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Almost missed that little jab.
actually, a response to an earlier jab
Yes, as a matter of fact, I am. I think that my fear of high wattage vaping had to do with the poor quality of the hardware I was using.
Interesting and I actually went the other way - I'm preferring the 2.1-2.2Ω stuff now. Except for coffee and applewood - 6volts/HV atty and cisco 306lr respectively....
I had some 2.1-2.3Ω cartomizers that would sizzle, sputter and fry/short on me without any provocation. I hated that. This tankomizer is so different. Even though my atties are in the 2.1-2.2Ω range, they don't cook my eliquids at all.
That's part of it for me too, but even the 1.5Ω Joye cylinder and cone/attys were still frying some of my flavors - mostly strong as you know.
The vape is smooth, rich and immensely satisfying. And the taste of my ejuices is so much improved that I hardly recognize some of them. Especially my Halo Menthol Ice and most of the BWB blends. I had a bottle of BWB RY4 that's been sitting in my closet since October because is just tasted too harsh. I put it in a tank today just out of curiosity and it's fantastic--complex, rich, not too sweet. Go figure.
I'll have to try that in a tank - I have a bottle that I've already 'dismissed' as too harsh.
So, yes, I'm looking forward to trying a 1.8Ω atty. Living dangerously.
Lol. Well glad you found some that work for you.
actually, a response to an earlier jab
Yes, as a matter of fact, I am. I think that my fear of high wattage vaping had to do with the poor quality of the hardware I was using.
Interesting and I actually went the other way - I'm preferring the 2.1-2.2Ω stuff now. Except for coffee and applewood - 6volts/HV atty and cisco 306lr respectively....
I had some 2.1-2.3Ω cartomizers that would sizzle, sputter and fry/short on me without any provocation. I hated that. This tankomizer is so different. Even though my atties are in the 2.1-2.2Ω range, they don't cook my eliquids at all.
That's part of it for me too, but even the 1.5Ω Joye cylinder and cone/attys were still frying some of my flavors - mostly strong as you know.
The vape is smooth, rich and immensely satisfying. And the taste of my ejuices is so much improved that I hardly recognize some of them. Especially my Halo Menthol Ice and most of the BWB blends. I had a bottle of BWB RY4 that's been sitting in my closet since October because is just tasted too harsh. I put it in a tank today just out of curiosity and it's fantastic--complex, rich, not too sweet. Go figure.
I'll have to try that in a tank - I have a bottle that I've already 'dismissed' as too harsh.
So, yes, I'm looking forward to trying a 1.8Ω atty. Living dangerously.
Lol. Well glad you found some that work for you.
I have taken two apart now.. and they're both back into production. One (an R2) had the coil off to the side and you could clearly see the lower air passage in the coil pot. The other one (R1) had the coil dead-center in the pot. That's the one that I moved.
Regarding silica rope or "appropriate" wicking material. If you have any of the E2 cartomizers around, then you have a ready supply of "burn resistant" wicking material. If not, you can pick up silica rope from McMaster (McMaster-Carr) on-line. I got about a foot of their 3/8" woven/stranded silica rope. That should be enough wicking material for about.. oh.. I dunno.... 300 years or so!
I've read most of this thread and I really haven't seen many users of the ego 2.5 mega atty users switching to these. It seems they are much more of a hassle to fill and you have to refill twice as often. It is very simple to refill a cart every few hours so I think I will wait until they come out with at least a 2 mil version.
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Thanks Kent C.. So I pulled out that center piece and the wick accidentally fell out of the hole. That was a pain in the ...., and the metal material binding it together fell apart. So I took a piece of foil and wrapped the wick back up with it and was able to get it back up into the hole and get the atomizer back together. It works and all, so I'm happy I didn't screw up my only ego-t atty. I'm still worried that the liquid in my tank may be filling into the atty a little too quick, but it may just be the nature of the beast. I've definitely read some other people's posts regarding going through liquid quickly.
Scottbee or anyone that knows atomizers,
Please help me.
I'm an eGo noob but I'm coming from 2 months of KR808 blank filling and 5 days dripping in Joye 510 Atomizer on adapted 5V KR808 USB passthru.
1) I've had my new V2 eGoTs for 2 days. Blew out primer. Ran at least 10 tanks through each. Both are behaving about the same.
2) Huge vapor and little flavor. Seemed to be always flooded and occasionally leaked if I was dragging too fast and too often. Tanks were emptying lightning fast. Even stuck it on my 5V USB passthru on 2mp wall adapter and no increase in flavor. Only did it for a minute or two to test.
3) Tried Sense's push it down a tiny bit. No improvement on either, seem to be flooding a little more. Atomizer 2 was actually leaking out after it got to 1/4 tank.
4) After reading this thread many times, I rinsed Atomizer 1 under hot water, blew it out both directions, spun it in a Kr808 rubber tip lanyard from both directions, dry burned about 12 times for 6 seconds, never really saw any orange glow under there even in the dark. No smoke.
5)Loaded 3/4 of tank w/ BWB Casablanca and I was getting tighter drags, much more and decent flavor, but burning at the end of a 7 second hit almost every drag. If I no-battery dragged I could get the juice flowing for only one 7 second drag and a 1/2 before burning taste. Tank lasted a long time.
6) Vaped that tank and another 3/4 BWB Waffle since I was so thrilled for flavor, but the frustration of burning got the better of me.
7) I pushed the wick down again a tad, loaded another tank and it was back to full clouds of vapor, little or no flavor, and even leakier. Sucked some up the mouth piece at one point.
8) I read the thread again, read your bit, took out my surgical clamp, and yanked the needle plate.
Results in photos below and in my profile photo album. No problem seeing the orange glow now.
Please what can I do to fix this? Is there something I can do to Atomizer 2 without ripping it apart? Where does all the freakin juice go when it empties out of the tank so fast? Under or to the side of atomizer? Does flooding cause no flavor? No gunk whatsoever on the coils and it never stops making vapor.
I'd love to save Atomizer 1 but I have a virgin one in reserve. So any hints on what not to do next time would also be appreciated.
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Please help me.
I'm an eGo noob but I'm coming from 2 months of KR808 blank filling and 5 days dripping in Joye 510 Atomizer on adapted 5V KR808 USB passthru.
1) I've had my new V2 eGoTs for 2 days. Blew out primer. Ran at least 10 tanks through each. Both are behaving about the same.
2) Huge vapor and little flavor. Seemed to be always flooded and occasionally leaked if I was dragging too fast and too often. Tanks were emptying lightning fast. Even stuck it on my 5V USB passthru on 2mp wall adapter and no increase in flavor. Only did it for a minute or two to test.
3) Tried Sense's push it down a tiny bit. No improvement on either, seem to be flooding a little more. Atomizer 2 was actually leaking out after it got to 1/4 tank.
4) After reading this thread many times, I rinsed Atomizer 1 under hot water, blew it out both directions, spun it in a Kr808 rubber tip lanyard from both directions, dry burned about 12 times for 6 seconds, never really saw any orange glow under there even in the dark. No smoke.
5)Loaded 3/4 of tank w/ BWB Casablanca and I was getting tighter drags, much more and decent flavor, but burning at the end of a 7 second hit almost every drag. If I no-battery dragged I could get the juice flowing for only one 7 second drag and a 1/2 before burning taste. Tank lasted a long time.
6) Vaped that tank and another 3/4 BWB Waffle since I was so thrilled for flavor, but the frustration of burning got the better of me.
7) I pushed the wick down again a tad, loaded another tank and it was back to full clouds of vapor, little or no flavor, and even leakier. Sucked some up the mouth piece at one point.
8) I read the thread again, read your bit, took out my surgical clamp, and yanked the needle plate.
Results in photos below and in my profile photo album. No problem seeing the orange glow now.
Please what can I do to fix this? Is there something I can do to Atomizer 2 without ripping it apart? Where does all the freakin juice go when it empties out of the tank so fast? Under or to the side of atomizer? Does flooding cause no flavor? No gunk whatsoever on the coils and it never stops making vapor.
I'd love to save Atomizer 1 but I have a virgin one in reserve. So any hints on what not to do next time would also be appreciated.
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So while I have my eGo-T feeder plate off, I decided to do some dripping. I have learned
1) Lack of flavor and clouds of vapor are the same. So flooding is not the issue.
2) More than two drops along the side leaks out the battery hole.
3) Strong Mint flavor from unsteeped Chocloate Mint Vaperite e-juice has flavor.
My conclusions so far: Tank wick must be dropping exactly what it needs if I am getting good vapor and no leaks. I should have left it alone. Amazing technology from that needle wick really. I can't believe it works so well. I guess I was vaping all that juice after all.
Either the eGo-T system is for very strong flavors only, the atomizer takes a long time to break in before flavors come out, air flow is too great, or it needs more power.
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Maybe there is some coating on it or it needs more grime, but it looks pretty clean to me.
1) Lack of flavor and clouds of vapor are the same. So flooding is not the issue.
2) More than two drops along the side leaks out the battery hole.
3) Strong Mint flavor from unsteeped Chocloate Mint Vaperite e-juice has flavor.
My conclusions so far: Tank wick must be dropping exactly what it needs if I am getting good vapor and no leaks. I should have left it alone. Amazing technology from that needle wick really. I can't believe it works so well. I guess I was vaping all that juice after all.
Either the eGo-T system is for very strong flavors only, the atomizer takes a long time to break in before flavors come out, air flow is too great, or it needs more power.
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Maybe there is some coating on it or it needs more grime, but it looks pretty clean to me.
Still waiting for the postman to bring my Tank.
For those who are comparing the Joye cylinder with the tank, I'm looking at a 3ml bottle and my Monster cylinder atty, I'm convinced that the 2.5ml juice rating is the capacity of the empty cart with no filler inserted. I use a full length, but loose fit polyfill plug in it. I think the actual capacity of the cylinder is more like 1ml with the polyfill, more with a BFD mod. The tank should hold slightly more juice than the cylinder atty unless you use a short plug.
I also get slight leakage from thin juices if I completely fill the Cylinder and put it in my inner jacket pocket where body heat can warm it slightly. Thermal expansion is most likely the culprit.
The Tank looks like a good design with the right mod. I wonder if a sort of mesh plug might fix the flooding and the dry atty syndrome. A thin disc of bridge type metal mesh in the opening of the piercing tube might work to allow juice to penetrate without providing an open "daylight" leakage path if the wick is not spread to fill the tube.
Thoughts? It looks like feast or famine depending on what you do with the wicking
For those who are comparing the Joye cylinder with the tank, I'm looking at a 3ml bottle and my Monster cylinder atty, I'm convinced that the 2.5ml juice rating is the capacity of the empty cart with no filler inserted. I use a full length, but loose fit polyfill plug in it. I think the actual capacity of the cylinder is more like 1ml with the polyfill, more with a BFD mod. The tank should hold slightly more juice than the cylinder atty unless you use a short plug.
I also get slight leakage from thin juices if I completely fill the Cylinder and put it in my inner jacket pocket where body heat can warm it slightly. Thermal expansion is most likely the culprit.
The Tank looks like a good design with the right mod. I wonder if a sort of mesh plug might fix the flooding and the dry atty syndrome. A thin disc of bridge type metal mesh in the opening of the piercing tube might work to allow juice to penetrate without providing an open "daylight" leakage path if the wick is not spread to fill the tube.
Thoughts? It looks like feast or famine depending on what you do with the wicking
Wow. 9 loops in that coil. Could the coil experts say if that might be causing the lack of flavour. I think I read on the 'Raidy' thread that if the loops weren't just right there was a chance of going from great vapour/little taste to great taste/little vapour and the trick was to get the compromise of both. Does that have any bearing on this type of wick/coil/airflow/battery system?
I find that some of my flavours are much better on 3.2v and others on 3.7v in my tank system. I am only using one tank (out of the three I purchased), and rotating flavours every few tankfulls. I also find some flavours respond better in the CE2 or Clearomizer.
I mix and match until I get a result I'm happy with. At the moment my Apple & Raspberry is great in the Tank with the VGO battery, but less so with the eGo battery. My Menthol & Choc Mint is great in a 2.8ohm CE2 with a eGo battery. Then again the newest flavour I have Watermelon with a little Candy Floss (and a dash of Raspberry for colour) really shines in the 2.4ohm Clearomizer with a eGo battery. It was good in the eGo-Tank but unbelievably good in the Clearomizer.
I use all three in rotation when I go for a vape, having a few drags on each before moving on to the next. I've even found that the order I have them makes a difference (1st Menthol, 2nd Apple, 3rd Watermelon --- repeat).
I am loathe to say this next bit, but I find it true for me. Here goes. I find that I get a much stronger flavour (taste) depending on how and where I place my PV in my mouth for different flavours.
So far I've found that Apple flavours and Raspberry flavours are increased (dramatically) by placing the PV into the left(ish) corner of my mouth dragging in the vapour (cigarette style ) towards the centre whilst keeping my tongue raised a little. The flavour really hits under the tongue.
The watermelon on the other hand tastes best drawing it straight down the middle with the tongue down. The taste seems to hit both sides of the tongue, but that may also have something to do with the added candy floss flavour.
The Menthol & Choc Mint is so strong that I think if a dragged on it through my ears it would still be fine, but I do tend to keep it away from the left side of my mouth so I don't numb the tastebuds to the more subtle flavours.
Could be all baloney of course, as I am as my GP says - a baffling mixture of contradictions.
Would like to know if anyone else tries this and is game enough to post their results. Don't worry I won't be offended.
I find that some of my flavours are much better on 3.2v and others on 3.7v in my tank system. I am only using one tank (out of the three I purchased), and rotating flavours every few tankfulls. I also find some flavours respond better in the CE2 or Clearomizer.
I mix and match until I get a result I'm happy with. At the moment my Apple & Raspberry is great in the Tank with the VGO battery, but less so with the eGo battery. My Menthol & Choc Mint is great in a 2.8ohm CE2 with a eGo battery. Then again the newest flavour I have Watermelon with a little Candy Floss (and a dash of Raspberry for colour) really shines in the 2.4ohm Clearomizer with a eGo battery. It was good in the eGo-Tank but unbelievably good in the Clearomizer.
I use all three in rotation when I go for a vape, having a few drags on each before moving on to the next. I've even found that the order I have them makes a difference (1st Menthol, 2nd Apple, 3rd Watermelon --- repeat).
I am loathe to say this next bit, but I find it true for me. Here goes. I find that I get a much stronger flavour (taste) depending on how and where I place my PV in my mouth for different flavours.
So far I've found that Apple flavours and Raspberry flavours are increased (dramatically) by placing the PV into the left(ish) corner of my mouth dragging in the vapour (cigarette style ) towards the centre whilst keeping my tongue raised a little. The flavour really hits under the tongue.
The watermelon on the other hand tastes best drawing it straight down the middle with the tongue down. The taste seems to hit both sides of the tongue, but that may also have something to do with the added candy floss flavour.
The Menthol & Choc Mint is so strong that I think if a dragged on it through my ears it would still be fine, but I do tend to keep it away from the left side of my mouth so I don't numb the tastebuds to the more subtle flavours.
Could be all baloney of course, as I am as my GP says - a baffling mixture of contradictions.
Would like to know if anyone else tries this and is game enough to post their results. Don't worry I won't be offended.
I sure hope someone can help me......I got my Volcano T system yesterday in the mail and was too late to contact Volcano to ask this question so I was wondering if anyone here has had this same issue? I am getting a burnt taste just after a short drag....at first the drag is perfect then within literally seconds it has that rough harsh throat hit as it the atty is burning. I have made sure it is assembled correctly....the membrane to the tank if fully pierced.....it is aligned correctly, meaning the tank is aligned to the silver plate in the atty.......have tried a variety of juice mixes of pg and vg to see if that made a difference and it does not......I know it will be great if I can get this issue fixed because the first few seconds of the drag is wonderful until the burnt part kicks in. Any suggestions?????
** Have you made sure the tank has been pushed down all the way. It will feel like a slight click for the last 16th of an inch.
** If you have more than one tank, try another. I have one which for some reason isn't quite up to scratch, yet to me it looks the same as the others.
** Have you done a few drags without the battery operating prior to and between puffs. It shouldn't really be necessary but can make a difference.
** Did you fill your tank completely or leave bout 1/4" at the top. It's good to leave a little room at the top for breathing. Try emptying to only half or third full and try it out that way too.
** Did you remove the 'CHAD', the small flap pushed up when the spike penetrates the tanks' lid. Some people do that - VERY CAREFULLY. I just turn the tank a full 720 to make sure it's fully open.
All I can think of at the moment but I'm sure someone else will help you. Good luck.
** If you have more than one tank, try another. I have one which for some reason isn't quite up to scratch, yet to me it looks the same as the others.
** Have you done a few drags without the battery operating prior to and between puffs. It shouldn't really be necessary but can make a difference.
** Did you fill your tank completely or leave bout 1/4" at the top. It's good to leave a little room at the top for breathing. Try emptying to only half or third full and try it out that way too.
** Did you remove the 'CHAD', the small flap pushed up when the spike penetrates the tanks' lid. Some people do that - VERY CAREFULLY. I just turn the tank a full 720 to make sure it's fully open.
All I can think of at the moment but I'm sure someone else will help you. Good luck.
WOW......Thank you VERY much arjy55, I tried all of your suggestions...new tank with only half full of juice, did several complete turns after making sure it was completely pushed in , then took several drags before using battery and VIOLA It is WORKING.......I cannot thank you enough!!!!!!!! I knew it would be fabulous if I could get it to work. Thanks again !!!!!!!
Great looking tinker job. Keep us posted how it's working. I may try this on my atty thats not wicking so well
Hubby and I got our new tanks in on Friday and are loving them. He was doing the drip method exclusively but is now using the tank system exclusively. I'm loving the fact that I no longer have to constantly refill cartridges or mess with polyfill any longer. Flavors are fresh tasting the whole time now without any of that dry burnt taste that one gets when the polyfill in a cartridge starts to get a little dry. So far we've had no problems with leaking either.
ARGSSSS.. forgot to charge my battery last night... using my 510 PT with carts... ugh this sucks! LOL I have GOT to get my other batt back from the boss!
OK, I'm done with these tanks. You can't alter the laws of physics. These tanks are super consistent in the way that they don't flow from full to 2/3, flow well from 2/3 to 1/3, and flood the atty from 1/3 to empty. Wick characteristics and juice viscosity will just shift that curve up or down, but you still have that curve. It's all about the air/juice ratio in the tank. I'm tired of cleaning the battery, my hands, and wasting so much juice.
OMG fuzznut....I have not had any problem with flooding yet....hope I dont because that is one thing I cannot stand is ejuice on my hands!! So far so good and since I got it to working right I have been vaping alot.
I have been reading alot since I was having the burning atty issue....and I seen where one member took a needle,and "fluffed" up the wick inside the atty....the small cylinder that pierces the membrane.......now I did not try that cause I have no leakage issue but if mine starts to leak you can bet I will try it. If you do try it just be careful he said and do it gentle. He said it stopped his leakage problem.....so maybe there is still hope for yours.
Okay I'm addressing my leak problem. I am still using Johnson's Creek Juice as I don't have anything else.
Okay... I was leaking no mater what the tank level was so I grabbed a needle nose and popped out the plate thing. I wanted to point this out for folks on the Joye atty its platsic... The needle nose I grabbed didn't fit properly down into the atty and I gripped on the point. I managed to break a small piece off the the point. Its off to the side, So I think I wont have trouble knocking off the chad. I have nails to knock it off the fresh blank tanks otherwise. I've actually pulled up the wick so that it was flush with the bottom of the point... Meaning the bottom of the hole in the point. I will be playing with it on and off to day if it isn't leaking. I have it set on a plastic lid with a 3/4 full tank right now with out battery to see if it leaks by gravity like it did the first time. I pulled it up further as I can always push it down towards the coil if need be. After viewing all of the videos and the looking at the atty itself, I may have a leak between the tank and the atty point. I had a large amount of juice on the plate, time will tell.
Be careful taking out the plate.
Okay... I was leaking no mater what the tank level was so I grabbed a needle nose and popped out the plate thing. I wanted to point this out for folks on the Joye atty its platsic... The needle nose I grabbed didn't fit properly down into the atty and I gripped on the point. I managed to break a small piece off the the point. Its off to the side, So I think I wont have trouble knocking off the chad. I have nails to knock it off the fresh blank tanks otherwise. I've actually pulled up the wick so that it was flush with the bottom of the point... Meaning the bottom of the hole in the point. I will be playing with it on and off to day if it isn't leaking. I have it set on a plastic lid with a 3/4 full tank right now with out battery to see if it leaks by gravity like it did the first time. I pulled it up further as I can always push it down towards the coil if need be. After viewing all of the videos and the looking at the atty itself, I may have a leak between the tank and the atty point. I had a large amount of juice on the plate, time will tell.
Be careful taking out the plate.
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