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[HotRod19579]

I've been using this and ELR forever. How do we know which calculator is right? 2 calculators show 2 different amount of grams to use.


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The grams are calculated base on the weight of the ingredient. The weight, grams per ml, of the ingredient is multiplied by the total ml to add. You should look at the weight values for the ingredient(s) that isn't matching to make sure they are the same value in both calculators. What are the two values?


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[Scouser]

I don't have Microsoft print to PDF since I'm on a MAC


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Unfortunately, the printer driver in wine is broken. You wont get it to work on the Mac. The thing that's strange is that it almost works. On the Mac when you print something you get the option to print to PDF. Under wine this option is missing. But the main thing that's not working is the format of the print output. That was the reason I suggested installing Wintricks allfonts because the problem with the output seems to be something to do with font selection and the expected fonts are not loaded in the wine setup. But I have not been able to get it to work.

 

[Scouser]

Got an Unhandled Exception. In accessing the Steeping Recipes from the View Menu.

Cannot access a disposed objet.
Object name: "RecipeEntryCombbox"

Closing the program and reopening appears to have taken care of it.

I've seen this exact exception msg on the Mac under Wine but for selecting available inventory. HR knows about my problems though

 

[Tyler Smith]

The grams are calculated base on the weight of the ingredient. The weight, grams per ml, of the ingredient is multiplied by the total ml to add. You should look at the weight values for the ingredient(s) that isn't matching to make sure they are the same value in both calculators. What are the two values?


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Just for example I'll say the Nicotine. ELR says 1.03 where your's says .9


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[HotRod19579]

Just for example I'll say the Nicotine. ELR says 1.03 where your's says .9


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The only way to know the difference is to know:
What is the specified weight of your nicotine ingredient in both calculators?
How many ml's of nicotine is being added?
What is the PG/VG percentage of your nicotine?

The difference is more than likely being caused by using one weight value in one calculator and another weight value in the other. Weight value is grams per ml.


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[Tyler Smith]

I don't even know that info so it's whatever the default is. I mean I set it to 50/50 100mg but don't know the weight


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[HotRod19579]

I don't even know that info so it's whatever the default is. I mean I set it to 50/50 100mg but don't know the weight


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Go to the ingredients window and display your nicotine ingredient
For PG percentage enter 50.0
For VG percentage enter 50.0
Note the value of "Grams per ml". Click the "Calculate weight based on PG/VG %". It should update to a value that reflects the weight of PG/VG 50/50 (1.143). You also have the option to enter the actual weight of your ingredient.

 

[Tyler Smith]

That worked. Thanks.


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[Hoggy]

That worked. Thanks.

Also note that if you get slightly different values in the future, most especially noted if you might have a lot of ingredients... Is that ELR [at least by default, I think] is using the manufacturer's specific gravity for the ingredients, which tends to differ slightly from calculating strictly on pg/vg ratios. You can input the specific gravity into JC by viewing the ingredients on ELR.. Many ingredients will list that info on the ELR ingredient page, but sometimes not. If they don't list it on ELR, you might be able to scrounge that info by searching the manufacturers' sites or google, if you wish to go that far.

 

[Hoggy]

It is actually Windows that is removing it. The install doesn't know the location(s) of where an object has been pinned. It appears that when the installation files are replaced that windows is cleaning up shortcuts and removing them.

Note that I did the pinning on my Windows 10 machine and the pinned items remained after the update. Strange.

One thing that might fix it, possibly.. Is maybe not replacing the icon files if they already exist..??
There are programs that don't lose pinnings here, like Directory Opus, Thunderbird, and Firefox (incl. variants). And then there are ones such as JC and Lightroom that do lose the pinnings, especially after major upgrades(Lightroom).

One thing I notice is that both JC and Lightroom will have their icons replaced with ones in the default locations (on the left side), whereas the other ones listed keep their icon positions after updates/upgrades.

So perhaps that's due to a difference between overwriting/replacing vs. checking if they already exist and then not replacing..?? Definitely strange why JC doesn't do it on your machine(s), but I guess that's Windows for ya.

 

[HotRod19579]

One thing that might fix it, possibly.. Is maybe not replacing the icon files if they already exist..??
There are programs that don't lose pinnings here, like Directory Opus, Thunderbird, and Firefox (incl. variants). And then there are ones such as JC and Lightroom that do lose the pinnings, especially after major upgrades(Lightroom).

One thing I notice is that both JC and Lightroom will have their icons replaced with ones in the default locations (on the left side), whereas the other ones listed keep their icon positions after updates/upgrades.

So perhaps that's due to a difference between overwriting/replacing vs. checking if they already exist and then not replacing..?? Definitely strange why JC doesn't do it on your machine(s), but I guess that's Windows for ya.

Unfortunately I don't have that level of control over installation. I am using the free version of InstallShield for the installation and many of the options are locked down unless you purchase the full version. I have better things to spend my $2800 on.

 

[HotRod19579]

I am considering adding a change (two changes) and I would like some thoughts/feedback.
1. Currently when the "Calculate weight based on PG/VG %" is clicked I calculate the weight based on the percentage of PG and VG. I am going to also add consideration for the amount of nicotine in the ingredient.

2. When the save button is clicked for an ingredient I am going to calculate the weight based on PG, VG and Nicotine (if present) and see if the weight entered is within range of the calculated weight. If the weight is not within range, generate and "are you sure" type of message providing the calculated value. Thoughts? What is within range, +- 0.001? +- 0.01?

Also, while googling for the weight of Nicotine I ran across different stated values for the weight of PG and VG. Does anyone know the official weight of PG & VG? The weight values which I am using, which may be slightly off are:
PG - 1.036 (Some sites are stating 1.038)
VG - 1.249 (Some sites are stating 1.26)
Nicotine, pure nicotine is 1.01 but I will adjust this value based on the stated mg.
All non PG/VG/Nic will use 1.0.

 

[ShowerHead]

I am considering adding a change (two changes) and I would like some thoughts/feedback.
1. Currently when the "Calculate weight based on PG/VG %" is clicked I calculate the weight based on the percentage of PG and VG. I am going to also add consideration for the amount of nicotine in the ingredient.

Also, while googling for the weight of Nicotine I ran across different stated values for the weight of PG and VG. Does anyone know the official weight of PG & VG? The weight values which I am using, which may be slightly off are:
PG - 1.036 (Some sites are stating 1.038)
VG - 1.249 (Some sites are stating 1.26)
Nicotine, pure nicotine is 1.01 but I will adjust this value based on the stated mg.

I used the Dow Chemical values for VG & PG when I wanted to be exact.
I think using nicotine weight is a great idea. It isn't a large difference, but a difference nonetheless.
Thanks for all you do!

 

[Rick Calhoun]

I am considering adding a change (two changes) and I would like some thoughts/feedback.
1. Currently when the "Calculate weight based on PG/VG %" is clicked I calculate the weight based on the percentage of PG and VG. I am going to also add consideration for the amount of nicotine in the ingredient.

2. When the save button is clicked for an ingredient I am going to calculate the weight based on PG, VG and Nicotine (if present) and see if the weight entered is within range of the calculated weight. If the weight is not within range, generate and "are you sure" type of message providing the calculated value. Thoughts? What is within range, +- 0.001? +- 0.01?

Also, while googling for the weight of Nicotine I ran across different stated values for the weight of PG and VG. Does anyone know the official weight of PG & VG? The weight values which I am using, which may be slightly off are:
PG - 1.036 (Some sites are stating 1.038)
VG - 1.249 (Some sites are stating 1.26)
Nicotine, pure nicotine is 1.01 but I will adjust this value based on the stated mg.
All non PG/VG/Nic will use 1.0.

I for one hate the nag dialog boxes asking me extra questions so as long as there is a way to shut it off....

 

[tsiis]

First: I adore this nifty comprehensive calculator! Thanks so much! The main reason to dive into this, is because it has a portable option (which I'm using) And the fact you're actively maintaining and updating the program is just superb!

Some (long term) wishes:

• I can't seem to find the Hotkey-trigger option for the "adding to steeping recipes list" [edit: @Fozzy71 helped me find it], and it seems I can only add recipes to the steeping list when printing labels (I write mine by hand, so it's quite a hassle to go through the label printing to set it up). And an option to be able to manually edit the steeping list would be great as well.
• I've had some trouble with Printing All Recipes, it won't show the nicotine ingredients for a lot of records, found out I had to save each recipe everytime before printing to get an accurate document (which is quite inconvenient). It would also be nice to have the steeptime noted there (for now I use the recipe notes to get that info in print).
• I'd like to see a Hotkey-trigger for the Simple Calculators window.

But as stated before, I'm very very happy with the program as it is now!

 

[Fozzy71]

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• I can't seem to find the Hotkey-trigger option for the "adding to steeping recipes list", and it seems I can only add recipes to the steeping list when printing labels (I write mine by hand, so it's quite a hassle to go through the label printing to set it up). And an option to be able to manually edit the steeping list would be great as well....

You have to add/set it. I was confused a little at first as well. Let me see if I can recall how I did it:

tools > hotkey options > recipe window > function drop down box > choose 'start steeping recipe' > set your special key and key value (I used Alt+P) > click 'Add hot key' button.

 

[tsiis]

You have to add/set it. I was confused a little at first as well. Let me see if I can recall how I did it:

tools > hotkey options > recipe window > function drop down box > choose 'start steeping recipe' > set your special key and key value (I used Alt+P) > click 'Add hot key' button.

@Fozzy71 Thanks so much!

 

[Hoggy]

2. When the save button is clicked for an ingredient I am going to calculate the weight based on PG, VG and Nicotine (if present) and see if the weight entered is within range of the calculated weight. If the weight is not within range, generate and "are you sure" type of message providing the calculated value. Thoughts? What is within range, +- 0.001? +- 0.01?

I second what Rick has said - I'd hate to have it nag me each time I press save on the ingredient window. I've set the weights according to what ELR has recorded for it, so don't know how far off each would be.. And I'm often updating the location and notes of ingredients.

 

[HotRod19579]

When it prompts you, you will be able to say don't show me this again. You will also be able to turn it off/on from the options.


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[Rick Calhoun]

One thing to may be think of is when editing ingredients not having to click the save button every time you edit an ingredient but only once when you close the dialog box.