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I seem to have problems with the tanks keeping up with me. I taste dry burning atty far too often even with a full tank. Anyone else seeing this or have any solutions? I already remove the chad and I'm not leaking anywhere.

Had this problem until the Jantykorea salesman / manager told me this is the optimum way to use these.

Draw deep, long but slow, not hard and fast. Rest the pv after 6 or 7 draws for atty to cool down a bit. Repeat.

Have not had a burnt hit or change in taste since I began follwing his instructions about 4 /5 weeks ago.
 

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Had this problem until the Jantykorea salesman / manager told me this is the optimum way to use these.

Draw deep, long but slow, not hard and fast. Rest the pv after 6 or 7 draws for atty to cool down a bit. Repeat.

Have not had a burnt hit or change in taste since I began follwing his instructions about 4 /5 weeks ago.

Makes sense. I run 3 units simultaneously which may explain why I'm not encountering some of the same issues others are talking about
 

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Pyrex tanks.... I certainly don't want to be putting glass in my mouth. A slip, a nudge, a knock and hello there Bleeding Mouth McMurphy.

That's why choices are good, personally I would rather not be sucking up plastic into my lungs which is happening with these cheap plastic tanks for me. Pyrex is pretty strong I have them in the newer drip tips and there the best drip tips on the market in my opinion and made right here in the good old USA. Doesn't have to be pyrex though maybe something stronger, I just don't like the plastic and I taste it every once in a while. Stainless steel would be great too, maybe even better than pyrex like I originally said I'm not sure. I would however take either one (pyrex/stainless steel), over these cheap plastic tanks. They really should build these in something better than this cheap plastic though, either way heat and plastic very close together just doesn't make a great vape for me. I want to taste vaporized liquids only, no byproducts in my vape so however they do it I think a small change in material here would be for the better for all of us.

Ceramic could also maybe be an option ?
 

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That's why choices are good, personally I would rather not be sucking up plastic into my lungs which is happening with these cheap plastic tanks for me. Pyrex is pretty strong I have them in the newer drip tips and there the best drip tips on the market in my opinion and made right here in the good old USA. Doesn't have to be pyrex though maybe something stronger, I just don't like the plastic and I taste it every once in a while. Stainless steel would be great too, maybe even better than pyrex like I originally said I'm not sure. I would however take either one (pyrex/stainless steel), over these cheap plastic tanks. They really should build these in something better than this cheap plastic though, either way heat and plastic very close together just doesn't make a great vape for me. I want to taste vaporized liquids only, no byproducts in my vape so however they do it I think a small change in material here would be for the better for all of us.

Ceramic could also maybe be an option ?

Stainless steel or maybe aluminium could be a good option, either would perhaps keep the vapor a bit warmer than plastic too as well as transfering better taste. Aluminium more flexible, so perhaps better.
 

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If they used steel or pyrex or similar, would not the part that gets pierced by the tip thingy still have to be of a material that allows piercing? Or am I misunderstanding which part you all are talking about?

Why would it need peircing? Just have a pre-existing hole with no 'chad' that fits snugly around the wicking needle. There is literally no need for the hole being initially covered really as long as they are vaccuum seal packed for shipping / hygeine.
 

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If they used steel or pyrex or similar, would not the part that gets pierced by the tip thingy still have to be of a material that allows piercing? Or am I misunderstanding which part you all are talking about?

sell them with a pre made hole and add some covers if you want to carry prefilled ones not such a big deal in my eyes.


I hate plastic for these and think its a bad choice..!!
 

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Why would it need peircing? Just have a pre-existing hole with no 'chad' that fits snugly around the wicking needle. There is literally no need for the hole being initially covered really as long as they are vaccuum seal packed for shipping / hygeine.

Thank you Hotwire, my thoughts exactly, plus a cheap rubber cover could be made to go over any filled ones if you wanted to pre fill
 

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Why would it need peircing? Just have a pre-existing hole with no 'chad' that fits snugly around the wicking needle. There is literally no need for the hole being initially covered really as long as they are vaccuum seal packed for shipping / hygeine.

Would that make a tight enough seal ?
 

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I love plastic.

Firhill, I'm positive you know this but just in case you don't know this = if your using any liquids with the malic acid which is what they use for the souring agent in some liquids like Granny smith apple or green apple and some other juices, it will damage the plastic, crack the heck out of it. It even completely shatters the maptanks that are made from Lexan. I did a specific test on this and it's already a done deal, so just be careful if your using any of this type of juice and wonder why your Ego -T tanks are cracking and or leaking and have cracks in them, this may be the reason
 
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I think you're right. I've seen dark juices coming out of my cartos also. When that happens, I either do a PG flush, if the carto is still performing well, or just throw it out and get a new one. Cartomizers are disposable and I don't care about cleaning them.

It's either the heating process that darkens the juices or, possibly, some of the gunk accumulated on the coil is being dissolved in the PG and staining the juice. Or a combination of both.

My beautiful light golden Virginia Tobacco 50/50 12mg (FlavourArt) turned a deep dark brown after only one hour of vaping from the tank, that was in a clean T atty! I dumped the juice, cleaned out the tank and soaked the atty in iso for about 15 minutes...the iso turned deep dark brown too! This did not happen with the other eGo T atty I was using, nor any other vaping method (carto, cart, CE2), so I chalked it up as a defective atty and returned it to the supplier!

Edit: Forgot to add that this particular atty started giving me problems on Day 5 (lack of flavor and very tight draw)...this is why I cleaned it and let air dry for 48 hours. I honestly believe it was a defective atty! I'm looking forward to the next version of this atty and hope JoyeTech fixes all these issues...I've read more people having problems with these atty's than not!
 
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Would that make a tight enough seal ?

probably, can't see why it would be too different from the hard plastic.

Or if it wasn't tight enough, they could make them screw threaded.

I'm ok with them as they are, just chucking ideas out there (which are probably shot full of scientific based practical flaws no doubt!!)
 

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I don't mean to muddy the waters, but just some thoughts after reading this thread:

First off, I like the eGo-t.
It's a brilliant idea on paper, and for me, so far, it works well.
But when looking at it, I still have to consider the cost ratio of what is still a consumable item.

Any conventionally designed atomizer will fail eventually.
Right now, the eGo-t and it's branded brothers and sisters seem to be at best only as good as a conventional 510. And at worst, it's flawed and failing weak point - the stem/wick/needle delivery system to the coil - could fail out of the box.

Again, for me, I have to consider the cost in both money and down time.

Right now, the price of an eGo-t atomizer and 5 tanks are going to run at best somewhere between 17.00 and 23.00 US to get started. Admittedly, tanks are going to have a better lifespan over all, but the atomizer is still going to be a crap-shoot at best. (It's still based on the same technology as any other atomizer.)

Compare that to a simple Joye 510 cartomizer.

Both hold approximately 1ml. of fluid. (Remember not to fill the tank completely full. Leave some air space, etc..)

The 510 carto can be had for 7-8 dollars for a 5 pack. Buy two 5-packs, throw in a blunt tip syringe for about a dollar and now I can get 10 carto's for about the price of 1 eGo-t kit.
(I know some might bring up the objection that cartos are hard to fill, but in my case, I've gotten pretty good at it. Paper clip, pop pop, fill, pop pop, ready to go... :) )

Now again, YMMV, but say for the sake of argument that a carto lasts about a week.
(I know, it's a disposable item subject to failure, etc. But many can attest that their cartos have lasted longer than that.)

And again, for the sake of argument, say that you can get, with proper cleaning and a little TLC, 2 months out of an eGo-t atty.
(That may be a conservative estimate, but for now I'll stick with it.)

Even with those being "guesstimates", I'm still 2 weeks ahead of the game.

Also: If the atomizer goes out in an eGo-t, my tanks are useless until I get another atomizer. With cartos, each one has their own atomizer, so potentially I still have 9 more functional vaping devices.

Add to that: I prefer the overall taste of a carto over an eGo tank. (Tanks seem, for me at least, to mute flavors.)

The price of an eGo-t atty may drop in price in the future, but by how much?
The cost of an eGo Mega atomizer is still very high compared to the regular 510 in was made to replace. And I can't see either eGo specific attys dropping price-wise much more than they are right now.


So, for me at least, while the tank system is an interesting experiment, it's still just that: an experiment. And unfortunately, one that I can't see it improving to the point of becoming my main means of vaping. No matter what kind of improvements made: whether it's a Pyrex tank, a perfect wicking system to the coil, or whatever fault fixed in the future... it's still a consumable item that is going to wear out. (Again, it's still a conventional atomizer. It just has a different and more complex delivery system.)

At that point I have to weigh the cost of convenience over that of price/performance.

Maybe something new that no one here has even considered yet will come out of the blue, and revolutionize the vaping world. But this ain't it. Marketing wise, it may well become THE thing in vaping. But marketing and practicality aren't always in line with one another.
If that were the case, the Tucker automobile would have been a name brand as well known as Ford, GM and Toyota.
 

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I had a little leakage issue today - I have been vaping the same atty and tank since day one - today I decided to try that same tank in another atty and boom, it started leaking... so I cleaned it all up, got a brand new tank for this second atty, and popped it in.

Interestingly, no leaking what so ever and perfect vapage.. This leads me to believe that when you pop a new tank into a specific atty, you need to keep that tank paired up with that atty, or you run the risk of leakage. Of course theoretically, this should not matter, but in my case today, it did..
 
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