I've been doing this for years and it is the first time I've ever heard this.I find the concept ridiculous and seriously wonder about the mental condition of those who have propagated such an idea.Glad you have the sense to question such a statement.
New DIYer, worried about nicotine and need some recipes
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Well, going on the premise that we store nic in dark colored glass bottles to minimize the exposure to light and air, I still don't think glass bottles are going to prohibit melding of flavor molecules with pg and vg molecules, which occur with good old time and inattention. If you believe in "steeping" with the lid off, then take the lid off your glass bottles. It's kinda hard to "burp" glass bottles though, good thing I never do that. . .
I thought it sounded weird. I was told that on another thread when I ordered Ahlusion juice. They send them in glass bottles and a couple people said I should put them in plastic while they steep or it would take 2x as long. I love glass, not only for DIY but all my storage containers for food are glass as I think it is much better than plastics. Thanks again for all your insights. I do not have an ultrasonic cleaner(yet
but what are your steps in a heat bath. I have never done it with premade juice, I just let it sit in my cabinet. I would love to hear the experts(or even someone with more experience than me,which is everyone
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Just because people do certain things and they think it works for them, doesn't mean there is any basis for fact behind their methods.
Not that I'm making fun of what other's do- everyone has their own way of going about things. Similar to cooking. Sometimes you hit on something that you think works for you. I don't like to give advice about DIY- I'm far from an expert and I'm pretty lazy about it. I just make my liquids, wait a few days and vape. I do transfer larger quantities into glass bottles. That's about as 'fancy' as I get.
Not that I'm making fun of what other's do- everyone has their own way of going about things. Similar to cooking. Sometimes you hit on something that you think works for you. I don't like to give advice about DIY- I'm far from an expert and I'm pretty lazy about it. I just make my liquids, wait a few days and vape.
I do transfer larger quantities into glass bottles. That's about as 'fancy' as I get.
Just because people do certain things and they think it works for them, doesn't mean there is any basis for fact behind their methods.
Not that I'm making fun of what other's do- everyone has their own way of going about things. Similar to cooking. Sometimes you hit on something that you think works for you. I don't like to give advice about DIY- I'm far from an expert and I'm pretty lazy about it. I just make my liquids, wait a few days and vape.
I completely agree... the 'only' difference i'd make is with caustic flavors such as Cinnamon or strong flavors such as really strong citrus ones, I prefer doing all these in glass. Everything else, the plastic seems to be fine for me...
You are asking the right questions... that's for sure. You're going to get a LOT of different answers for what works best for some may not be what is best for others. Best thing is just use your best judgment and what works for you and your budget. These are the same questions I asked when I started and kinda' had to learn the hard way before I was fortunate enough to find this AWESOME site. Keep asking away... your questions will bring on answers for those that want and need the same answers...
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Mix up some 12-18mg unflavored base first, maybe about 60mL. Then break this out into small 5mL bottles and use a single flavor in each. Taste each flavor separately, (510 or 306 atty handy here) dripping on the atty. Taste a few drops of your single flavor creations combined with others by dripping a drop of one with a drop of another to see what works for you.
Once you know what each flavor tastes to you, will make it easier to develop combinations that you like...
I agree with Stosh - this is how I do it too.
As soon as I get my 100mG nic, I dilute it down to approximately where I want to end up. You want something between 12mG and 18mG and 70PG/30VG, correct? And you bought 30mL of 100mG nic, right? If you dilute it 1:6 total, you'll end up with 16.66mG (in your range). In other words, for every 1 part (30mL) 100mG nic, add 5 parts (5 times 30 or 150mL) PG/VG giving you a total of 180mL 16.66mG nicotine base.
Is your 100mG nicotine PG or VG based?
If it's PG based, add 2 parts (60mL) VG and 3 parts (90mL) PG. If it's VG based, add 1 part (30mL) VG and 4 parts (120mL) PG. In both cases, you'll end up with 180mL 67PG/33VG nicotine base.
That just needs to be done once. Now simply work with the nicotine base and add flavorings.
As you add flavorings, the numbers will change slightly. Most flavorings are PG based so (depending on how much flavoring you add), the PG/VG ratio will increase somewhat while the nicotine percentage will fall slightly.
Personally it doesn't matter to me if the juice ends up at 16mG or 15mG or 14mG, nor do I really worry if it's exactly 70/30 or 67/33 or 75/25. I know I'll be in the right ballpark. Take notes on what you do. Then, when you find something you really really like, you can recreate it.
Thanks that helps a lot. I will do that as soon as I get my supplies. So if I use the calculator I can just save this a nicotine base and add flavoring to see how much I should add. Sorry but math is not my strong suit, I am not bad but I feel more comfortable just using a calculator until I feel more comfortable. I always over think things before I do them. I get myself all worked up and it ends up not being as much an issue as I imagined in my head. So when doing a warm bath steep is it just sitting bottles in warm water or is it simmering them in a pot under a very low (not boiling but hot) water? Thanks.
Before I forget when you get your syringes take some clear nail polish and put several layers on the numbers and markings. This will keep them from wiping off after several uses in the pg/vg and nicotine.
Oh I had never thought about that, I have to be buy them for my girls all the time( the kind to give meds with) So I had planned to get a 1 ml syringe for those fractions of a ml, and a 5 and 10ml does that sound right? Also is the needle necessary or can I just suck it up like I do my daughter medicine? Thanks.
I'm about to receive my first order and dig in myself. I got 60mg VG nicotine, so I should just premix this and my other PG/VG to get the base I want first? I also don't care if the nicotine is a little lower or higher (I usually vape around 12mg) and add flavoring after to make things easier? I used to vape 70/30 PG-VG, then 50/50, but now I think I want to aim for a higher VG ratio as PG has been irritating me a bit lately. I don't need a lot of TH but I do want flavor.
Should I open every flavoring and let it air out before I start mixing or just try something and if it tastes like poo, then let it steep and see if it improved over time? I haven't done any DIY yet but I've been reading a lot and it seems like a lot of flavors seem perfumey and need to steep while others are vapable right away. I got about 40 flavorings or so (a bit overboard perhaps) but I want to try out a lot of stuff and make sure I have the right flavorings for it.
Btw, has anyone tried pie crust and can tell me what it tastes like?
Should I open every flavoring and let it air out before I start mixing or just try something and if it tastes like poo, then let it steep and see if it improved over time? I haven't done any DIY yet but I've been reading a lot and it seems like a lot of flavors seem perfumey and need to steep while others are vapable right away. I got about 40 flavorings or so (a bit overboard perhaps) but I want to try out a lot of stuff and make sure I have the right flavorings for it.
Btw, has anyone tried pie crust and can tell me what it tastes like?
Ok. I'm fairly new also (making DIY) for about 2 months. So take what a say with a grain. Best tool I've found is the eJuice Me Up calculator BREAKTRU I predominatly use Cabellas for my flavoring. Still getting my feet wet but have come up with a few mixes that my taste buds really enjoy. As far as mixing your 30ml of 100mg/ml nic the calculations for a 70%/30% mix (that is if your Nic is PG based) will be PG=145ml + VG=75ml that will give you a good 250ml to start with. There are a few places to get supplies for ease of mixing, I bought some 400ml glass bomex beakers on ebay for the big stuff and some 50ml and 15ml conical vials from Nudenicotine along with a couple of 250ml Amber storage bottles. And then there's the syringes from I can't remember where. Need anything PM me, I'll be glad to assist.
Question guys, What is the difference of 100mg and 36mg of nicotine? I recently mixed my ejuice using 100mg nic (pg base) and my target nicotine is 3mg in a 5 ml bottle my pg, vg ratio is 50/50 and 5% of single flavor and I used ejuice me up calculator. So calculator said, 0.6 ml of 100mg (pg), 1.4 ml of pg, 2.5 vg and 0.5 of flavor concentrate (pg).
The result: my lungs cant take it when i vape it and cant vape it without coughing.
What if, if i dilute my 100mg nic down to 25mg? Would i get the same result?
Ps: im smoking a marlboro red 12mg of tar and 1mg of nicotine (japanese marlboro red) maybe different in america. Im smoking 10-15 sticks a day. Any help? Thanks!
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The result: my lungs cant take it when i vape it and cant vape it without coughing.
What if, if i dilute my 100mg nic down to 25mg? Would i get the same result?
Ps: im smoking a marlboro red 12mg of tar and 1mg of nicotine (japanese marlboro red) maybe different in america. Im smoking 10-15 sticks a day. Any help? Thanks!
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That was fast! Should i dilute my nic to 25mg to get 3-6mg of my ejuice? What are your suggestions? Thank you!
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Just use the proper amount to create the target.
If you miss a dilution with a batch, it's a small amount to worry about.
Miss a dilution with a whole bottle of nic and it's a bunch more to worry about.
Learning the math behind the calculator is always a good idea.
If you miss a dilution with a batch, it's a small amount to worry about.
Miss a dilution with a whole bottle of nic and it's a bunch more to worry about.
Learning the math behind the calculator is always a good idea.
This recipie gave you 5mls of 12mg/ml nicotine at 50/50 pg/vg with 10% flavor.
Did you make sure to hit the calculate button on the bottom after you made any final changes? I have noticed on mine that if I make a change in any of the fields, they sometimes recalculate and sometimes don't. If you hit the calculate button it will recalculate everything.
Did you make sure to hit the calculate button on the bottom after you made any final changes? I have noticed on mine that if I make a change in any of the fields, they sometimes recalculate and sometimes don't. If you hit the calculate button it will recalculate everything.
Hey everyone,
So I could not believe when i checked my mail yesterday, I had already got my nicotine and cream from ecigexpress. I ordered it on Monday. So how long does Capellas take usually for delivery? Thanks.
So I could not believe when i checked my mail yesterday, I had already got my nicotine and cream from ecigexpress. I ordered it on Monday. So how long does Capellas take usually for delivery? Thanks.
Hi again Linsay, Glad your getting in to DIY as well. It is a lot of fun and can save a ton of money. To save a little more money, in the future, check out Wizard Labs for your bases and Nic Their Flavor Lab also gets a lot of good reviews here as well. They sell 8ml glass bottles of flavor for like $1.59 so you can try many flavors for a small price. I have used them for base and nic before but I just placed an order this week for a bunch of flavors to check out.
Their Flavor Lab also gets a lot of good reviews here as well. They sell 8ml glass bottles of flavor for like $1.59 so you can try many flavors for a small price. I have used them for base and nic before but I just placed an order this week for a bunch of flavors to check out.
Hi again Linsay, Glad your getting in to DIY as well. It is a lot of fun and can save a ton of money. To save a little more money, in the future, check out Wizard Labs for your bases and Nic
Thanks. I think I should have started this thread before ordering bc, I have realized I bought some of the more expensive stuff, but its still no where near what premade juice cost. I have started making a list of places to shop from now on out. I am sure it will take me a while to get a juice I love, so I am still buying my premades to steep in the meantime. Has anyone tried Capellas cinnamon danish by itself? I am hoping to find a cheaper version of this as the Cinnamon danish I get from my B&M is very expensive but is my favorite vape so far. I am a coffee junkie, and it taste like they were made together when I vape at same time as drinking my coffee(brings out flavors in both).
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