New Blu Owner Looking for Refill Info

[Cowboy Dan]

Ok, got my Blu Monday, and I can already tell I'm not liking the cartridges that come with it. I'm getting great vapor from stock carts for the first few pulls, and have learned slow and steady is the best way to draw on this thing. I'm having to change carts constantly, and want to start refilling. I have ordered two bottles of juice from Johnson's Creek (Black Cherry, Tennessee Cured-both reduced PG) and am curious as to how long a refilled cart lasts among other things. If anyone has any general tips to get a better vaping experience with this unit, I'd be happy to hear them. Just any general info on refilling, experience with refilled vs. stock carts, vapor production would be helpful to hear. Much obliged.

 

[Bandit]

Check youtube for "refilling blu cart".

Also look into buying Joye 306a carts and attys.

 

[halfevildruid]

My experience is it doesn't matter what model you got, you are topping it off all day to stay satisfied. I top of with 2 drops and it is great, then when it's time to vape again I top off again. I have owned 10 or 12 models including blu. I have NOT tried a cart mod, PTB, etc... I hear that is much better. Guess I am just lazy (or too busy). You can find it here on the forum... time for another 2 drops...

 

[Cowboy Dan]

Also look into buying Joye 306a carts and attys.

Where might I find a supplier for those?

 

[Bandit]

Here ya go..............

The actual cart size of the 306 is the same length as a Blu cart. I think the 306 carts are better, not only is the liquid cart larger, but it has a rubber plug on top to catch juice like the 510 carts.



The 306 on the Blu battery is the same length as the Blu overall. However,

when you put the 306 carts loose in the PCC you need to shave a small amount of the rubber plug on the end of the cart. Its not a problem there is plenty of rubber there. This will make the PCC close nice and tight.



Also, Rocky Mountain Vapor has a sale going for 306 atomizers $6.00.

JOYE306 Atomizers



I attached a link with a photo of the 306 cart and you can see the rubber end of the cart.

306A Blank cartridges 5 pack

 

[Cowboy Dan]

To halfevil..yeah the PTB sounds like it might just do the trick, I might give it a go. Appreciate the response. It's weird, I just put a classic tobacco cart on and had a good 10-20 puffs of good to semi-good vapor just now. The one before it, I got about 3 and had nada vape after that. I really can't figure this thing out I'm hoping to maybe keep 5 carts of juice with atomizers on each to get me through the work day given the inconsistency on the blu. Hopefully, if nothing else, the juice will be a cheaper alternative to the stock carts.

I'm kinda dissappointed in myself, was doing great all week..about two analogs is all I'd had until my blu decided to go all crazy today. I got ...... and smoked about 3 times more than I had all week. Decided to sit down, give the Blu another go and had my best vaping experience yet on it....go figure.

 

[Cowboy Dan]

Thanks bandit

 

[mischiefgrrl]

Hang in there, you'll be done with those analogs soon. I did the same thing. Went all weekend without a smoke then bought a pack Monday. I was happy that it lasted me 3 days instead of just one. Then last night bought cigs to smoke with my neighbor and smoke nearly the whole thing in one night. Today I'm back on vaping only and feeling fine.

To refill the Blu, just keep a small bottle of vapor with you. Prefill at least two carts, one to keep on the assembled cig and another using the atomizer as a cap. When they start to get weak, just squeeze two little drops into the cart filling before taking your smoke break.

 

[Cowboy Dan]

To refill the Blu, just keep a small bottle of vapor with you. Prefill at least two carts, one to keep on the assembled cig and another using the atomizer as a cap. When they start to get weak, just squeeze two little drops into the cart filling before taking your smoke break.

Thanks mischief, I will keep that in mind.

I just called tech support yesterday about a dead atomizer, thought it was toast. Woke up this mornning, and getting great vapor off it. So my collection of attys on this thing will be up to 6. In retrospect, wish I would have visited these boards sooner, probably woulda just gone with the Joye 306 that Bandit mentioned. I'm kinda stubborn, so I may just try and get this thing working to my needs.

Thanks all for the info.

 

[rhoneil]

I dont have my blues any more but after learning what I have about cart mods and PTB material you should be able to make a mod that will work pretty well and almost dry your blue cart as opposed to only getting the top part from with the stock material.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/cartridge-mods/32746-now-i-regret-returning-my-blue-kit.html#post515384

 

[hxj]

I just got my "on sale" 306A atomizers from Rocky Mountain Vapor, at least one was clearly used-- smelled like (and was still wet from) tobacco e-liquid. I probably won't be buying from them again.

I can confirm that they do work, and the carts, too, but so far I have not seen any improvement at all over refilling blu's carts and using blu's atomizers, which are also cheaper.

By far the biggest improvement I've yet seen when refilling blu's carts is to use the Lipton Pyramid tea bag mod. I can stuff five blu carts with a single tea bag's worth of PET, and while I haven't got it perfect yet (some leaking inside the mouthpiece, but not too bad), the benefits have been ridiculous. Much, much more vapor-- of course, the downside is that you go through liquid much quicker. But overall, it's been a very satisfying switch.

One caveat: it made the draw EVEN LIGHTER, which personally I like, but I know lots of people don't like how light the blu's draw is, so be warned. Post-PTB mod, vaping most of my carts feels literally like sucking air through a straw. But the amount of vapor is almost ridiculous.

 

[raho]

I started carrying a bottle of juice with me and dripping on to the atomizer. great vapor for about 5 minutes or the time it takes to smoke a real cig. works great, but kind of dangerous when driving. best part is no wasted juice. The Blu's always seem to leave half the juice in the bottom of the cup.

 

[hxj]

Thanks mischief, I will keep that in mind.

I just called tech support yesterday about a dead atomizer, thought it was toast. Woke up this mornning, and getting great vapor off it. So my collection of attys on this thing will be up to 6. In retrospect, wish I would have visited these boards sooner, probably woulda just gone with the Joye 306 that Bandit mentioned. I'm kinda stubborn, so I may just try and get this thing working to my needs.

Thanks all for the info.

I don't think he meant get a 306A kit, just that you can buy 306A blank carts and use them with 306A atomizers with your blu batteries and pack, which you can. I don't think you'll see much improvement, however, if my own experience is anything to go by. Since you have six atomizers like I do, you don't need caps for your refilled carts-- I highly recommend that you carry six carts-and-atomizers in the pack (five in the carriers and one on the blu). It all fits perfectly in the pack and lets you switch flavors without overlap, and also prevents any one of your atomizers getting overused.

As to your dead-and-revived atomizer, it was probably flooded and cleared itself overnight. It's not hard to flood an atomizer, especially when you're just starting out refilling; it may mean that you're refilling carts too full. (Make sure you're pushing the inner cart out of the mouthpiece with a straightened paper clip and filling that, because trying to refill them while they're still in there is an easy way to overfill and flood an atomizer. You want to leave at least a millimeter or two of space at the top of the cart, or else the atomizer wick will overflow it.) To clear a flooded atomizer, unscrew the it from the battery and pull off the cart, and then blow sharply through the battery-end hole in the atomizer while holding a paper towel/tissue in front of the wick. If you see a lot of liquid on the paper, that was probably the problem and you just cleared it.

By the way, the biggest problem with the stock blu carts that I've found is that foil they seal them with. When you pop a new cart on the blu, the atomizer wick breaks the foil-- but not always all the way, so there's only a small hole through which the liquid can pass. Or the foil covers much of the atomizer wick, with the same result. One thing that can really help with the stock carts is to twist the carts all the way around after pushing one on-- that completely tears off the foil-and-plastic seal. Then pull the cart off and the seal will probably be stuck to your atomizer. Pick it off and throw it away, and then push the cart on again. You'll probably notice much better performance.

The PTB mod is loads better, though, and I do recommend it if you've got the patience.

Hope this helps!

 

[Cowboy Dan]

Rhonteil

Yeah, by all I've read on the PTB, it seems that would work well with any setup. It's encouraging to hear there may be hope for this thing yet...I will try and post results once I get my juice and PTB material. I do like the pack on the blue...really convenient for work. I don't know if the "dead" atomizer I had just got broke in or what, but it's vaping great. I've had one analog today, after breakfast, and really wish I wouldn't have smoked it. Found myself wanting vapor. At this rate, if a couple of the attys perform as well as the one I've got now, I may just stick with them.

 

[rhoneil]

one of the reasons that i returned my kit was the pcc started making weird gurgling noises when i had it plugged in. beware, maybe just must mine .

 

[Cowboy Dan]

One caveat: it made the draw EVEN LIGHTER, which personally I like, but I know lots of people don't like how light the blu's draw is, so be warned. Post-PTB mod, vaping most of my carts feels literally like sucking air through a straw. But the amount of vapor is almost ridiculous.

That to me sounds awesome...I like how the Blu draws, much like a real cig to me. I've tried the Njoy Npro, and while the npro tobacco cart has a good taste and plenty of vape, inhaling was like trying to suck a bean through a straw. I guess I never drew that deeply on an analog, i doubt most smokers do.

Very excited to try the PTB mod now and get my juice. I read shredded PTB works best...have you tried this method?

 

[Cowboy Dan]

one of the reasons that i returned my kit was the pcc started making weird gurgling noises when i had it plugged in. beware, maybe just must mine .

I'll keep that in mind..worst case scenario, if it goes bad seems like Blu is good about replacing parts. If it goes bad after the year warranty (if they are still around) I pay the 10 bucks for a new one.

 

[Cowboy Dan]

I don't think he meant get a 306A kit, just that you can buy 306A blank carts and use them with 306A atomizers with your blu batteries and pack, which you can. I don't think you'll see much improvement, however, if my own experience is anything to go by. Since you have six atomizers like I do, you don't need caps for your refilled carts-- I highly recommend that you carry six carts-and-atomizers in the pack (five in the carriers and one on the blu). It all fits perfectly in the pack and lets you switch flavors without overlap, and also prevents any one of your atomizers getting overused.

That sounds about like what I had in mind...perfect setup for work. I think I will bypass purchasing any 306A atomizers given what you have just told me and the fact that my atty really seems to be vaping strong today.

As to your dead-and-revived atomizer, it was probably flooded and cleared itself overnight.

I bet you are right...I guess I'm getting a free atomizer sent to me for my inexperience. Oddly enough, it's working better than ever.

By the way, the biggest problem with the stock blu carts that I've found is that foil they seal them with.

Just started taking the foil out yesterday, and it works tons better!



quote=hxj;533282]Hope this helps![/quote]

Lots! Thanks

 

[hxj]

That to me sounds awesome...I like how the Blu draws, much like a real cig to me. I've tried the Njoy Npro, and while the npro tobacco cart has a good taste and plenty of vape, inhaling was like trying to suck a bean through a straw. I guess I never drew that deeply on an analog, i doubt most smokers do.

Very excited to try the PTB mod now and get my juice. I read shredded PTB works best...have you tried this method?

Not yet, though I'm planning to, because the rolled-and-folded method is leaking a smidge for me. The next time I get a chance (which may be a while) I'll probably try rolled-and-folded again with a bigger piece of PET, more tightly rolled, and also try the shredding method in other carts so I can compare.

It's all a big experiment.

 

[Cowboy Dan]

Not yet, though I'm planning to, because the rolled-and-folded method is leaking a smidge for me. The next time I get a chance (which may be a while) I'll probably try rolled-and-folded again with a bigger piece of PET, more tightly rolled, and also try the shredding method in other carts so I can compare.

It's all a big experiment.

How often do you change out your PET in carts? I'm guessing given PG's antimicrobial nature the worry wouldn't be one of bacterial build up, but more of a taste thing?