a Stillare or Zenith v2 rda combo. A buddy had a nice Stillare clone and after using it, I have to have one. I'm especially curious if the Munstro being 23mm will be flush with either of the RDAs I listed, that's kind of important from an aesthetics perspective to me.

I have no experience with wrapping coils or using sub ohm, so any links to threads on those topics would be appreciated.

Danke Schon

 

[classwife]

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[dchemist]

Hello,

I'm thinking of going with the Munstro Mod and a Stillare or Zenith v2 RDA combo. A buddy had a nice Stillare clone and after using it, I have to have one. I'm especially curious if the Munstro being 23mm will be flush with either of the RDAs I listed, that's kind of important from an aesthetics perspective to me.

I have no experience with wrapping coils or using sub ohm, so any links to threads on those topics would be appreciated.

Danke Schon

Ok, I'll bite. What is your current set-up? Do you have a digital multi meter (DMM)?

 

[willzy]

Ok, I'll bite. What is your current set-up? Do you have a digital multi meter (DMM)?

I already have a multimeter. I also am ordering a kit along with the wire and ohm meter. I used to be welder, now I'm a banker, I am an avid saltwater reefkeeper, so I'm not unfamiliar with electricity or the dangers associated with it, and I am someone who pays close attention to detail and doesn't take chances. I bought some good Sony 18650 batteries to go with my Joyetech eVic Supreme (my current set up). Along with the charger from RTD (recommended in a previous post). I've been reading a lot of the posts on here and I was just hoping to sift through the BS and get some good info. The kid that had the set up I tried was 19 and I don't consider him to be the best or safest teacher on how to get into this. I've been vaping for several months now and the difference in taste and smoke production piqued my interest. I know how forums get snarky about noobs since I am a member of several saltwater forums. I'm just trying to get the scoop so I can build a safe and reliable RDA and mod. I have done some research and used google and youtube, but I'm not trying to build some cloud chasing time bomb. I just want to build a handsome and safe RDA with a quality base mod. The Munstro looked like a good value since it comes with three tubes and a stand.

Sorry I posted in the wrong forum, I'm not familiar with this website although I am quite knowledgeable about navigating forums. I just wanted to get some good links and opinions. Sorry if that is stepping on folk's toes. I get into something and go all the way and don't half ..... it. My humble apologies if my post seemed like a troll or a noob stupid question. I'm familiar with Ohms law and basic electrical safety precautions. I just wanted some genuine good links, not some stoned bum talking about how to build a hand grenade that puts out tons of vape. There are no clubs or decent vape shops in town so I'm trying to ask before I go out and spend money on something that isn't safe or worth the cash. Buy once, cry once is my motto.

Thanks for anyone that wants to contribute links to decent stickies or other websites that might have helpful and safe coil wrapping instructions. Also, anyone that has the Munstro mod along with either the Zenith or Stillare I'd like to hear your opinions on both. I don't particularly like the ethics of clones, so that is why I'm going for the higher end stuff.

Regards,

will

 

[dchemist]

Excellent, some good background on you and now we know where to start. Don't worry about posting in the wrong forum, it happens to all of us.

On to the important stuff. I'm not familiar with the Munstro but the Stillare and Zenith are both 22 mm RDAs. Aesthetics wise the 1 mm diameter difference will be noticeable. I personally think that a smaller RDA is more visually acceptable than having a smaller mod. There are some very nice high quality clones on the market but sticking with authentic mods I would recommend looking for 22 mm mods.

Do a search for Batitude on ECF and read his blog about batteries. He was the go to source for me. Also, I like all the YouTube reviews done by pBusardo. He reviews authentic devices and does a good job. Sorry I've not posted direct links but I'm using Tapatalk on my phone and it doesn't work well. I'll try beat the kids off the computer tomorrow and give you some good links.

 

[USMCotaku]

Well, assuming the Sony batteries you mentioned are vtc5's, you already started safe.

 

[jaxgator]

Well, assuming the Sony batteries you mentioned are vtc5's, you already started safe.

To an extent. One still needs to understand Ohm's Law, as even the VTC5 has its limits.

 

[Wraith504]

i have an hcigar stillare clone and it is a nice rda. Really good flavor and you can get a pretty good bit of airflow in there with the cyclops holes. It is pretty easy to build on as well. I wouldnt dive right into a sub-ohm build on your first few tries, maybe try building around a 1.2 ish dual coil setup. should give you some good flavor. The Zenith gives better vapor production IMO. Youtube will be the easiest place for you to learn about your coil building.

 

[AzPlumber]

Nice to see a poster that seems genuinely concerned about safety. Don't worry about posting in the wrong forum just don't make it a habit. Classy will bark a couple times before she bites, you just don't want to get bitten.

You're getting an ohm meter so make it a habit to use it religiously. I use mine regardless of how many times I've built the same setup. I use mine during a build and before I screw it into a mod, every time. The Stillare is an great RDA and easy to build on. It is designed for dual coils and works best that way. Make sure your coils are the same resistance, they will preform better when they are. I would suggest you start out with both coils at 1.5 or 1.6 ohms, this will give you a operating resistance of .75 to .8. You can always creep down from there on future builds. Your batteries are suited for much lower so you're well above any threshold. Lots of good info on the forum about making coils and wicking them. As suggested check these out for reliable info E-Cigarette Forum - Baditude - Blogs

Do you have any specific questions?

 

[USMCotaku]

To an extent. One still needs to understand Ohm's Law, as even the VTC5 has its limits.

he had already spoke of his familiarity with ohms law, and I believed him

 

[ughmassa]

Coil building. Rip trippers YouTube

 

[Wraith504]

To an extent. One still needs to understand Ohm's Law, as even the VTC5 has its limits.

I vape .14 -..24 on vtc5s without them barely getting luke warm. I think the biggest problem would be a hard short. or a really long autofire.

 

[jaxgator]

I vape .14 -..24 on vtc5s without them barely getting luke warm. I think the biggest problem would be a hard short. or a really long autofire.

.14Ω is pushing the battery's limits IMO. The VTC5 is rated at 20 amps continuous and 30 amps pulse. I always stay within the safe zone myself. That would be the continuous amp rating.

At .14 you are pulling 30 amps, the maximum pulse rate for that battery and pushing your luck. .3Ω is warm enough for me and pulling 14 amps. Well within the safe range.

Personally, I wouldn't go below .2Ω with a VTC5 but that's just me.

 

[USMCotaku]

.14 is pushing the battery's limits IMO. The VTC5 is rated at 20 amps continuous and 30 amps pulse. I always stay within the safe zone myself. That would be the continuous amp rating.



At .14 you are pulling 30 amps, the maximum pulse rate for that battery and pushing your luck. .3 is warm enough for me and pulling 14 amps. Well within the safe range.



Personally, I wouldn't go below .2 with a VTC5 but that's just me.

the vtc5 is 30 amp continuous

 

[jaxgator]

the vtc5 is 30 amp continuous

I stand corrected. Thank you!

 

[USMCotaku]

You were probably thinking of the purple efest battery, that is labeled at 35 amps, but is really only 20 continuous

 

[willzy]

Thanks folks.
I found a chart on utahvapers and a really good blog from a guy named godofsteam. I don't know if I can post full website addies per the forum rules, so I didn't put the full addresses in. I'm not looking to build anything below .5-.6 and it seems that the batteries I have are genuine and well within the safety zone for that level of resistance. I appreciate your links and comments and as soon as I get my 510 threaded ohm reader I'm going to start by checking the ohms it reads vs what my joyetech tells me it's pulling at. Unfortunately, the wife is putting the kibosh on any new purchases for a while, so that should give me plenty of time to read up and research on it. There is a shop in town that has some clones and supplies, so I may drop less than a hundred and get something not so perfect for my first attempt.

Are there any good books on this subject? Or is this such cutting edge stuff that a book hasn't come out yet on it. In reefing you really learn patience and to do your research before making any changes, so I'm looking forward to getting the research in. I asked about the links on youtube because a lot of what I have seen is done by guys that didn't mention safety and were building things w/o testing them (that I saw) just to blow the biggest cloud. I don't have pretty mug by any stretch, but I don't want it looking any worse from a youtube build that goes sideways on me.

Thanks for your help and as soon as I get the green light from the significant other I'm looking forward to starting a build thread so you all can chime in when I'm screwing up and potentially save me making mistakes that could have been avoided by checking here first. This site seems like a good bunch of people and I'm looking forward to becoming an avid contributor (once I have something worth contributing).

Thanks!

 

[dchemist]

Just a thought but the evic supreme is rated from 0.5 Ohms up to 5 ohms. You should be able to pick up a zenith or stillare, ohm reader, wire, wick, and some new juice and still be well below $100. The advantage is that you've got a safety net built in for when you short that first coil (it happens to us all at some point). With your batteries and an evic supreme you're already pretty well set up to move to RBAs. Between the evic and your DMM you really would not need to purchase an ohm meter right away saving you another $25 or so. I think you could start rebuilding for less than $50. It might make for an easier sell to the wife right now (or give you an additional $50 for a cool new tube worm)!

 

[willzy]

Just a thought but the evic supreme is rated from 0.5 Ohms up to 5 ohms. You should be able to pick up a zenith or stillare, ohm reader, wire, wick, and some new juice and still be well below $100. The advantage is that you've got a safety net built in for when you short that first coil (it happens to us all at some point). With your batteries and an evic supreme you're already pretty well set up to move to RBAs. Between the evic and your DMM you really would not need to purchase an ohm meter right away saving you another $25 or so. I think you could start rebuilding for less than $50. It might make for an easier sell to the wife right now (or give you an additional $50 for a cool new tube worm)!

I knew I had a multi-meter, but when I went down to the basement and dusted it off it's an old school analog with dials on it, not digital. It was my dad's and he used it to build ham radios, so I'm sure it's quality, but probably not acceptable for what I need it for. However, the good news is I have a Sears gift card for $50. Is there an acceptable (for this purpose) DMM at Sears in that price range?

Thanks for your info on the eVic, Dchemist, we did put his Stillare clone on top of it and took some puffs. It read at .6 ohms (per the eVic Supreme), but I didn't know if it would be safe and didn't want to blow up my Supreme puffing on an untested RDA, so I just used it a couple of times. Good info. I'll go grab a clone and once my kit arrives I'll get started. I'll probably, as someone else advised, build a higher resistance 1.2 or 1.4 first go round and see how that goes. Then go from there.

But first things first I have to wait for my 510 threaded Ohm meter and find out if I can use my Sears card to get a decent digital multimeter.

Again, thanks you all for your advice. Just finding this forum and reading the stickies at the top of it has given me some great food for thought.

 

[dchemist]

Absolutely you can find a good DMM at Sears for $50. One of the Craftsman models is highly rated but for the life of me I can't remember which one. DC voltage is relatively easy to measure so almost any DMM is fine. This difference, as far as Vaping is concerned, is in their ability to measure resistance. I've not been building sub-ohm coils so my meter only showing ohms to one tenth is good enough for me right now. I picked up this meter at Wal-Mart for $21

http://mobile.walmart.com/ip/Innova...nging-Digital-Multimeter/14644666?type=search

I don't want to swear to it, but I think any build that fires on your eVic is safe to Vape (strictly speaking in terms of battery safety).